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Old 03-26-2009, 09:22 AM   #1
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Simple Question, I hope

Hey guys,

I am new to the forum, and Jeep scene. Always had Toyotas, so this is still pretty new for me.

I just bought an 01 Wrangler. One of the reasons I chose the one I did was because I was just too drawn to the Rubicon wheels that it had on it. They are mounted up with 245/75x16 (31"ish) Goodyears.

Sitting beside other TJ's, it just looks a little higher than the others. How can I tell if it has been lifted? I need to replace all 4 shocks, but hesistate to do so until I find out what size I need. The shocks that are on it.. look OEM to me, but who knows. The shock boots are pretty much rusted off, so I assume they are OEM.

With a mild lift, I assume that there is something I can look for to see if it is truly is lifted, correct? Spacers somewhere possibly?

Thanks in advance.. great forum. I came here often when contemplating the purchase.

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Old 03-26-2009, 09:29 AM   #2
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Here is a pic...if that helps.


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Old 03-26-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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It could have a 2" budget boost. Look for spacers on the coils. Hopefully, it is not just a body lift. If you have space between the frame and the tub, it could be that.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:50 AM   #4
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The spacers would be on the top of the coils, correct?

Let me post some pix of hte underside.

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Old 03-26-2009, 09:53 AM   #5
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pics of suspension and coils and shocks will help
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:16 AM   #6
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I will get the pix in a little bit. Just glancing at it though, everything looks bone stock.

Here is a pic of the whole rig. Look lifted to you guys?

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Old 03-26-2009, 11:37 AM   #7
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Here are some pix of the coils as well as the body mounts...










I can't see any traces of any kind of lift. Anyone here?
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:44 AM   #8
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I see no lift at all.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:05 PM   #9
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The suspension looks completely stock to me... no spring spacer there at all.

The body lift spacer in the third photo is troubling me... it appears to be missing the rubber isolator that should be between the frame mount and spacer.

I don't have my TJ here at work to confirm it but IIRC, it should look like this...



That isn't causing a major problem but the way it is mounted now, you're picking up additional vibrations that are being passed through the spacer into the passenger compartment.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:06 PM   #10
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I dont see anything. Do your tires rub at all?
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:19 PM   #11
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Tires do not rub, although I have not done anything as of yet that would put them in that position.

So is it my imagination that it looks a bit taller than other stock TJs, or could that be attributed to tire size?

Thanks guys for confirming what I suspected.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:21 PM   #12
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Moderators, can you please delete my earlier post #9 above? Dang you don't give much time to edit posts do you!

The suspension looks completely stock to me... no spring spacer there at all.

The body lift spacer in the third photo is troubling me... it appears to be installed incorrectly, it is missing the rubber isolator that should be between the frame mount and 1" spacer.

I don't have my TJ here at work to confirm it but with that spacer the OP's TJ has installed, it should look like this if I recall correctly.



Stock without a body lift, the body mounts will look like the below photo...



That isn't causing a major problem but the way it is mounted now, you're picking up additional vibrations that are being passed through the spacer into the passenger compartment.
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His body mounts look like mine. Could it possibly be Rubi Springs, aren't they just a little taller?
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:31 PM   #14
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That is a good point, I never thought about the springs. So how does that translate into shock selection?

I intend to replace all of the body mounts with Poly ones, although I do not want any kind of a body lift. Are these what I am looking for?

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Ignore the ads and hype for poly body mounts, the ads are very misleading. Rubber body mounts outlast most Jeeps and all polyurethane mounts do is increase the noise and vibration levels inside the Jeep because of their much harder composition. The LAST thing I would install onto my TJ would be polyurethane body mounts. Plus polyurethane tends to squeek which can drive you crazy. There are special lubricants to help minimize that but you have to keep re-applying them on a regular basis.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:56 PM   #16
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uhm the body mounts looks like what mine did before i added my bl

and if you get new shocks.. id go with some OME or RE monotubes designed for 1-2'' of lift, heck you could also get cheap 1'' bb spacers for the coils off ebay for like 30-40 bucks for the 4 of them.. i paid 30 shipped a year ago i believe..
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:29 PM   #17
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So, if I gamble and go for shocks designed for a mild lift.. and there is actually NO lift, what are the possible effects?

So.. no need to replace the body mounts? The jury concludes that they are stock?

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