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Old 07-16-2010, 08:36 PM   #31
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It won't stop a theft, but a wireless camera on the house or garage aimed at the spot where the vehicle is parked might help catch the person that's doing it. Can even get good ones that work well in darkness. Just a thought.

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Old 07-17-2010, 12:45 AM   #32
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30-284.....I have had the sunglasses for a few years. They have personal identifiers on them.

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Old 07-17-2010, 01:04 AM   #33
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Burton160w.....Just because you have one bad encounter with the police doesn't mean that all the police are bad. It is pure ignorance for someone to make a statement like that. At some point in time all people are victims of crime. This was not the first time nor will it be the last time that I am a victim of a crime.

Try to remember that when most people hear gun shots they run away, we run towards them to keep other people safe. Many people who have worn the badge have given the ultimate sacrifice to protect other people who make statements like "I hope you don't get your stuff back."

My reply is sickening? You are the one on here bad mouthing a person that you have never met. You do not know how I do my job or what good I have done during my service. All you do is read an incident and make comments because I said that I would question and charge who-ever was involved. Get real!

I hope that the next time you encounter law enforcement you display a better attitude and don't bring your old baggage to the table. You will find that we are individuals and humans just like you. You may find that there are tons of us out there that are willing to lend a hand and protect a stranger we have never met. It is a shame that you couldn't walk a mile in my shoes and see the things that I have dealt with.

Any citizen of the United States has the right to obtain warrants/petitions on people should the probable cause exist. I am not doing anything that any other citizen couldn't do. So if you KNEW who had taken your ATV, had the proof that the person had actually taken it, then you could have gotten the warrants yourself. Most police officers would have looked into the matter further and done a proper investigation, but I am not aware of the whole situation and do not know the details so I can not make a fair assessment of it.

Yeah...I am a bad guy for wanting to see the people who took my stuff charged and I am willing to get the charges myself. I think a lot of other people would go to much more extreme measures in this situation.

Next time think about things before you comment. If you wish to make negative comments to people then maybe you should keep them to yourself.
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:21 AM   #34
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Sorry to hear about this. Bummer.
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Old 07-17-2010, 02:24 AM   #35
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Yeah....It sucks. I guess in retrospect it could have been much worse. At least my top isn't cut, my Jeep wasn't stolen, and nothing was damaged. It sure is a kick in the pants to have someone come into your driveway and tamper with your stuff though.
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:23 AM   #36
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Get an alarm system for convertibles. Wife had one on her Mustang. If she parked it with the top down and the alarm on, it would go off just by someone reaching inside the "perimeter".

Wiring up an electric cattle fence unit to a vehicle is not that hard. Non lethal and does hurt a bit if they get zapped. Who ever said it was illegal, please quote the law or statute. Never heard that one.

Shooting in defense of property. Texas is about the only place you can get away with that, and it generally has to be after dark (open season). Know your laws on that one too.

Been there, done that, got the police report for B&E on my truck. Fired the dog, stamped my feet, and quit storing anything of value in the cab.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:04 AM   #37
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Dude, Lock-it or lose-it.
As a brother of the badge, how many calls have we worked where we thought to ourselves "All you had to do is lock the door..." Most petty thefts (and many major thefts) are crimes of convenience. Thieves are lazy....otherwise they would have a job...earning money...and buying their own stuff...to get stolen by others. They follow the path of least resistance and if they encounter a locked screen door (or soft top door), they are likely to move-on to a softer target.
I'm not saying I havent been hit. I left my suburban unlocked one night, some S---bag got into it and fount the spare key to my wife's car...and stole her car. (we got it back 29 days later...unfortunately). Another time, I had a s---bag actually break the vent window of my older suburban and get into it. He got away with my "Go-Bag" which had my spare mags, previous days reports, stinger flashlight, spare cuffs, all my toys. I was not amused. But ultimately, s--- happens. I've gone out in the morning and found my vehicles egged, POSSIBLY because of my uniform. I guess its kinda like "couting coup" on the enemy.
Alarm systems might help, but mostly just piss off the neighbors. And at about $500 they usually cost more than you would otherwise lose.
Motion activated lights might work, but might just give the s---bags light to see by.
...But they also give me a clearer shot
What does work best...is door locks...and you alredy have them.
Not lecturing, just pointing out the painfully obvious, and helping you through that oh-so painful "DOH!! moment."
It certainly does bring home the feeling of "victimization" and how the harm goes far beyone the material loss.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:06 AM   #38
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I had a friend that was a cop. He had a nice red BMW. Left it parked in the police parking lot downtown one night and someone broke into it. The only thing they stole was the alarm system.

Now who would want an alarm system that you can steal?
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:43 AM   #39
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burton...your a ham. LOL
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:47 AM   #40
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Well, there is always a hard top which are a little more secure than a soft top.

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Well, there is always a hard top which are a little more secure than a soft top.

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Old 07-17-2010, 01:37 PM   #42
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Definitely not the hard top. That is almost like going hunting with blanks in your gun! LOL.

I, like a lot of people, had a false sense of security with my stuff on my property. Live and learn, my stuff is now locked up in the driveway. C'est la vie!
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:41 PM   #43
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Many, many years ago my car was broke into while I was at work. The Officer that came when the Police were called told me "if there is nothing of value in the car, then don't lock the car. A locked vehicle is a sign that there's something of value in it." Most of the time my vehicle isn't locked. My wife and daughter lock their vehicles, and both have been broken into. My son locks his, but with a plate like 1Adam12 they don't mess with it. And yes, his name is also Adam.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:56 PM   #44
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Sorry to hear your stuff got stolen, and I hope you do find who stole it and prosecute them. Personally, I just try to take anything out of the jeep that I don't want stolen. Don't always do it, but I try. Anything I leave is cheap or I just forgot...like tonight..I left my Oakleys in it DOH!

