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Old 02-10-2009, 03:55 AM   #1
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So yesterday me and my girl decide that it would be nice to take a drive up to the crest of the local mountain. This is a paved road all the way to the top with a little viewing area.

While turning around in one of the bottom parking lots I get stuck...My pumpkins the skid plate nothing is buried in the snow but all four tires are spinning. I try the ol mats under the tires. 4 hi, 4 lo. Nothing.

I then decided that my wrangler has failed me completely and i need help. I hike up to the next parking lot and find a 2500 turbo cummins sitting there and he says no prob.

We take his truck down there and pull it up to the front of mine heep. hook up the tow cables.

Then he goes to shift into 4. Transfer case will not let him into 4 hi or lo. he goes to back out. nope. just a lot of black smoke and spinning tires.

By this time its dark and cold. Luckily my girlfriends parents have deep pockets and have her equiped her with AAA. Tow truck comes. Tow driver only brings enough chains for one of his tires and is an a$$hole (but by only bringing one chain proves that he is also a moron so his loss). He almost gets stuck but manages to get the truck and my jeep out.

Now for future mall crawling refernce what do i need to do to my jeep to make this stroke inducing experinece not happen again.

Im ridin a 98 sahara, d30, d35, 3.07, Bf goodrich a/t. rubisprings.

oh yea and i thought i was also lucky enough to break my transfer case in the process but just the light isnt working anymore on the dash. any ideas on why?

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Depends on depth of snow... was it melting & icy... on a slight hill... to many variables without seeing it. is the jeep auto or manual....

In that kindof situation you cant really just spin the tires, cause you basically make the snow turn to ice under them. If auto next time try 4lo and you lowest drive D1 or D2 if listed on the shifter.

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i wish i had an auto after driving my friends. Your probably right on the turning the snow into ice tho. It was fresh powder on top of some ice most likely
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Sand and a shovel
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honestly in ice when u get stuck simply getting out and pushing will move vehicle.. and swinging tires left to right while acceleratiing
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honestly in ice when u get stuck simply getting out and pushing will move vehicle.. and swinging tires left to right while acceleratiing
Yea bro that same tactic has always worked for me but this time idk why. I had my girl doing that while i was out pushing to no avail.

The sand and shovel tho will probably become a part of the "trail" kit. thanks for the idea.

and i thought a winch wouldve been handy but i didnt have anything near to winch to
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and i thought a winch wouldve been handy but i didnt have anything near to winch to


You just have to be creative. Some bushes and plants have massive roots than can help you out. Or that other truck parked out on clear pavement probably would have worked.
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A locker or 2? x2 on the winch.
Any pics of the fiasco?
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I'm frequently surprised when I can't get up a seasonal road with 6" or so of snow considering what these rigs are capable in other much more extreme situations
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So yesterday me and my girl decide that it would be nice to take a drive up to the crest of the local mountain. This is a paved road all the way to the top with a little viewing area.

While turning around in one of the bottom parking lots I get stuck...My pumpkins the skid plate nothing is buried in the snow but all four tires are spinning. I try the ol mats under the tires. 4 hi, 4 lo. Nothing.

I then decided that my wrangler has failed me completely and i need help. I hike up to the next parking lot and find a 2500 turbo cummins sitting there and he says no prob.

We take his truck down there and pull it up to the front of mine heep. hook up the tow cables.

Then he goes to shift into 4. Transfer case will not let him into 4 hi or lo. he goes to back out. nope. just a lot of black smoke and spinning tires.

By this time its dark and cold. Luckily my girlfriends parents have deep pockets and have her equiped her with AAA. Tow truck comes. Tow driver only brings enough chains for one of his tires and is an a$$hole (but by only bringing one chain proves that he is also a moron so his loss). He almost gets stuck but manages to get the truck and my jeep out.

Now for future mall crawling refernce what do i need to do to my jeep to make this stroke inducing experinece not happen again.

Im ridin a 98 sahara, d30, d35, 3.07, Bf goodrich a/t. rubisprings.

oh yea and i thought i was also lucky enough to break my transfer case in the process but just the light isnt working anymore on the dash. any ideas on why?
Did you try digging? I keep a shovel for that purpose.

