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Old 12-11-2010, 02:14 PM   #1
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So im looking into a 4' lift

Like it says above I'm lookin for a cheap (as in price$$$$) 4 ' lift .. What do u all recommend. I m lookin for the more bang for your buck deal any links and personnel experiences welcome thanks!!!!

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Old 12-11-2010, 03:19 PM   #2
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the zone kit would be as cheap as id go.. a little better than procomp and rough country.. for around the same price

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What's the price on one of these& can I use my 2' spacers after I install the lift
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What's the price on one of these& can I use my 2' spacers after I install the lift
Here is a link to the Zone lift kit Jeep Wrangler TJ 97-06 4" Zone Suspension lift kit New - eBay (item 120647659817 end time Dec-14-10 15:59:43 PST)

As for adding the 2" spacers, there are alot of supporting mods needed to run 6" of lift in a tj.
slip yoke eliminator kit
CV driveshaft
adjustable length rear upper control arms
adjustable length front track bar
extended length brake lines

and I'm sure I'm missing some others. My do you need such a tall lift? What size tires are you running?
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Well I already have the 2' spacers so I thought mayb if I could throw them in then I would but it kinda sounds like 6' is alot more wrk :/
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6' = 6 feet
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the zone kit would be as cheap as id go.. a little better than procomp and rough country.. for around the same price
I'm a new jeeper and also looking into a 4" lift (suspension only) and have not heard of the "zone" system. Went to a local 4X4 center (4 wheel parts) and they seem to push the Procomp system as really good. Have you had an experience with the procomp or the rough country systems that that makes you think they are not worth using?
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I'm a new jeeper and also looking into a 4" lift (suspension only) and have not heard of the "zone" system. Went to a local 4X4 center (4 wheel parts) and they seem to push the Procomp system as really good. Have you had an experience with the procomp or the rough country systems that that makes you think they are not worth using?
yes.. i ran the 2'' procomp kit.. my ex ran the 4'' procomp kit..

1) shocks are miserable..
2) her 4'' kit came with all 4 extended lower control arms.. and they didnt flex worth a crap..
3) springs sag within a couple months

its not worth it.. spend the extra money.. call up a shop like absolute offroad, dpg offroad, or rokmen.. those guys know their stuff and will help you find a lift to suit your needs
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Well I already have the 2' spacers so I thought mayb if I could throw them in then I would but it kinda sounds like 6' is alot more wrk :/
after 4'' of lift.. you'll need aftermarket control arms.. most people would go long arms over 4'' of lift..

not including at 4'' you need a sye/ds.. and plus.. 6'' of lift will look silly with anything smaller than 35'' tires.. and most jeeps arent set up to run any bigger tires stock..

a d35 imo is only got for 33s.. although ive seen MANY ppl get away with 35s on em (my ex for example) but any serious offroader will go through the the d35s like toilet paper
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So what lift out there is gonna last sounds like pro comp sags after a while... how bout rough country 4" or "zone" 4"???
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So what lift out there is gonna last sounds like pro comp sags after a while... how bout rough country 4" or "zone" 4"???
Ive had the zone 4" on my tj for about two years, and really like it. Its a good lift for the money. I did not need the sye, as i did not get driveline vibrations, but i hear its different on each jeep.
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I'm a new jeeper and also looking into a 4" lift (suspension only) and have not heard of the "zone" system. Went to a local 4X4 center (4 wheel parts) and they seem to push the Procomp system as really good.
Naturally they would push ProComp since they own ProComp, that is their house brand. Of all the suspension lifts out there, ProComp is at the very bottom of my list of desirable suspension lifts. Their control arms are so inflexible that if you offroad much, you can guarantee you'll have control arm brackets torn off from where they are welded to the axle. ProComp's ES-3000 shocks are so stiff riding that you'll be making your dentist's Porsche payments for him before long.
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So what lift out there is gonna last sounds like pro comp sags after a while... how bout rough country 4" or "zone" 4"???
ProComp won't sag after a while, that's not the issue with their entry-level mass-market appeal suspension lifts. Actually, their coil springs are excellent quality... it's the rest of their suspension lift components I wouldn't touch.

Are you still thinking you want to add your 2" spacers to the top of a 4" suspension lift? If so, don't. 6" is too tall and just results in an unnecessarily high COG (center of gravity) which simply means it will be more prone to tip or roll over on uneven trails.

That's not even the main reason to not go with 6" which isn't needed until you get to at least 37" tires. With even 4", and especially 6" of lift, you start needing expensive upgrades like a SYE (slip yoke eliminator) kit and a longer CV (constant velocity) driveshaft to get rid of the severe vibrations such a tall lift will cause by excessively steep rear driveshaft/u-joint angles.

What I'm saying is there really is no such thing as a good cheap-to-install 4" lift. 4" is where things start getting expensive to do right. I'd instead go for a 3" lift where you won't need things like the SYE and CV driveshaft.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:15 PM   #15
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Thanks for the info jeepers! I have 1 last question if I get the 3" lift or 3.25" can I use the 2" spacers?
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In order for us to give you some better advice why don't you tell us your plans.
1. What type of off roading and how often?
2. Is it going to be your Daily Driver?
3. What size tire are you hoping to run and what axle set up do you have.

