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Old 01-08-2008, 11:42 PM   #1
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some lighting ?'s help and advice

ok i have a few questions and need some of your guy's and girls help

ok first question i wanna upgrade my stock headlights to a H4 conversion with crisp and clear WHITE lights not blue lights on a green jeep and i wanna run 90w lows and 130w high bulbs is this going to hurt my jeep and possibly screw something up (i wanna run these and a set of 55w back up lights after almost crushing a miata in the parking lot of the mall and some winshield lights with 100w bulbs)

second question: i hate the people that have white or blue head lights and yellish fog lights my tj came from the factory with fog lights and there great but with the white headlights it will look shitty with the fog lights being yellow so here is my question can i change the bulbs in my factory fog lights?

Third question: would all this be to much and would i half to maybe go with a optima red top battery?

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lol i've driven a miata and now drive a lifted wrangler. A miata is as tall as a go cart.. i think you might need a rear view camera to see those

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Old 01-09-2008, 11:44 AM   #3
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it was funny my gf is a horrible back seat driver and she was like hey do you know there is a car back there i was like what she got out and looked and i was no joke like half an inch away from the fender i was like oops! so now iam going to get some back up lights i think i would have been alright but all the windows are limo tint so that was the problem
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Check your local code to ensure 90w/130w is legal.

Getting a good housing is as important as the H4 bulb itself.

As for lighting colors, halogens will be yellowish. Even silverstars are not white enough. I come from a BMW and Audi where I had 4200k xenon. If you are wanting WHITE light, get a proper HID kit. I put a HID kit in my truck and it has true ballasts and you can get it at a 6000k color range if you want.

Something like this should work for H4 housings...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-X...6465QQtcZphoto

Keep in mind though - you'll only have low beams. No highs. A true HID kit with low and high beams will NOT be cheap.

You can get HID's for your fogs too, but mounting the ballasts would be a PITA for that. your best bet would be silverstars.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:15 PM   #5
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Nowhere in the US is anything brighter than 55watts legal. That said, properly aimed headlights like the 90w/130w are run on our highways all the time without problem. Properly aimed, they are not a problem and it's highly doubtful you would ever get pulled over because of them.

The only problem is if your state has mandatory inspections like are so common in many of the Eastern states where they might actually look to see if your headlights "look funny". If they do notice them, they'd start looking for the DOT certification which of course be missing. But unless your TJ actually gets a thorough inspection, odds are slim to none of having a problem running 90w/130w headlights, as I did myself for years.

The bigger issue is those lights draw double the amperes of the OE lights so you should install an upgraded headlight wiring harness kit. Don't start sweating at that recommendation since such harness kits are plug and play, they are a very easy installation with no special electrical skills needed other than common sense and the ability to read simple instructions. The upgraded wiring harness also eliminates the additional amperes from passing through your headlight switch which would otherwise kill it. In fact, it reduces the load on your headlight switch which will make it last longer... especially since the TJ's headlight switch has a slight history of failing even with the factory headlights.

I don't have a link here at work but a quick Yahoo or Google search for upgraded headlight wiring harnesses will produce quick results.
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Nowhere in the US is anything brighter than 55watts legal. That said, properly aimed headlights like the 90w/130w are run on our highways all the time without problem. Properly aimed, they are not a problem and it's highly doubtful you would ever get pulled over because of them.

The only problem is if your state has mandatory inspections like are so common in many of the Eastern states where they might actually look to see if your headlights "look funny". If they do notice them, they'd start looking for the DOT certification which of course be missing. But unless your TJ actually gets a thorough inspection, odds are slim to none of having a problem running 90w/130w headlights, as I did myself for years.

The bigger issue is those lights draw double the amperes of the OE lights so you should install an upgraded headlight wiring harness kit. Don't start sweating at that recommendation since such harness kits are plug and play, they are a very easy installation with no special electrical skills needed other than common sense and the ability to read simple instructions. The upgraded wiring harness also eliminates the additional amperes from passing through your headlight switch which would otherwise kill it. In fact, it reduces the load on your headlight switch which will make it last longer... especially since the TJ's headlight switch has a slight history of failing even with the factory headlights.

I don't have a link here at work but a quick Yahoo or Google search for upgraded headlight wiring harnesses will produce quick results.




wow thanks for all the info jerry you said that you have ran the 90/130s for years with out any concerns. Was that with or without the wiring up grade i just don''t wanna get this stuff here and then be dealing with all these wiring issues and problems thats all ,and my state doesn't have anything like checks. i think maybe once i have ever herd in my part of Ohio that they had a vehicle check so that doesn't bother me at all and if they did i would be in a lot of trouble with my camaro so the cops don't bother me but an electrical fire would be a bad time i just don't wanna screw something up!!
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I first installed them using the OE wiring harness. The OE harness wasn't getting hot or anything but I eventually decided to upgrade to the aftermarket harness just using common sense about the doubled amperage load. The lights were noticeably brighter after installing the upgraded wiring harness that includes a pair of relays to better carry the increase amperage load. I did one side at a time then turned the lights on, the side with the harness was definitely brighter.

It's definitely a good idea to upgrade the harness with headlights with twice the wattage rating as the OE wiring harness was only designed with 55 watts in mind.

Here's where I purchased my upgraded plug-in wiring harness from. http://www.suvlights.com/index.php?cPath=24_73

The new harness just plugs into the old headlight connectors, and you plug the headlight bulbs into the new connectors, plus connect a wire to the battery. Very easy.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:28 PM   #8
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ok i got it now that clear a lot up thanks you very much for all the good info!!!

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