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Old 12-20-2011, 09:10 AM   #1
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Spare Keys... Wish I had known....

Just put this in the 'What I did to my TJ today' thread.. Thought I would post it here too.

Extra Keys! We got keys! Expensive proposition IMHO for such a simple thing. Went the on line route to get the chipped keys ($18ea), then paid a locksmith a total of $65 to cut and program. That was after I found out they were chipped, the two I had made at Lowes are now hidden on the outside to get into the car and one is hidden inside.

Had I known (according to the locksmith) all I had to do was tape (hide) the chipped key I already had near the ignition switch the unchipped cheapie keys I had made at Lowes for $3.00 would have worked, I would have done that!!!

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Old 12-20-2011, 09:22 AM   #2
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Some how I don't think that would work...

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It should work if you can get the chipped key close enough to the sensor. I'm going to try it......
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Chipped keys? Sounds to fancy for a Jeep. Does my 2001 Wrangler have a chipped key?
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Chipped keys? Sounds to fancy for a Jeep. Does my 2001 Wrangler have a chipped key?
When you turn ur jeep on is there a light on ur cluster of a key with a ghoastbusters symbol around it? Its on the left side. If so, you have a chipped key.
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Chipped keys? Sounds to fancy for a Jeep. Does my 2001 Wrangler have a chipped key?
IF your key is grey, you have a chipped key. If its black, you don't.
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I just tried it to find out. You gotta get it close. I held it against the lower housing between the wheel and the ignition switch and it worked. It did not work when it was more 3" from the switch, but it did work when it was closer. If I were to do it, I would just drop the lower half of the housing the switch is in and hot glue the chipped key in there. It would work fine there. So it DOES work!
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:30 PM   #8
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mine is not chipped =) (2001)
i got 2 keys made for 5 bucks at home depot.
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:52 PM   #9
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use the cheap keys, just attach the old chipped key to the key chain. It was an option on some TJ's, PITA for getting keys made.
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I just tried it to find out. You gotta get it close. I held it against the lower housing between the wheel and the ignition switch and it worked. It did not work when it was more 3" from the switch, but it did work when it was closer. If I were to do it, I would just drop the lower half of the housing the switch is in and hot glue the chipped key in there. It would work fine there. So it DOES work!
I would strongly encourage you NOT to defeat the factory anti-theft system that the chipped key represents.

We had some scumbags try and borrow our 04 without our permission one night. They used a slim jim to get the doors unlocked, popped the ignition cylinder and got the t-case in neutral so they could push it down the street away from the streetlight to start it.

We found it there the next morning, had it hauled to the dealer to get everything fixed and the SKIM reset.

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Old 12-24-2011, 09:04 AM   #11
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I don't disagree with you. But heck, I leave the keys in mine most of the time. All of them, except the Porsche and the boats!
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Hold on folks! If you have a chipped key, check your manual. On mine, you can add up to 8 keys I think to your car just by following the steps in the owners manual.

You need to buy the keys, but may not cost you anything to program.
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Using a chipped key fixed very near the ignition works....

I did this on a 2001 Focus. $110 for a key wasn't going to happen! I took the only transponder key I had and zip-tied it to the ignition switch inside the column and used a $2 key to start and unlock my doors.

The key is the positioning of the key to make it work.

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Hold on folks! If you have a chipped key, check your manual. On mine, you can add up to 8 keys I think to your car just by following the steps in the owners manual.

You need to buy the keys, but may not cost you anything to program.
This works for a 3rd key and so on... if you only have one transponder key, you cannot make a 2nd......

This is for MOST vehicles with transponder keys
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I know my buddy's jeep had a transponder key too, but he had all his jeep keys on the same key chain so he could start it with his other jeep key, but i guess just being on the same keyring with it was close enough for it to work properly.
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Hold on folks! If you have a chipped key, check your manual. On mine, you can add up to 8 keys I think to your car just by following the steps in the owners manual.

You need to buy the keys, but may not cost you anything to program.
you need 2 to make more. just got the wife an 07 compass that came with 1 key. went to ace-they say they can make them and they can-just work 1/2 a$$ed. dealers charge $100+ for a key. Luckily i spoke to the service mngr 1st and he told me to pitch a bit** with the salesman. got the 2nd key free, got 2 off of ebay(around $20 each) and $2 for ace to cut them. did the programing through the ignition and now have 4 keys. also got a plain one cut just in case i lock the keys in the jeep(always carry spares in wallet) it works fine for the door and glovebox-but that's all. sad part-when dealers get a trade in, they take 1 key and toss the others(if any) in a box full of other ones-least that's what this dealer did-saw the box, bout a ft square, full--probably a small fortune sitting there.
feel a little safer with it as the wife leaves her vehicles unlocked alot of the time. down side, the cipped keys don't fit in the wallet too good
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:54 PM   #16
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Mopar's system must be different that Toyota's. Our '02 4-Runner only came with one key and I was able to program a 2nd.
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Old 12-26-2011, 09:54 AM   #17
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this is out of wifes 07 compass manual and i would assume(usually a bad thing to do) that it applys to all jeeps that have this system


Sentry Key Programming
You can program new keys to the system if you have two
valid sentry keys by performing the following procedure:
1. Cut the additional Sentry Key Transponder blank(s) to
match the ignition switch lock cylinder key code.
2. Insert the first valid key into the ignition switch and
turn the ignition switch ON for at least 3 seconds but no
longer than 15 seconds. Turn the ignition switch OFF and
remove the first key.
3. Insert the second valid key and turn the ignition
switch ON within 15 seconds. After ten seconds a chime
will sound and the Theft Alarm Light will begin to flash.
Turn the ignition switch OFF and remove the second key.
4. Insert a blank Sentry Key into the ignition switch and
turn the ignition switch ON within 60 seconds. After 10
seconds a single chime will sound. The Theft Alarm Light
will stop flashing, turn on for 3 seconds; then turn off.
The new Sentry Key has been programmed.
Repeat this procedure to program up to a total of 8 keys.
If you do not have a programmed sentry key, contact your dealer for details.

