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Old 05-30-2013, 10:45 PM   #1
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Hello all, I just purchased my 2000 TJ SE. It did not come with factory side steps. I just found the steps on craigslist and bought them. I notice that the steps have the holes on the brackets so the bolt can go through. The frame also has holes.
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Should I get the welded on, or can I get the studs that go in the frame and some how get them in the frame and put the on as if they came from the factory?? or should I get the studs welded on to the frame??

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Old 05-30-2013, 10:54 PM   #2
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I would find the bolts if i were you. Welding those on sounds solid but its kind of a permenant thing and you may think you want them forever but come a few years or even months when you find some nice rock sliders or decide you dont like the look anymore, youll definately want the option of removing

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Old 05-31-2013, 03:45 AM   #3
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You can get nutserts that fit in the frame and then you can bolt on the steps. I got my nutserts and bolts from Fastenal.
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:39 PM   #4
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I just put factory steps on my LJ in Jan so my daughters could climb in and out and I searched everywhere for the m shaped bolts. No luck had to go the nutsert route. Good luck
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:01 AM   #5
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I found some nutserts and bolts from jeepsareus. for the entire set it ran about $90 (ouch) are they really that expensive?? nutserts about $4 each and the bolt about $2 earch. for the set of 14 for both sides $90
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:03 AM   #6
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how solid are these nutserts?? I bought them for the kids. I'm about 200 lbs. can they hold me if I step on them? I was told that these nutserts are actually what mopar uses.
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:27 AM   #7
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You dont want to put nutserts in your frame to hold on steps. For one they dont have a huge shoulder on them, 2.. The if your bolting up steps/ sliders to your frame using bolts and nutserts you have a huge lever exerting a huge amount of pressure on eight 1/2 inch holes. If your going with sliders or steps that attach to the frame and plan on any sort of pressure on them the welded on is the only ticket
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:37 AM   #8
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I didn't have any issues with using nutserts , I weigh about 230 and the steps hold me with no problems. I can't see the reason to weld them on when they come from the factory bolted on and using a type of nutsert.
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:42 AM   #9
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I didn't have any issues with using nutserts , I weigh about 230 and the steps hold me with no problems. I can't see the reason to weld them on when they come from the factory bolted on and using a type of nutsert.
From your pics it looks like you have sliders that are nut serted through the body not the frame
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:49 AM   #10
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From your pics it looks like you have sliders that are nut serted through the body not the frame
That's bedliner not sliders, I didn't have the steps installed yet.
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That's bedliner not sliders, I didn't have the steps installed yet.
Are they bolted to the frame???
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You dont want to put nutserts in your frame to hold on steps. For one they dont have a huge shoulder on them, 2.. The if your bolting up steps/ sliders to your frame using bolts and nutserts you have a huge lever exerting a huge amount of pressure on eight 1/2 inch holes. If your going with sliders or steps that attach to the frame and plan on any sort of pressure on them the welded on is the only ticket
Stock they are attached with nutserts. The steps' brackets have 'supports' that push against the frame with any force applied by stepping on them. The factory bolts that hold them are tiny and won't hold any kind of force. They are just designed to keep the steps attached. Nutserts are perfect for this.
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Old 06-01-2013, 05:03 AM   #13
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Are they bolted to the frame???
The steps are bolted to the frame !!!!
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I was searching for the same thing when I came across a very helpful fellow on Ebay. I hope this helps.

"According to Mopar all you need then is 8 rivnuts and 8 bolts to mount the side steps. I can put a kit together but it would cost you $50. You can probably find the same thing at a hardware store or NAPA a lot cheaper. The size of the bolt is M8 x 1.25 x 25.00 so you just need 8 of those and then get rivnuts for that size bolt that also fit in the hole on the frame."

- abernethymotors
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:57 PM   #15
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I hated the OEM side steps on my YJ, all they did was get the back of my pant legs dirty when getting put and makes it weird to get in if you try to step on them when entering. I guess after driving all these years I enter the drivers seat with my right leg first but if you want to use the step you have to use your left leg first on the step and my brain could never figure that out. So NO side steps onmy TJ and my brain is happy.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:45 PM   #16
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Well Finally I put the side steps on. If I had to rate the nutserts, I would give them a 0 on a scale from 1-10. They did not hold up at all. I salvaged what I could and threw away the other ones. I basically used a coat hanger, a string, some tape, and 7/16 bolts. It took me a few hours, but after I got the hang of it, It took me less time.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:46 PM   #17
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My wife and kids were worth the extra time and effort it took me to do it this way.

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