My rampage ones stick out, as mentioned above. this allows them to "seep" moisture inside when it rains: water constantly drips down the inside of the window. Also, this was my second winter with them on, and they started leaking through the fabric seam below the window. Needless to say, they'll be replaced before our next rainy season. I have been thoroughly unimpressed by Rampage's "R-A-T" that came with my Jeep when I bought it (the top & hardware was clearly brand new when I bought the Jeep). Rain & snow goes in through the back at the base of the rear window zippers, the left tension strap tore thru the rivets last summer, and the right is now down to one rivet holding it on. Add in the leaky door uppers, and you have a very nice collander-style top for your Jeep!