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Old 06-02-2007, 09:28 AM   #1
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So I built a Scout Jeep yesterday!

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Now he just needs some tube fenders.

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Old 06-02-2007, 09:35 AM   #2
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wait a second, there's some mud on the flares. that can't be a scout jeep.

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Old 06-02-2007, 09:39 AM   #3
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wait a second, there's some mud on the flares. that can't be a scout jeep.
it was in the garage tho.
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good point. got any mall shots?
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:57 AM   #5
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Looks pretty good Andy. What did you do to it? It appears to have a lot of sheet metal left.

PS - I wanna garage like that.
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Looks pretty good Andy. What did you do to it? It appears to have a lot of sheet metal left.

PS - I wanna garage like that.
Not everyone envisions a jeep like I do. So this one has all the sheet metal left. There are only a few times I remember someone cutting up a new jeep. This is an 06 with 11k on the ODO.

I installed a Super Ultimate kit for one of Dirks customers using the HD OME coils. This rides like a dream. Here is a good picture of the Super Ultimate Suspension System.



I like working on newer jeeps. Everything just falls off without the sawzall.
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:24 AM   #7
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Cool and it looks good too.

Your linkie no workie though.
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:58 AM   #8
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yah looks really good
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Not everyone envisions a jeep like I do. So this one has all the sheet metal left. There are only a few times I remember someone cutting up a new jeep. This is an 06 with 11k on the ODO.

I installed a Super Ultimate kit for one of Dirks customers using the HD OME coils. This rides like a dream. Here is a good picture of the Super Ultimate Suspension System.



I like working on newer jeeps. Everything just falls off without the sawzall.

Where did you mount the hat?
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:47 AM   #10
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I leave that up to the customer. It is a high quality hat but I'm not a hat guy so I leave that to their judgment. Hats mess up my hair!
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Whats a lift like that run? ($) Hopefully one day my Jeep will grow up!
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Whats a lift like that run? ($) Hopefully one day my Jeep will grow up!
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$ 2,119.00

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I LOVE my DPG/OME hat! I wear it ALL the time working on my Jeep. Sure beats getting my NASA hat all dirty!

All I need now are those JKS adj arms and I'm set!
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Id love one too..dunno if its worth 2k though
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:32 AM   #15
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Id love one too..dunno if its worth 2k though
It all depends on where you are going with your jeep. If you want to keep a small lift with 35s the the super ultimate kit is hard to beat. Regardless of price. For most, ease of mind is worth the extra bank. The beefiness and quality of all those products combined with the comfort level achieved by this particular lift setup is great.

I installed this same setup on Anya's jeep(my wife). I knew I could install it and be done. That is worth the extra money in itself. But it isn't for everyone. I believe this system does not have a tire limitation size. I do believe the jeep with stock axles and wheelbase has a tire limitation size. This system will grow with your jeep until you are ready to do something custom.
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I got everything but the ACA's. And that is in the not-so-distant future. It was my first treck underneath. The parts are solid. A friend of mine has a 5" lift with a 2" bl and was amazed at what I got out of the kit. I want somebody to help me with the ACA's.
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i didnt know OME was making 4" springs?

ive only seen 2" coils
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oops sorry i didnt see the BL in the description.
looks good
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:54 AM   #19
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ive only seen 2" coils
OME has been making the 4" coils for awhile now. We had one of the first sets for product testing. We installed them on Eli's jeep and they were just too tall for short arms.

Here are some pics.



Those are 35s.
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OME has been making the 4" coils for awhile now.
i´ve read in the german magazine "4wheelfun" that ARB australia says that the 4" springs are only for offroad use. for fast on road use they are not safe.



what´s the difference onroad/offroad between stock CAs and the adj. JKS CAs?

is there an advantage with adj. trackbars with "only" 2.5" lift?
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:23 PM   #21
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i´ve read in the german magazine "4wheelfun" that ARB australia says that the 4" springs are only for offroad use. for fast on road use they are not safe.

what´s the difference onroad/offroad between stock CAs and the adj. JKS CAs?

is there an advantage with adj. trackbars with "only" 2.5" lift?

You won't get me to say they are "unsafe" as they are far from that. If you retain the stock control arms with that much lift I believe there are other factors that make your jeep "unsafe" that are a direct result of the lift height but not the fault of the springs. Those springs are load tested the same way their 2.5" coils are and there is nothing unsafe about them.

That being said... Adjustable control arms allow you the ability to adjust your suspension setup back to their best operating range. You can adjust pinion angle which adjust caster and gives your jeep a better handling vehicle. Adjustable track bars align your axles. That cures so many problems. The tires are centered and you have less of a chance to rub tires on other components. Your Ujoints are happy on the drive shafts due to being aligned properly.

Having components that are adjustable allow you the freedom to "dial in" your suspension for your driving habits. Even with adding 1" of lift will distort the alignment of your axles. Having adjustable control arms and track bars allow you to move everything back within their best operating range. This, of course, grows with you as you desire bigger tires for ground clearance and the lift that is required to run them.

Moreover, and the part I believe most people miss, is the difference between aftermarket control arms and their stock counterparts. Ever felt the difference between a JKS control arm versus a stock one? No comparison. Even taking the adjustability out of the picture there is something to be said about the beefiness of aftermarket products.

Ever see this picture floating around the net?? This was one of Dirks customers. He wasn't wheelin or thrashing through the rock gardens. He was driving down the road around 25mph. A woman pulled out in front of him and he had to slam on the brakes. You can see the outcome.







This is a direct result from wheelin his jeep. Constant abuse of the lower control arms eventually made them crumble. You won't see this in a JKS control arm. They are designed to handle the abuse we can deliver them.

Another form from JKS control arms is their design to help limit bushing deflection. The control arm will twist which directly results in less bushing wear. I believe this results in a smoother off road ride when the axle articulates which a stock control arm just won't get you.
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thanks for the information.
i want to upgrade to aftermarket CAs when i buy a belly-up and a SYE next winter. just wanted to know where is the difference.

one more question. are the stock brake lines long enough for a 2.5" OME suspension and disconnects?
i didn´t know that and ordered some stainless steel lines with my lift.
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The problem comes from the shocks. Not the lift height or disconnects. Your shocks limit axle droop. I'm a firm believe that you should not take anyones advice on your brake lines. You need to physically verify that when your jeep is at full droop that all brake lines have plenty of slack when you turn side to side through the entire range of motion in the steering system.

They are cheap and it is easy to do so replacing the stocker lines is usually one of the first jobs I do to a vehicle.
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ok then i´ll install the SS brake lines. they´re for 2-4 lift said the goodridge website.

do you know a person that sells OME suspensions?
perhaps you can ask him a question from me...?
http://www.wranglerforum.com/tj-chat...able-8820.html
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I will ask tomorrow.
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I will ask tomorrow.
thank you very very much!

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As an alternative to after market control arms, could you just box them up with some plate on the open side? I can see this wouldn't do anything to beef the mounting points unless they can be reenforced also.
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Boxing them might add some strength but the stock CA still won't pivot (twist) like most aftermarket CA's.

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Boxing them might add some strength but the stock CA still won't pivot (twist) like most aftermarket CA's.
Good point, I didn't think about that.

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