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Old 07-18-2010, 05:06 PM   #1
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Soundbar/audio question

Besides upgrading the headunit in my jeep, I am looking to increase and and get quality music from high level speakers. The more I up the volume to cover road and wind noise with the top down I get the muffled bass sounds on the stock speakers. Knowing the bass is too high for the speakers at the high volume levels.

Besides changing out the stock speakers in the dash and soundbar, I was wondering if anyone has added an additional soundbar in the rear to add two small subs as apposed to a stealthpod or a subwoofer in the trunk. Also, I am wondering about adding aftermarket tweeters in my 06 TJ, as apposed to just adding new speakers.

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best bet is to upgrade the headunit, just getting better speakers isn't going do much at all.

and there is no sound bar that has enough room to add a sub, i would go no smaller than a 10" sub.

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I already have my headunit in the car but distortion is my worst nightmare when I crank up the volume to counter the road and wind noise. Where is the best place to put the sub in the car without taking up any or too much space?
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Most of that distortion you are getting is from the headunit. It's sending out more power than the factory one. You need to play with the EQ settings on the headunit to turn down the bass and if it has a High Pass Filter, you need to adjust that as well. Even though my speakers are upgraded they'd distort before I messed with the EQ. Now I can turn them up pretty damn loud without issues.
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Ok, what speakers are you running in your jeep? I would just like the effects that I had with my old 06 stratus that I had 2 "12 Pioneer Champion Series Subs. I would just like to get that thump back into the ride without getting too crazy.

Where is a good place to have my sub if I decide to run one?
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A lot of people put subs behind the rear seat, which is about the only place other than putting it in the rear seat bottom, but that requires a bit of work. IF I plan on putting in a sub, it's just going to be a self powered unit like a tube or something.

My speakers are some $40 Pioneer 6.5's in the soundbar and some Kenwood 4x6's in the dash.
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i would go no smaller than a 10" sub.
I ALMOST agree with this. There are exceptions to everything though. In this case, my buddy put 2 8" kicker solobarics (the square ones) in his f350, and they sounded clean and hit hard for little baby speakers. No distortion and pretty deep bass for 8 inches. I just sold my 10" solobaric because it took up too much room. I plan on putting in 2 of these 8 inchers in because it will save me room and put off some good bass.
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Where would you put those subs? In the trunk or under the seat?
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Where is a good place to have my sub if I decide to run one?
Like Az said, a sub behind the backseat is a good place. I think this is where you will be the most satisfied, with the least amount of work. There is plenty of room to put a good sounding sub back there. If you are willing to do more work, the subs in the bottom of the rear seat look good and take up less room.
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Where would you put those subs? In the trunk or under the seat?
I would put them behind the seat. No sub will fit under the seat. The subs Az and I referred to are actually built INTO the rear seat. I will see if I can find you a link to the build.
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Thanks! do you have an amp to power those speakers or are they powerful enough off the headunit?
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I ALMOST agree with this. There are exceptions to everything though. In this case, my buddy put 2 8" kicker solobarics (the square ones) in his f350, and they sounded clean and hit hard for little baby speakers. No distortion and pretty deep bass for 8 inches. I just sold my 10" solobaric because it took up too much room. I plan on putting in 2 of these 8 inchers in because it will save me room and put off some good bass.
8's are too small, the smaller the sub the higher the frequency range, and 8 is way to high, 10 would be the minimum. a decent set of component speakers will be able to hit most of the low notes that a 8 would put out.
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Thanks! do you have an amp to power those speakers or are they powerful enough off the headunit?
Just about every sub will require an amp for the best sound.
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I'm asking mostly about those pioneer and kenwood speakers that you put into your dash and soundbar. I have seen on youtube that people put the subs under the seat and wonder how much work is needed for it.

That link would be great if you can find it.
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8's are too small, the smaller the sub the higher the frequency range, and 8 is way to high, 10 would be the minimum. a decent set of component speakers will be able to hit most of the low notes that a 8 would put out.
You are right about the frequency range going up with the smaller sub. However I never heard a set of components that could hit as hard as those Kicker 8s hit.
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they don't "hit" like a sub they can just produce the same frequency. and kickers 8's sound like crap if you ask me, its just to high pitch for a sub, move up to a 10 and you will have something that sound a bit better.
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Would a 10" fit in the rear seat?
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you can fit a shallow 10" sub.
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only a shallow mount 10 may fit in it. A normal 10 will fit behind the seat. Check out the link I posted in post 12. That will give you an explanation of an in-seat install
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i think you are best off building a box to fit behind the rear seat.
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i think you are best off building a box to fit behind the rear seat.
I agree. Although building an in-seat sub will save space, you will probably be more pleased with the outcome of a sub behind the seat. Also building a box for behind the seat wont be quite as involved as an in-seat install.
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and when building your own box you can cut it to size to meet the suggested space from the manufacturer, and if you add a port you can have it tuned to the right frequency.


here is a link to FREE box designs, some people and web sites charge up to $50 just for the design.

i used one of the designs to build my enclosure to spec.

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