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Old 12-03-2012, 09:41 AM   #1
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Softopper Review

I installed my new Softopper frameless soft top last week. I thought Iíd share my impressions in case somebody else is considering buying one. My TJ had a factory soft top already that was dry rotted and ripping in several places. I decided to go with the frameless versus replacing it with a factory style maily because I like the look of the frameless and I like to run with the windows out and the top part up on nice days. The frameless seemed like a better option for running in that configuration.

First the top seems to be made very well. The material is every bit a thick as the original top in my opinion. Iíve read some reviews that say this top is much quieter than the stock soft top. I cannot say that is the case in my brief experience. Iíd say that the top seems to me to be about the same level of ďnoisinessĒ as the original. So, not bad but not quiet either. I think much of the noise in my case emanates from the factory soft upper doors anyway.

It takes a bit of work on the original install. But that is mostly just learning curve I think. Once itís on it is quick and easy to remove and replace the windows. Easier than my old factory top for sure.

The fit is a bit wrinkly in a couple places. But since all of the zippers are mounted on industrial strength Velcro I think that Iíll be able to adjust the wrinkles out over time. Also, Iím not crazy about the bulge in the roof created by the factory sound bar. Of course you'd have that with any brand of frameless soft top. I may try to come up with a way to lower the sound bar a few inches.

Overall I like this top and I think it will work really well for me.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:53 AM   #2
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Looks good. Mine is supposed to be here Wednesday. Can't wait!

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:01 AM   #3
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Congrats! I love the top for the function.
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Looks nice. I think the wrinkles can be adjusted out by rearranging the zippers too. Difference being, I've got to wait for warmer, drier weather.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:28 PM   #5
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why does it seem like ST is like the underdog of the frameless? Always seeing Rampage or Bestop being mentioned. ST is the best frameless for the ease of function if your the Jeeper that loves the top off more than on...
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It's because they don't use secondary sellers (Quadratec, 4WD, etc.) Just about all of their sales are from word of mouth, or internet research.

They've been in business for quite a while, making toppers for pick ups.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:43 PM   #7
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why does it seem like ST is like the underdog of the frameless? Always seeing Rampage or Bestop being mentioned. ST is the best frameless for the ease of function if your the Jeeper that loves the top off more than on...
I did a lot of research and ultimately decided the ST was the way to go. I think they are less popular because they are only sold factory direct. Just my two cents.
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I've talked to several local jeepers with the rampage top that didn't even know that anyone else made a frameless top. But the seem to be getting more popular on the jeep boards, so maybe the word is getting out more now.
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I thought of the Rampage but so many people mentioned some quality problems.. so I opted for the softopper and installed it this afternoon. Took 1.5 hours to install it. My jeep came factory with a softop. I had the door surrounds and I suggest you get them. The seal is really good with the surrounds.. and eliminates the strap that goes over the driver seat to passenger seat because of them. I installed in at a mechanics shop and I did need their help. I took all the hardware off of mine, used the header that came with the softopper. I needed four bolts as well for my surrounds. Oddly I needed longer bolts on the tailgate part. It is a bit wrinkly and needs to settle. I installed in at about 60 degrees.. I don't think you could do it at a lower temp. (really hard to get the back window in)

It is quieter than my old one but I need to tighten it to make it even quieter..and I have to wait for it to be warmer out - or in the sun.

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Looks good! I'm planning on buying a frameless top this spring, and the Softopper is at the top of my list.
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I thought of the Rampage but so many people mentioned some quality problems.. so I opted for the softopper and installed it this afternoon. Took 1.5 hours to install it. My jeep came factory with a softop. I had the door surrounds and I suggest you get them. The seal is really good with the surrounds.. and eliminates the strap that goes over the driver seat to passenger seat because of them. I installed in at a mechanics shop and I did need their help. I took all the hardware off of mine, used the header that came with the softopper. I needed four bolts as well for my surrounds. Oddly I needed longer bolts on the tailgate part. It is a bit wrinkly and needs to settle. I installed in at about 60 degrees.. I don't think you could do it at a lower temp. (really hard to get the back window in)

It is quieter than my old one but I need to tighten it to make it even quieter..and I have to wait for it to be warmer out - or in the sun.
What exactly are the door surrounds that you speak of to make it quieter? And can they be used with a factory style soft top and half doors?