Regarding the other guy that was giving you a hard time, I have met many people in many different professions that were burned out and didn't do a good job. I've had cops who didn't give a sh*t that my store was broken into and just wanted to leave, but I've also met cops that pulled my brother out of burning home. There are bad apples in every profession, but nobody deserves to be a victim of crime. just my 2˘ worth
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:30 PM   #45
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Lambdatoys....Hope that your store getting broken into is not a normal thing. You are right, there are good, bad, and right out ugly people in every profession.

When I was working normal road stuff I hated dealing with shoplifters. They would always cop this attitude like "no one is getting hurt but the store/corp. that they stole from." It is hard to explain to them that the reason that prices tend to go up on things is because of people stealing and shoplifting. Now the store has to pay for the loss, pay someone to do loss prevention, and so on and so on.

No one deserves to be a victim. Again....I am so glad that nothing was damaged and it was only small items that were taken. I was pretty pissed about it but I have to say that after having a day to cool off I am really glad nothing else was messed with.

There are a lot of people for a car alarm and a lot of people saying it isn't needed. The people who said that I need to lock my stuff up are 100% correct. Taking things out of the Jeep is another good suggestion. The lockable trunks and consoles are also a good solution.

All in all there was a lot of good input on here.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:43 PM   #46
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Sorry about the theft.

Even more sorry that you had to read a response by this Burton kid (at least I hope anyone using the word 'beat' is a kid). Having a hatred like that against someone is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.

On a more positive note, we had something like this theft take place throughout my community. I like to think I live in Mayberry and never lock my house much less my car and I joined the rank of victims when my ipod was taken from my car.

After a few months, two guys were caught as a result of a policeman who recognized them wearing a unique jacket that belonged to a neighbor of his. After some questioning and follow up they eventually confessed and a fair amount of the stolen goods were recovered.

I didn't get my ipod back which I paid for with money I earned from working. According to burton160w, I guess I should hate all police officers.

As a side note...it wasn't reported if the thieves told the officer to blow his questions out of his ass.

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I commend you for your patient response to him. To quote Rodney King (certainly no big fan of law enforcement) "Why can't we all just get along?"
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:45 PM   #47
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In summary...

Center-mass.

Double-tap.

Society is a better place

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I worry about stupid kids cutting my top. It's like, dude, use the zippers. Seriously. There is no point in cutting windows and the top for burned cds, a hoodie that's been washed way -too- many times, and walmart sunglasses. Just unzip! I already had to crawl through my back window because I locked my keys inside. And who would steal stock radios anyway? A dumb punk is who. They are petty theives. I hate Denver. We have nothing but kids trying to be hard.
I'm sorry about your break in but I guess we all need to learn the hard way to protect our jeeps.
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In summary...

Center-mass.

Double-tap.

Insert - Hire an attorney, loose everything, go to prison...

Society is a better place

If you are one of the 1% in this country that carries, you should already know that the weapon is a last resort to stop a threat to your life. Not stop pond scum from taking an ipod and sunglasses out of your vehicle.

I'm 100% with you on this. Zero tolerance for these types of criminal activities. But until the little nancys in the judicial system buy into it and stop giving criminals more rights than the law abiding ones, we're screwed.
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O and its no longer double tap... Its controlled pair, sounds more humane haha
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If we're gonna be completely PC, lets call it "Failure-drill"
aka:....you FAIL to follow instructions...I DRILL 10mm holes in your carcass.
......Which I guess is more technically a "triple tap".
I completely agree that lethal force should always be a last resort.....simply because it isnt worth the paperwork.
But this starts to get into a much longer discussion of how the prevailing mentality of our once great nation managed to get as f---ed-up as it is right now.
In short, criminality increases when there is not a swift and certain consequence for the crime. s---bags do their deed because they know that they probably wont get caught....if caught, they probably wont be punished....if punished, it probably wont be significant....if significant, they can wear it like a badge of honor among their fellow s---bags.
No, I'm not advocating killing a person for stealing a loaf of bread. I'm not advocating cutting off their hand, or breaking their hand, or slapping them with a wet noodle.
I'm not defining what punishment is adequate...only that SOME punishment should be "swift and certain".....but our society has DEvolved beyond that possibility and our self-entitled masses are far too sensitive to to take the drastic measures necessary to recover from our decades of endulgence. And that nausiates me.
I take personal delight in a situation here in Austin about 10 years ago. Citizen in a third story apartment yells at a s---bag who was stealing the stereo from his car. Said, s---bag yells back some less than complimentary remarks and starts WALKING down the street with the good-citizens stereo. Citizen goes into his apartment and comes back with his rifle and picks-off the s---bag. Grand Jury no-billed him (shoulda given him a medal). Swift and certain consequences.
Again, almost certainly not worth all the crap that guy had to go through to get cleared.
But DANG! it feels good to see the good guy win for a change. THAT guy is my hero. He knew he was gonna have years of legal grief...but he did the right thing anyway....he defended his own property. Isnt that the definition of heroism? Doing the right thing despite the consequences to ones self?
Regrettably, there are far FAR more examples of people "doing the right thing" and getting chewed-up and spit-out buy our "system"....which is why it is so much easier to just bend-over and take it, and file the insurance claim in the morning.
And that is precisely why the s---bags keep getting away with it.

Apathy it the worst crime of all.

Okie dokie....thats my daily rant. Sorry for over-sharing. Time to go find some fun....

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