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Old 09-05-2013, 10:51 PM   #1
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Snorkel questions

So I'm strongly considering buying a snorkel, and for the TJ there are two options.

The River Raider (little pop out just before hood) River Raider Offroad SNK-2302 - River Raider Offroad Expedition Snorkel for 98-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec

Arb (typical snorkel) ARB SS1055HF - ARB Safari Snorkel for 99-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited with 4.0L - Quadratec

Has anyone on here installed the river raider? if so what are your thoughts on it?

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Old 09-05-2013, 10:53 PM   #2
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What is the snorkel for? Are you actually traversing water that is that deep?

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Old 09-05-2013, 11:01 PM   #3
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I have the ARB and it has saved my butt. Stream crossings where the nose dips in on entry plus crap I hot stuck in because I knew it was safe (although stupid) with it. It has a ram air effect on highway too. Had it 13 years and love it. It has came in handy more than my winch and installs the same confidence. If you like to explore they are great. If you like to follow guys down the beaten path you don't really need one but its still way better than a cold air intake.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:11 PM   #4
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Personally I like the one from River Raider. It's not as clunky as the ARB but to each his own. It's cheaper on their site.
http://www.riverraider.com/store/ind...product_id=190
I have no reason to believe I'll ever be in water deep enough to warrant spending the dough but I may eventually pick one up. I do like to be prepared for you know, tsunami's, spontaneous volcanic eruptions (like the movie where Pierce Brosnan drives over hot lava), and what not.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:15 PM   #5
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Hahaha Dante's peak reference! Lol he had a badass suburban!
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:17 PM   #6
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It for when your going downhill into a stream etc and your nose (where the stock intake is enters) then you level out but the damage was done. It's not for driving in water up to the windshield. But you can try and it don't hurt
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:19 PM   #7
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Better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it(if you got the money of course) I would like to get the ARB eventually
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I wonder how many new snorkel owners tested them by driving into deep water only to discover where else deep water can cause problems. Like the radiator fan slicing & dicing the radiator as it pulls itself into the radiator from being submerged. Or the transmission flooding, etc.

I'm no fan of snorkels, my guess is that 99.999% of them are only for show anyway.
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I wonder how many new snorkel owners tested them by driving into deep water only to discover where else deep water can cause problems. Like the radiator fan slicing & dicing the radiator as it pulls itself into the radiator from being submerged. Or the transmission flooding, etc.

I'm no fan of snorkels, my guess is that 99.999% of them are only for show anyway.
Haha mine before digital cameras unfortunately was stuck above the tires in water. Was just exploring trails around Ft Bragg when I was in the 82nd. Got pulled out snorkel saved me on entry for sure. I look up to your opinion like crazy Jerry. (Going with 4.56 instead of 4.11 when I go to 32 just because of you.) but on my random trails I find I no longer have to get out and probe the water for depth etc. it's a great tool. And I see your point that it looks sweet. Kinda like a guy wanting a cool street lift. Don't make since. But cheaper lol edit. My fan has hit water but no probs. think the clutch helps.
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I have gone through a couple very deep holes, and when i drive around my woods a lot of dust is kicked up from the vehicles in front of me. I don't feel like the river raider is too show-offy as it blends into the vehicle pretty well.
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Lol was out wheeling last weekend and had to set there with a branch and prob the crap outa a hole before I decided it was to deep lol
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Lol go on YouTube and type in hummer underwater and watch this crazy guy it's the first video that comes up(I know it's a hummer but at least it's an H1)
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I have gone through a couple very deep holes, and when i drive around my woods a lot of dust is kicked up from the vehicles in front of me. I don't feel like the river raider is too show-offy as it blends into the vehicle pretty well.
Not about showing off for me anyway. I go for function. I could have had a 4 inch lift for the same price as my 3 but I would be up higher and getting out to remove fallen trees more often and worrying about a rollover more often. If a snorkel suits your style of off roading rock one. I'm trying to keep low center of gravity and fit though long forgotten trails not crawl rocks. To each is own man. I say go for it!
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Agree^ I do get what Jerry's sayin tho I saw a pretty mean looking frontier the other day lifted and what not then to find out it was 2WD! Waste if you ask me just waste that's like having a corvette with a 4 banger lol
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Lol was out wheeling last weekend and had to set there with a branch and prob the crap outa a hole before I decided it was to deep lol
Lol if ya had a snorkel you probably be stuck in it lol. It's like a bullet proof vest. You just drive into it because it can't hurt you. All the more fun
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:53 PM   #16
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You really have a point there lol!, an that's why I bought the winch lol!
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I have gone through a couple very deep holes, and when i drive around my woods a lot of dust is kicked up from the vehicles in front of me. I don't feel like the river raider is too show-offy as it blends into the vehicle pretty well.
I agree man, if my ARB was cowl level near the windshield it would have saved me in all my situations. I don't mind the looks of mine though and it would boil down to cost for me. Not sure which ones cheaper as 13 years ago when I bought mine it was the only one I knew of. Uv wise it rocks. Very little fading after all the years. If you go with ARB you have to go to Home Depot and get a 20 dollar rivet gun and a 30 dollar hole saw drill bit for install so weigh that. Not sure what the river raider install requires.
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The River Raider is the way to go if you need one. I color matched one for a friend and helped him out with install. Very well thought out setup, and if your willing to put some extra work and color match it, it keeps that factory feel. 2 thumbs up for a great product.


Just remember that with the River Raider you can't fold the window down. Which may or may not be an issue. The ARB snorkel on the other hand isn't compatible with a lot of roof racks and lighting accessories that use the window pillar.
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:58 AM   #19
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Definitely go for the River Raider if you get one. Less likely to bang into crap.

And what JB said has some truth. The trans breather, typically the lowest one, is more than likely right on top of the housing. The diff breathers are at the top of the radiator and gas filler tubes and the t-case is roughly 3/4 the way up the firewall. So if you get the snorkel, just be aware that your jeep isn't water proof up to the snorkel, there's other things that can still get wet.

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