PO had the top replaced shortly before I bought it so I feel it's a waste to go and change out an almost new top. I just like the idea of making it quieter when I have the top up.
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Door surrounds are included when you have a factory soft top jeep. If your jeep came only with a hard top you would not have them. Softopper has a bar that fits around the door but I don't feel it is the same as the door surrounds. Very snug and well made to fit the softopper exactly.
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okay then i probably have them already
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I've put my softopper through two summers so far It still looks great and the windows are still clear. can have it on or off in less than 3 minutes. My only regret is I didn't get the dark tinted windows.
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I went to a hardtop and I currently listed my softopper for sale yesterday for 400 with tinted windows.. (got a hardtop for 200 bucks)
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I only wish their side windows were larger like the bestop and rampage tops.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:14 AM   #17
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the bottom of the side windows line up with the full door windows I think the design was on purpose...

Softopper is still the best frameless out there.
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Personally, I've never had a problem being able to see out the side windows. I can see everything I need to see to change lanes, etc.
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Bump...

How are you guys with Softoppers liking them? Are they holding up well? Now that the holidays are over, it's time to give the Jeep some lovin'. It has been without a top and confined to the garage a lot of the time since spring, which is bumming me out. I've read lots of reviews on here with very very little negative (maybe one or two) and the price has come down quite a bit since I last looked at them a year or so ago. The tinted one is down to $469 shipped now.

Pretty sure it's the one I'm going to go with, just wanted to see how they're holding up now that they've been out for awhile.
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X2 and how hard is it to get door uppers to match? I need those as well and it doesn't look like they offer them.
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I ran a Softopper on my YJ for a year and loved it. Looking forward to getting one for my TJ this spring
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X2 and how hard is it to get door uppers to match? I need those as well and it doesn't look like they offer them.
I ran BestTop full soft doors on my YJ and the material and color (black) was pretty much a match.
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I ran BestTop full soft doors on my YJ and the material and color (black) was pretty much a match.
Thank you. The black is confusing to me some are black, black diamond, or black denim.
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Thank you. The black is confusing to me some are black, black diamond, or black denim.
They don't recommend using half doors with the Softopper. I had a decent seal with the full soft doors because I could bend the frames enough to get a good seal all around. But even with a good seal the frames would flex away from the upper door seals at highway speeds, just too much airflow would catch the soft uppers.
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They don't recommend using half doors with the Softopper. I had a decent seal with the full soft doors because I could bend the frames enough to get a good seal all around. But even with a good seal the frames would flex away from the upper door seals at highway speeds, just too much airflow would catch the soft uppers.
This is from their website and it kinda goes with what you said:

"This top works with all Hard doors and most half soft doors and soft upper doors however if there is not adequate pressure against the door surrounds you may experience some water entry around the doors. This is normal with most soft top installations."

Im going to try it out anyway I think. If it doesnt work I have a bud with full doors that he isnt using and will sell them to me cheap.
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This is from their website and it kinda goes with what you said:

"This top works with all Hard doors and most half soft doors and soft upper doors however if there is not adequate pressure against the door surrounds you may experience some water entry around the doors. This is normal with most soft top installations."

Im going to try it out anyway I think. If it doesnt work I have a bud with full doors that he isnt using and will sell them to me cheap.
I didn't mind it, to be honest. It sealed fine at a full stop and I didn't drive through much rain anyways. I drove more with the doors off than on. Loved the convenience of the window storage loft that the softopper has. I ran the safari top most days
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Another benefit with Softopper is that you can order individual replacement pieces
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It takes a bit of work on the original install.
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My Softopper sucks !!!
- It leaks around the tops of the doors. Can't stop them from leaking short of caulking the door shut. Luckily is doesn't rain out here often.
- It flaps when driving down the road. I have the zippers adjusted all the way tight so no way to adjust it any more.
- the metal door surrounds look horrible. No way to fix this except to use a different brand that uses the factory door surrounds. Although I hear they now offer models for the LJ that use the factory door surround, which is a whole different story.

Customer service sucks except when they are taking your money.... they are really quick at taking care of that.

I would not buy another one of these.


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What did you have before the Softopper, if you don't mind me asking? Is it the only soft top you've ever had? Just wondering what you are comparing it to, because my factory soft top did all of the things you describe when it was still pretty new.

My only experience is with the factory soft top that I had constant trouble with, so I guess my expectations of a soft top in general aren't very high.


P.S.- Nice looking Jeep!

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