I wish we were having more snow here in Colorado. Unfortunately, the Colorado snow reputation is not holding up.
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Shovel - I sunk my '04 down and had the same issue. Until I dug the snow out enough to actually let the wheels settle on the ground and not the packed snow, I just was spinning like you. Shovel my friend, shovel.
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Cable chains and better tires.
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and better tires.
Might wanna be more specific on which tires as the bfg at are considered to be one of the best if not the.

I wish i had brought my camera tho it was supposed to be just a sunday drive not a mall crawling adventure!!!

Shovel next time for sure. but i dont know if lockers would've helped because all four of my tires were spinning not just one in the front and one in the back like i thought they were gonna.

I really didnt wanna add a winch to my build because of the added weight but after seeing how that couldve made way less of a headache i gotta get one.

Any snow experiences on the Bridgestone Duelers?
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a Hi-Lift jack or a Come-A-long works well as a low budget winch... tkaes a lil more time & muscle, but it works, especially with something like this situation.

You can get either or at Tractor Supply if theres one near you

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Best at what?
All terrain tires are a compromise. Your Jeep didn't fail you, your tires did.

This was taken in December, we received over 6 feet of snow in less than a month and the only time we got stuck was when I slid it into the ditch screwing around in 2 wheel drive.


33" BFG mud terrains that have been siped.
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a Hi-Lift jack or a Come-A-long works well as a low budget winch... tkaes a lil more time & muscle, but it works, especially with something like this situation.

You can get either or at Tractor Supply if theres one near you

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Really good idea i actually had not thought of that yet. and i cant do the cheap fence post clap mod for across the back of my roll bar

Best at what skeeter? uhh being all terrain
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u made ur girl push...???
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u made ur girl push...???
Wouldn't you?

Haha if you re-read he said she was spinning the tires an he was pushing. Or did I read it wrong and you are right? Either way Ass, gas or grass nobody rides for free so she pobably picked pushing.
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u made ur girl push...???

She wasnt bringing me money so she was pushing.

naw i had her behind the wheel. her first time too... i was proud that she didnt just stall it out five times let alone actually do what i wanted her to while i lifted.
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Best at what skeeter? uhh being all terrain
You're the one that said your tires are considered best. Your tires are a compromise between street and adverse conditions which means they are not best at either.

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Now for future mall crawling refernce what do i need to do to my jeep to make this stroke inducing experinece not happen again.
I offered you two options that would have gotten you out of the situation. I'm sorry you don't seam to like the answers but they are the only logical options.
Your Jeep did not fail you. Your lack of recovery gear didn't fail you. Your girlfriend not being a 300 lb linebacker didn't fail you.
You simply didn't have the traction for the conditions you were in. the only way to fix that is to get better tires for the conditions, and or use tire chains.

I don't wish to argue with you, if you don't like my answer that's fine. Good luck.
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I don't wish to argue with you, if you don't like my answer that's fine. Good luck.
I dont wanna argue with you either with a sig like that im just trying to figure out what you meant by "better" tires. thank you for your input
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siped?
Cutting small slices across the tread, it gives the tire more gripping edges.
Toyota Tech: Siping Tires
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Right there bro thanks for teaching me about what "siping" is. I only thought i could do that with my crown and water on friday nights
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bring a shovel, dig. -- works after your stuck.

let most of the air out of your tires. --keeps you from getting stuck

better tires(i know, i know) get a mud tire, a snow tire, or a mud+snow tire. bfg AT's arnt the best for either or both.

Siping!! great increase in ICE traction for 10-15 bucks a tire. worth it.

snow is a tough thing to explain whats best, every snow needs something different. but in general, big-wide-almost flat tires are king in deep snow.
If your looking for an on road winter tire I'd recommend a set of bizzaks:
Snow Tires Built for Alaskan Blizzards! - Bridgestone Blizzak Passenger/Performance Tire - Epinions.com

we run them on our 2wd trooper cruisers. they do just fine in the winters here in Alaska
even the other year we got 196" of snow here in the city and an additional 100" in outlying areas. not a problem. that winter we ended up pulling the studs off all our dumptrucks and went exclusively with sipped tires.

just an educated opinion, still only worth what you paid for it

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