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What I'm saying is there really is no such thing as a good cheap-to-install 4" lift. 4" is where things start getting expensive to do right. I'd instead go for a 3" lift where you won't need things like the SYE and CV driveshaft.
Jerry hit it on the head. 4 inches isn't cheap and that is where things start adding up quick (ex: SYE, Control arms, axle upgrades, gears, etc...)
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If you are trying to save money the amount of lift you want may cost you more in the end if its done completely with Suspension. 4" may put you in SYE area and you won't know for sure until the lift kit is installed . I started out small to make sure I didn't have to buy a SYE until "I" was ready . I did RC 2.5" progressive rate springs because of the ride quality , added a 3/4?" spacer to the springs which got me a little over three inches with no need for a SYE and then added a 1" BL to get me 4" or slightly more of total lift .Then with the BL you can also add a JK budget MML to help out with the drive shaft angle so you don't have to lower your transfercase as much plus the BL opens the door for many other future options. I never added a SYE until I put the 8.8 in .
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It doesnt matter how you get to the height, coil spacers or not, if you go to 4" or above your going to need to add a sye, adjustable control arms etc.
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Ok I plan on goin with a 4" suspension lift and running 33s ... It's not my daily driver and I do a little bit more than moderate jeeping on weekends ( well I manage with the 2" spacers & 32"s) so therefore I wish to upgrade with a 4" lift and I don't plan on doing.a body lift!
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Like it says above I'm lookin for a cheap (as in price$$$$) 4 ' lift .. What do u all recommend. I m lookin for the more bang for your buck deal any links and personnel experiences welcome thanks!!!!
I recommend you save your money. Cheap and 4" lift shouldn't be used in the same sentence, especially if you actually want the Jeep to be drivable and functional. Get about $5000-6000 together, then we'll talk.

If you don't care about having a rig that actually works, slap on a 3" body lift and a 2" budget boost. Thats 5" of lift and as cheap as it gets.

Just remember: You get what you pay for.
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Well from your comments I don't know what your goal is for price. I recently put the Rubicon Express Super Flex 3.5" (actually about 4.5") with adjustable front track bar and adjustable lower control arms. All in all I spent about $1,300 for the parts but am very pleased with the kit. Rubicon Express - RE7003 3.5 Super-Flex Free Monotube Shocks

Or you could just start out with this kit which is a bit cheaper but you can always add onto it later (ex: adj track bars, adj control arms). Make sure you go with the mono tube shocks when getting RE. Rubicon Express - RE7002 3.5 Standard Kit FREE SHOCKS
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Ok I plan on goin with a 4" suspension lift and running 33s ... It's not my daily driver and I do a little bit more than moderate jeeping on weekends ( well I manage with the 2" spacers & 32"s) so therefore I wish to upgrade with a 4" lift and I don't plan on doing.a body lift!
with 4" suspension lift (3"5 rear) and running 33" tires with my Jeep, following are what I have done: Steering Stabilizer, front adjustable track bar, rear track bar bracket, sway bar link front and rear, adjustable control arms front and rear, 1" transfer case drop (SYE soon).

BTW. Just look at people signature and figure it out.
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Well I already have the 2' spacers so I thought mayb if I could throw them in then I would but it kinda sounds like 6' is alot more wrk :/
This is the cheapest way for you my friend.

Go to fatbob and buy a set of lift spring with 2"5 front and 2" rear plus 2" spacers and transfer case lowering kit. This will cost you less than 300 bucks and see if you like it.
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This is the cheapest way for you my friend.

Go to fatbob and buy a set of lift spring with 2"5 front and 2" rear plus 2" spacers and transfer case lowering kit. This will cost you less than 300 bucks and see if you like it.
and what about bumpstop extensions, brake lines, shocks, track bars, sway bar links, control arms or cam bolts for caster correction, upgraded steering to turn the tires?
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and what about bumpstop extensions, brake lines, shocks, track bars, sway bar links, control arms or cam bolts for caster correction, upgraded steering to turn the tires?
This exactly what I meant.
If you don't care about having a rig that actually works, slap on a 3" body lift and a 2" budget boost. Thats 5" of lift and as cheap as it gets.

Just remember: You get what you pay for.
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Just kiddin'. A lot of people get pulled into the standard 4" with 33 inch tire deal. It's almost become the standard. What people don't realize is that once you start changing stock configurations, you start spending more and more money. You read a dozen reviews of people putting their lifts on smoothly. Well, to be honest a lot of stuff doesn't go smoothly for all. I spent probably 20 man hours installing a 4 inch lift on my YJ, which is A LOT more simple than a TJ lift. My steering got screwed up(even after alignment,) my column shift linkage got screwed up, and a few other things as well. Things are back to normal now, but it takes awhile.

Please do your research on what you want. I know the forums are great, but check other places as well. Make sure you have to tools, and some extra money for an oh sh!t fund. Also, buy an angle grinder....trust me...you won't regret it.

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