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Old 03-18-2014, 02:47 PM   #1
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slow driver manual transmission

So been driving an automatic sedan for 25 years. Got the itch for something new, and bought a TJ. Love it - of course the best deal was for a standard/manual transmission. Never knew how to drive one, but had friends willing to teach me so I bought it. Its been a month now and still having problems with my shifting skills. Main issue is, I feel like everyone and their grandma is passing me while I go from standing still to 2nd gear. It takes forever for me to shift from stopping to 1st without it dying, then I can only go like 5mph in 1st before I'm past 2000 RPMs and needing to shift to 2nd, but by then I'm getting all the dirty looks while impatient people behind me give me the bird.

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Keep practicing, and make sure you take your left foot off the clutch between shifts (don't ride it). Before long, you'll be a pro. Find a back road or big parking lot and practice....Don't worry about people behind you, just let them deal with it.

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Old 03-18-2014, 03:12 PM   #3
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What he said ^ I can get the jump on most people with my 5 speed. Also note that the engine hardly makes any power below 2000rpm, so it certainly won't be fast. My first gear is super short thanks to my 4.56 gears so I usually shift into 2nd around 2k or so, then second climbs through 2500 or so if I'm not in a hurry.
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You can go up to 3k in 1st. the revs wont hurt it. Also to start out in second gear just rev it more as you let the clutch out a bit slower. The jeep wont mind to go over 2k RPM. Just be smooth on the clutch. Also dont drive around with you foot on the clutch pedal. When not using the clutch remove foot completly.

If you can time the lights so that you dont have to come to a complete stop it will make taking off in 2nd much easier.

Your sig says 33" tires. If you are running stock gears then you could look into getting the gears changed to match the tire size.

Jeeps with lift and tires are not the best to learn stick on. So you need to simply fill up and go out in the country and play around with taking off in 1st and taking off in second and at different speeds. The clutch and gears will come to you with time.
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My first gear is super short thanks to my 4.56 gears so I usually shift into 2nd around 2k or so, then second climbs through 2500 or so if I'm not in a hurry.
We're in the same boat, I'm shifting to 2nd half way across the intersection, and cruising through parking lots in 2nd.
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Old 03-18-2014, 03:21 PM   #6
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When you 1st start driving stick you think OMG cause you feel the power and the surge. The jeep wont mind going over 2k. Once you get good and smooth 3k will seem like 2k. You could ride with me and never feel a gear change if i didnt want you to. Stick is all about time in the seat.
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Old 03-18-2014, 03:24 PM   #7
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I wouldn't be concerned about other drivers. People think they're slick by ripping it off the line and blasting it while I go through the gears. Except they -always- are at the next light waiting for it while I cruise past them.
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Thanks for all the tips/advice guys. Just frustrating not being good at something. Well, at least more practice means more time in the jeep. Love my TJ.
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trust me man your not the only one. i have 31s on a 4 banger with a 5 speed trans i know all about being slow off the line or pulling out of parking lots hahah. Just hang in their and maybe save up for a re gear if your running stock gearing.
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Yeah stock gearing here. Although going slow is helping me learn to drive standard a bit easier. Trying to look at the bright side!!
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:33 PM   #11
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Like others say, don't worry about the other drivers. They're free to take their driving to other roads if the don't like following you. Also, like said above, try starting out in second. It won't hurt it at all. Just get revs to about 2k and gently let out the clutch.
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Like others say, don't worry about the other drivers. They're free to take their driving to other roads if the don't like following you. Also, like said above, try starting out in second. It won't hurt it at all. Just get revs to about 2k and gently let out the clutch.
I'll try that. I was told its bad for your clutch and/or tranny and to never do that. Glad to know it's OK!! Thank you.
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Do like me and throw your comb away.
When the other drivers get a good look they'll forget all about how bad your driving.
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So been driving an automatic sedan for 25 years...Got a TJ...everyone and their grandma is passing me..Advice/help/strategies?
Did you try talking sweet to her?

Ive been driving manual transmissions for 12 years and you bought a jeep.. 0-60 is like 12 seconds.. Just quit worrying about who is behind you.. Take your time and enjoy the ride. I have noticed with many of my vehicles double clutching helps example 3rd shift to nuetral shift to 4th or 4th shift to nuetral rev ~2000 rpm then clutch and downshift.. Takes the wear off your syrncros.. If it wont go dont force it go to nuetral and try again.

