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Old 02-25-2012, 05:57 PM   #1
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I'm interested in either one of these Jeeps. I don't really know the difference between the Rubicon LWB and the Wrangler LWB. It's mostly for easy driving and light 4-wheeling. I know one is low mileage compared to the other. I'd just like some Jeeper's opinions on which one you would consider. Thanks



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Old 02-25-2012, 06:23 PM   #2
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The Rubicon has better axles and transfer case and it has lockers front and rear Stock. So it is a good platform to go from. Not sure how the current lift is so you can get it checked out. Me, I like Rubicons But I'm biased

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Old 02-25-2012, 06:36 PM   #3
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The Rubicon has better axles and transfer case and it has lockers front and rear Stock. So it is a good platform to go from. Not sure how the current lift is so you can get it checked out. Me, I like Rubicons But I'm biased
Is the gearing the same?
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:43 PM   #4
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Rubi's come stock with 4.10's. Not sure on the other.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:59 PM   #5
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The Wrangler LWB comes with 3:73 gears with 15 inch tires.
The Rubicon has 4:10's with 16 inch tires. Wonder if the MPG is much different? The tan Wrangler only has 23k miles on it, the Rubi has 58K, they are basically the same price.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:07 PM   #6
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for the price I wruild go for the rubi...I just did...06 red rubi lj... you will always wish you did...axles, gears, lockers, resale etc.....I jus t followed the advice from theforum...I am thrilled and looking forward to the new build...I am on the porch lookin at her and am anticipating the build...pics on the way tomorrow
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:08 PM   #7
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Unlimiteds all have the 44 in the rear with factory trac-loc....
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:26 PM   #8
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I like the Rubi everytime.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:32 AM   #9
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I currently have 4 Wranglers and regret that a couple of them are not Rubicons. Now that I know better next Jeep will be a Rubicon. The money it costs to make a Wrangler as trail worthy as a Rubicon is much more than the difference in price to buy the Rubicon in the first place. Axles and transfer case are huge.
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:03 AM   #10
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For your initial intended use including light trails the Rubicon is not necessary, BUT if you ever decide you want many capability, the Rubi is defintely the way to go.
The LJ Rubicon is the most sought after of the TJs. It has excellent resale value. As gas mileage, should be about the same.

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Is it a real Rubicon?

Maybe I missed something or don't understand the model year designations but I don't see anywhere in the Ford dealer's ad writeup that actually states it is a Rubicon. I do see twice that the dealer's ad says it is a Sahara. Given what I just mentioned, there is always the possibility that someone put Rubicon decals on a Non-Rubicon Wrangler. Pretenders do it all the time.

So, I hope you have road / off road tested both. Any death wobble? Any rust or water leaks? Does each have an equal warranty? What about each dealer's reputation?

If everything checks out, I would go with the one that has the Rubicon decals, even though it has higher mileage. It's a lot more vehicle with more optional equipment. Price wise I would think low $17s is where I would want to be, not $20ish.

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Old 02-26-2012, 07:35 AM   #12
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ONLY 57,690 Miles! REDUCED FROM $22,885!, PRICED TO MOVE $2,700 below Kelley Blue Book! 4WD, Running Boards, Premium Sound System, DUAL TOP GROUP W/MATCHING COLORS , SAHARA EDITION GROUP CLICK TO LEARN MORE! KEY FEATURES INCLUDE: 4x4, Running Boards, Premium Sound System, Aluminum Wheels. Privacy Glass, Rollover Protection System, 4-Wheel Disc Brakes, Locking Rear Differential. OPTION PACKAGES: DUAL TOP GROUP W/MATCHING COLORS: hard top, easy-folding soft top, rear window defroster, rear window wiper/washer, SAHARA EDITION GROUP: 16" x 8.0" "MOAB" graphite wheels, bright grille, front floor mats, leather wrapped steering wheel, speed control, Mopar sahara edition kit, premium cloth high-back bucket seats. Rubicon with Black with Black (Top) exterior and Khaki interior features a Straight 6 Cylinder Engine with 190 HP at 4600 RPM*. EXPERTS REPORT: Edmunds.com says - if you're dying for a cheap convertible or an off-road SUV that can go just about anywhere, it's hard to beat the Jeep Wrangler. 4 Star Driver Front Crash Rating. 4 Star Passenger Front Crash Rating. A GREAT TIME TO BUY: Was $22,885. Priced $2,700 below Kelley Blue Book. Approx. Original Base Sticker Price: $28,400*.