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Hiding the key near the steering column should work because thats what the remote starter Installers do to make the remote starter to work when you have that type of key. They usually ask you for the valet key that you get when the vehicle is new( somehow thats the first to be lost)thats only good for the door and ign its not supposed to open any other locks.
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Some how I don't think that would work...
It really does work. I had a Ram SRT10 with a busted casing and it was the only key I had. Taped it under the dash and used a key from Home Depot until I replaced the casing with an empty one from ebay. Stealership wanted $150 per.

If it is a key that has the whole circuit board chip you can get key blanks off ebay for about 10 bucks each and just move the circuit board to the net housing blank and have Home Depot or Lowes cut them. If they give you a hard time just ask to talk to the manager.
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When I had the one made for our 4-Runner I had a hard time convincing the guy at the hardware store to cut the key. I had bought the key off ebay. I just needed him to cut it so I could reprogram it. He kept saying "It won't work" I kept saying "Just cut the key please".
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Since when did his pride become more important than money???
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Hiding the key near the steering column should work because thats what the remote starter Installers do to make the remote starter to work when you have that type of key. They usually ask you for the valet key that you get when the vehicle is new( somehow thats the first to be lost)thats only good for the door and ign its not supposed to open any other locks.
Kinda but not exAct. We put the key in a bypass module. It's a small box we hide under the dash, it's 12 volt powered and has a lead off it ending in a loop, that is looped around the ignition. This sends the code to turn off the factory anti theft. You can always purchase one of these, about 65 bucks and install in with power, to bypass the chip key problem. Allowing you to use a cheapie non chipped key.
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Since when did his pride become more important than money???
You've got me. I guess he was afraid I was going to want my 99 cents back when it didn't work.
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this is out of wifes 07 compass manual and i would assume(usually a bad thing to do) that it applys to all jeeps that have this system

Sentry Key Programming
You can program new keys to the system if you have two
valid sentry keys by performing the following procedure:
1. Cut the additional Sentry Key Transponder blank(s) to
match the ignition switch lock cylinder key code.
2. Insert the first valid key into the ignition switch and
turn the ignition switch ON for at least 3 seconds but no
longer than 15 seconds. Turn the ignition switch OFF and
remove the first key.
3. Insert the second valid key and turn the ignition
switch ON within 15 seconds. After ten seconds a chime
will sound and the Theft Alarm Light will begin to flash.
Turn the ignition switch OFF and remove the second key.
4. Insert a blank Sentry Key into the ignition switch and
turn the ignition switch ON within 60 seconds. After 10
seconds a single chime will sound. The Theft Alarm Light
will stop flashing, turn on for 3 seconds; then turn off.
The new Sentry Key has been programmed.
Repeat this procedure to program up to a total of 8 keys.
If you do not have a programmed sentry key, contact your dealer for details.
Same exact wording as in the 2002 wrangler manual, ordering my spares today.
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Update: did my own keys with no problem in less than 5 minutes.
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I just tried it to find out. You gotta get it close. I held it against the lower housing between the wheel and the ignition switch and it worked. It did not work when it was more 3" from the switch, but it did work when it was closer. If I were to do it, I would just drop the lower half of the housing the switch is in and hot glue the chipped key in there. It would work fine there. So it DOES work!
There was guy on tv that had the chip inserted in his hand and had a push start ignition. No keys needed.
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If you hide the chip key be sure to cut the key part off! That way you are not giving the key to a rumaging thief. Chip will still work!
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sad part-when dealers get a trade in, they take 1 key and toss the others(if any) in a box full of other ones-least that's what this dealer did-saw the box, bout a ft square, full--probably a small fortune sitting there.
Quite possibly the craziest thing I've ever heard! Lol
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Quite possibly the craziest thing I've ever heard! Lol
i kinda thought so too. i trade in a vehicle there is a min of 4 keys with it-pi$$er knowing they probably toss em-even reg keys, sure the next owner would appreciate it.
luckily i talked to the service mngr 1st and told him i just bought the jeep(was looking for cost after i returned the semi-working key from ace) and he was the one that suggested complaining. they only wanted $120 for one. $45 is alot better than the $165 it would have cost me to do the same thing paying for the 2nd key.
and ppl wonder why new vehicles cost so much-$20 here, $100 there-it adds up. took my hd2500 in for a power tow mirror($465)-showed the dealer which one(didn't always retract-but it messed up for him)-mech said it was the other one and wouldn't listen to either of us-dealer said fine and told me i'd just have to come back for the other one acting up later. basically got both new motors on their dime instead of the one needed.
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