Takes time every vehicle is different im still learning my tj and its subtle nuances after a year and all my cars are manuals..
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Did you try talking sweet to her?

Ive been driving manual transmissions for 12 years and you bought a jeep.. 0-60 is like 12 seconds.. Just quit worrying about who is behind you.. Take your time and enjoy the ride. I have noticed with many of my vehicles double clutching helps example 3rd shift to nuetral shift to 4th or 4th shift to nuetral rev ~2000 rpm then clutch and downshift.. Takes the wear off your syrncros.. If it wont go dont force it go to nuetral and try again.

Takes time every vehicle is different im still learning my tj and its subtle nuances after a year and all my cars are manuals..
Good to know...Will try that too. Thanks!
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I feel your pain...it's always funny when people swerve around me to pass me when starting out but once I hit like third gear I am going faster than them! Like everyone else said, don't worry about the super impatient people.
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Some punk in a sedan with a trash bag window honked at me and flew around today. Showed off his mad driving skills along with his awesome vehicle maintenance skills.
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I'm in the UK where manual transmission (stick shift) is the norm & not the exception. Remember that your in a Jeep not a racer, Jeeps do what they do very well, they're not fast but they will go any where with style. Use first to just get rolling and change up as soon as you're moving. The art of "double de clutch" was needed before gearboxes had synchromesh, now they were fun to drive, and is not necessary when using a modern synchro box (it does sound good though). As for other drivers getting frustrated & wanting to rush just remember you're in a Jeep and enjoy being in a Jeep! You ain't going to win a drag race but do you care? You're in a jeep! That's COOL!
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Exactly. I was heading home with my son enjoying the radio. Then some d bag with a trash bag window honks swerves around and flys by. (I was starting off from a red he was already moving from behind) I just thought. "Man that d bag must be in a hurry to get home and out of that pos car with a trash bag window!" I'm almost starting to enjoy it. Might get a vanity plate like "slo poke"
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I'm in the UK where manual transmission (stick shift) is the norm & not the exception. Remember that your in a Jeep not a racer, Jeeps do what they do very well, they're not fast but they will go any where with style. Use first to just get rolling and change up as soon as you're moving. The art of "double de clutch" was needed before gearboxes had synchromesh, now they were fun to drive, and is not necessary when using a modern synchro box (it does sound good though). As for other drivers getting frustrated & wanting to rush just remember you're in a Jeep and enjoy being in a Jeep! You ain't going to win a drag race but do you care? You're in a jeep! That's COOL!
Good advice. Thanks
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Exactly. I was heading home with my son enjoying the radio. Then some d bag with a trash bag window honks swerves around and flys by. (I was starting off from a red he was already moving from behind) I just thought. "Man that d bag must be in a hurry to get home and out of that pos car with a trash bag window!" I'm almost starting to enjoy it. Might get a vanity plate like "slo poke"
I want that plate too lol
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Take the top off and when they honk at you turn the stereo up louder. We didn't buy jeeps because we wanted a sports car.
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I learned how to drive stick in my first jeep. I always shift to second quick, right after I'm rolling. Like others have said, don't be afraid of the revs. Just don't redline it.
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Lol try 35's and 5.13's
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Take the top off and when they honk at you turn the stereo up louder. We didn't buy jeeps because we wanted a sports car.
Amen on that!
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Take the top off and when they honk at you turn the stereo up louder. We didn't buy jeeps because we wanted a sports car.
Lol. Awesome!!
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Lol try 35's and 5.13's
Wow can't imagine!
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Only go as fast as you feel comfortable. Don't worry about the guy behind you.

On the other hand if you do want to accelerate faster, don't be afraid to get the most out of each gear. That shift light is just a suggestion and is more for fuel efficiency than performance.
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I really don't care about the people behind me. They can get impatient and fly around me all they want. I got my rocks off this winter with all the snow we had here in Jersey. All those impatient want to go fast people trying to navigate thru a foot of snow with their rear or front wheel drive, those tires were just a-spinnin while I cruised by, I loved it.
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Only go as fast as you feel comfortable. Don't worry about the guy behind you.

On the other hand if you do want to accelerate faster, don't be afraid to get the most out of each gear. That shift light is just a suggestion and is more for fuel efficiency than performance.
good to know! That light is intimidating for me though, LOL

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