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Old 03-07-2012, 08:16 AM   #1
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Skid Compatibility for "Hybrid" Jeep? (& advice?)

I'm guessing this may be a question for the manufacturers because the answers are likely to vary depending on design, but I thought I'd post here first.

I have a 2001 Wrangler with the automatic 4 speed tranny from a 2004 Wrangler. Since the majority of engine & oil pan skids are spec'd for "97 - 01" OR "03 - 06", I'm not sure which route to take. Which item tends to determine compatibility? Is it the tranny or the chassis/motor? I'm guessing the tranny, but I don't know if there may have been additional changes to affect fitment between the 03+ and the 97 - 01.

Specifically, I'm looking at the Rokmen Up Armor skid, or the UCF Aluminum skid. While I'd love to consider the Savvy kit... I'm willing to pay for quality, but in this case the price is so much higher that it is not on my radar.

I am leaning toward the UCF due to price and weight. the UCF is aluminum, so I am assuming it is significantly lighter, but I can't find specific weights for either of these skids. I am not building a hardcore rock crawler. Just bolting on some "insurance". But I am certainly open to advice... there are several engine skid threads, but please feel free to post your opinions. Thanks!

Edit: Doh! Just saw the UCF weight on their website... only 27 lbs!

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I'm guessing this may be a question for the manufacturers because the answers are likely to vary depending on design, but I thought I'd post here first.

I have a 2001 Wrangler with the automatic 4 speed tranny from a 2004 Wrangler. Since the majority of engine & oil pan skids are spec'd for "97 - 01" OR "03 - 06", I'm not sure which route to take. Which item tends to determine compatibility? Is it the tranny or the chassis/motor? I'm guessing the tranny, but I don't know if there may have been additional changes to affect fitment between the 03+ and the 97 - 01.

Specifically, I'm looking at the Rokmen Up Armor skid, or the UCF Aluminum skid. While I'd love to consider the Savvy kit... I'm willing to pay for quality, but in this case the price is so much higher that it is not on my radar.

I am leaning toward the UCF due to price and weight. the UCF is aluminum, so I am assuming it is significantly lighter, but I can't find specific weights for either of these skids. I am not building a hardcore rock crawler. Just bolting on some "insurance". But I am certainly open to advice... there are several engine skid threads, but please feel free to post your opinions. Thanks!

Edit: Doh! Just saw the UCF weight on their website... only 27 lbs!
Personally, I'd call up whichever manufacture you decide to go with and ask them. They should be able to tell you exactly which pieces to get and it will be much easier then everyone speculating what the issue would be. I don't see you having any problems getting any of your choices to work, it might just take a call or two in order to get everything straightened out. I've talked with both Rokmen and UCF before and they're both great people to work with.

As for the Savvy price, I can tell you from experience that if you configure the UCF system to come with everything the Savvy UA does, the prices are pretty much the same. If you're just buying the engine skid then the UCF system is definitely cheaper, but that's only because you can't get just the engine skid with the Savvy system. In the long run if you plan on doing the entire tummy tuck, the Savvy UA ended up being cheaper for me after factoring in everything needed and the forum discount.

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Old 03-07-2012, 10:18 AM   #3
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As for the Savvy price, I can tell you from experience that if you configure the UCF system to come with everything the Savvy UA does, the prices are pretty much the same. If you're just buying the engine skid then the UCF system is definitely cheaper, but that's only because you can't get just the engine skid with the Savvy system. In the long run if you plan on doing the entire tummy tuck, the Savvy UA ended up being cheaper for me after factoring in everything needed and the forum discount.


You are correct sir. Thank you for pointing that out!! I thought I might be missing something... This just got a lot more complex. I absolutely do have a tummy tuck in mind, so I think it's time for me to do some serious planning before I pull the trigger on anything in that area.

Do you have a build thread documenting your tuck/install of the Savvy UA? I'm not thrilled with the idea of adding another inch+ of lift, and a MML is a pain. But from what I've read, it looks like a body lift may not be "optional" for 2003+ autos... Either do the body lift or I'll get no "tuck" at all.

In the meantime, I think I'll order a steering box skid to satisfy my need for immediate gratification!
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:24 AM   #4
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What is the transmission/transfer case mounted on now? A stock '97-'02 skid? That should answer your question...
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No build thread, I need to get around to that one of these days. But, I would be happy to answer any questions you might have and take pictures if needed.

The body lift is really just for clearance between the transmission/t-case and the body. You may be able to get away without it, but it is a tight fit. With some dimpling in the right places you might be able to make it work, but it would be a trial and error situation. I was in the same mindset as you, but after seeing the benefits with the tummy tuck and being able to also tuck the gas tank skid up higher, I just did the body lift.

It certainly is a lot to think about. I ended up waiting much longer than I wanted to so that I could plan and save, but in the end it was definitely worth it.
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What is the transmission/transfer case mounted on now? A stock '97-'02 skid? That should answer your question...
Good question! I had not thought of that. Is the stock 03+ transfer case skid different from the 97 - 02? How can I tell the difference?

I believe I will plan on the body lift... This has implications for nearly all my future upgrade plans! I'll take your advice... plan, save, wait (gag)...
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Is the stock 03+ transfer case skid different from the 97 - 02? How can I tell the difference?
The difference lies within the Jeep's frame and hole placement for mounting the skid.

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