Most likely its a sahara with rubicon stickers. And a rubicon black paint job. If in fact it is a Rubicon then I would go for it but if not then I would check the market in other areas cause these prices seem a bit high.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:59 AM   #13
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Prices here in the SW are high on Jeeps--so many places to go offroad. Anyway, I just picked up a 2006 Rubi Unlimited for $21K with a very generous trade-in allowance. It had 4200 documented miles on it--hope that helps as a guide. Good luck with whatever you end up getting.
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I'm interested in either one of these Jeeps. I don't really know the difference between the Rubicon LWB and the Wrangler LWB. It's mostly for easy driving and light 4-wheeling.
As a reluctant Rubicon owner (my previous TJ Sport was stolen) and based on your described needs, there is no need to pay extra for a Rubicon. It is indeed the most off-road worthy model Jeep ever made but its front and rear lockers and 4:1 transfer case ratio are not needed for light four-wheeling. A standard and less costly Wrangler Sport is more than up to 90% of the wheeling any Jeeper would want to do.

If you think you may want to get into some more extreme forms of offroading, then a Rubicon would be a good Jeep to have but otherwise, I wouldn't spend extra for it. I doubt if 10% of the Rubicons on the road today ever see trails where their lockers and 4:1 transfer case ratio are needed.
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In the 2 links he showed the "Rubicon" is less expensive than the other Wrangler unlimited. However, The "Rubicon" is lifted and looks like some other mods are done to it. The other Looks stock so the choice is yours completely. I would however take the vin number and check if it is a Rubicon or just some badged up Sahara which has been modified with a rear locker and lifted which usually means wheeled to all hell.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:33 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the replies. I just emailed the dealer on the one listed as the Rubicon to make sure it isn't just Rubicon decals on a Wrangler. Connie, who's jeep it will actually be is leaning towards the tan stocker.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:49 PM   #17
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6th digit of the vin Is a 6. Rubicon.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:53 PM   #18
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Ok, so we gave a bunch of reasons to go with the "Rubicon". Can you tell why the tan Wrangler is preferred?
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:01 PM   #19
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Ok, so we gave a bunch of reasons to go with the "Rubicon". Can you tell why the tan Wrangler is preferred?
I personally like the Rubicon, but it's a woman's choice, most of yours or mine's reasons don't count. I mean here are a couple of her reasons: Black shows dirt too much , the tan one has less miles, the tan one is a year newer. What can I say Actually the tan one might fit Connie's driving the best.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:25 PM   #20
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Found this jeep on craigslist near your area. Best of both worlds. Rubicon with only 43,000 miles and cheaper then both of them.
**2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon*
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I personally like the Rubicon, but it's a woman's choice, most of yours or mine's reasons don't count. I mean here are a couple of her reasons: Black shows dirt too much , the tan one has less miles, the tan one is a year newer. What can I say Actually the tan one might fit Connie's driving the best.
Well, like some politicians say, I was for the Rubicon but I really meant I was for the Tan Wrangler because it is newer, has many less miles, doesn't show dirt...

Keep Connie happy...maybe someday she will get you a Rubi. I was looking for a $3000, 100,000 mile semi-project Wrangler and my wife bought me a brandy new 2011 customized to my specs. Happy Home!
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Found this jeep on craigslist near your area. Best of both worlds. Rubicon with only 43,000 miles and cheaper then both of them.
**2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon*
That's a great find, thanks. Now I'm looking at a couple of more hours on the computer
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For the same price, go Rubi. It's slightly higher mileage, but if you are only going to do light wheeling as described, its already ready to go for you and you won't have to dump money into modifications right off the bat.
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Found this jeep on craigslist near your area. Best of both worlds. Rubicon with only 43,000 miles and cheaper then both of them.
**2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon*
Well crapo, the Rubicon Unlimited on craigslist sold before I could get ahold of the guy. That was really a good deal.........
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Well crapo, the Rubicon Unlimited on craigslist sold before I could get ahold of the guy. That was really a good deal.........
Wow lol that was only posted 6 days ago too. That was pretty damn quick
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look around. there was an lj rubi by me with 9k on it and sold for 21k. i got a regular lj becuase im not going to need heavy duty stuff. i might put a track lock in the front since the rear has limited slip. i got mine for 10k with 99k on the clock and its the exact trim i wanted. look around and your jeep will find you. when it does buy it before someone gets it.
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Well, like some politicians say, I was for the Rubicon but I really meant I was for the Tan Wrangler because it is newer, has many less miles, doesn't show dirt...

Keep Connie happy...maybe someday she will get you a Rubi. I was looking for a $3000, 100,000 mile semi-project Wrangler and my wife bought me a brandy new 2011 customized to my specs. Happy Home!
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after spending literally tens of thousands of dollars on mods for various trucks, XJs, and now my TJ, my experience is that you should always, always buy whatever vehicle you are looking at with the largest spec option numbers available. if you have the option of a V8, get the V8, the option of gear ratios in the 4s, get the 4s...you get the idea.

all else being equal or at least reasonable; bigger is always better. Even if you never really need it, the re-sale alone is worth it.

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