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Old 07-07-2008, 02:06 PM   #1
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spare tire?

hi, if i am trying to put a matching spare tire on the back of my tj, would i need the spacer to use the factory holder with a 33" tire? i have a factory bumper and i don't want to spend 350 bucks on a swing out tire carrier. so the question is, spacer or no spacer?

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You CAN however it might rip it off. The factory carrier is simply not that strong. Many have successfully ran 33s on the stock carrier however many have ripped it off. Why not get a tire carrier that mounts to the body if you dont want to do the bumper? Its a bit cheaper...

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Old 07-07-2008, 02:14 PM   #3
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On my 2000 TJ, my 33 x 12.5 on 15x10's w/4"bs, fit just fine. However, if you plan on doing any moderate to hard offroading, you could be risking your tailgate, as the weight is considerably heavier. Some people had no problems, but my tailgate started to sag after one light trip in 3 months
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btw how wide is your tire zpratt?
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:42 PM   #5
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btw how wide is your tire zpratt?
I have 33x12.50x15's. The tire I have on the back right now is only a 30x9.50. if i don't do any major offroading, would it be fine?
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If you're lucky and your streets are glazed, nor you open the trunk you might be fine but why risk it?
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:48 PM   #7
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On my 2000 TJ, my 33 x 12.5 on 15x10's w/4"bs, fit just fine. However, if you plan on doing any moderate to hard offroading, you could be risking your tailgate, as the weight is considerably heavier. Some people had no problems, but my tailgate started to sag after one light trip in 3 months
what do you mean it started to sag?
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Why not get a tire carrier that mounts to the body if you dont want to do the bumper? Its a bit cheaper...
what kind of tire carrier are you talking about, and where would i find that?
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Old 07-07-2008, 02:59 PM   #9
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Boosted price since its from qtec but something like this.
http://www.quadratec.com/products/12203_01_07.htm

You can try one of these but i dont know how well the tail gate will take them so i cant comment on durability for that. 32s max though...
http://www.quadratec.com/products/12008_910X_PG.htm
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:31 PM   #10
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I have the classic rock rear bumper with tire carrier. I paid around $250 for it. It's working out great hauling a steel 15x8 with a 33x12.50. The carrier is actually mounted to the bumper, and it has a built in tow hitch. My stock tailgate started acting a little funny opening and closing when I had a 31x10.50 bfg at on an aluminum wheel.
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Hard to open

I had a 33x12.50x15 on my 97 TJ just on the stock mount. It did great for the first while but after some good wheeling trips the tailgate was drooping so much that it actually became hard to open the tailgate. And by hard I mean you would have to lean all your body weight into the gate just to get it opened or closed. I can't say I would recommend going this route. I would definitely get some type of aftermarket tire carrier. If you do decide to go this way though I just removed the rubber stock pieces from the tailgate and the tire fit on fine... also didn't cost anything!
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I'm running a 33x12.50x15 on the Olympic Extended Heavy Duty Tire Carrier. It bolts into place where your stock stamped tire carrier attached to your gate. It has provisions to reattach your third brake light as well. It's made out of 1/4" steel and is extremely heavy duty. I don't have a link, but I got it from JC Whitney (beware) for $87 shipped.

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Yes, the tire carrier is no doubt heavy duty, don't worry about that. You're still mounting it to the thin metal of the tailgate. Some people have had experiences with the metal fatiguing and slowly tearing, and others have had problems with tailgates that are hard to open/close due to the hinges wearing out with the additional weight of the tire/wheel.

Are you wanting to run steel wheels or alloys? My 33's on 15x8 Eagle Alloys are surprisingly lighter than you'd imagine. I have no problems hoisting the tire/wheel combo up and down from the carrier by myself even with 5 1/4" of suspension/body lift, not to mention the additional lift given by the 33" tires. If you're running steelies, they can get pretty heavy.

Are you doing alot of rough off-roading where the additional weight of a heavier tire/wheel combo is going to really affect your gate?

I haven't had any issues with my new carrier and heavier tire/wheel setup. None with the gate sagging or of the metal tearing. HOWEVER.......it's a 2005, so the gate really hasn't had enough time/use to start wearing out at the hinge bushings. AND, the setup is still new. I've only had it installed for about a month. We'll see how it holds up over time. I'm not worried about the carrier, like I said, it's definately heavy duty. I'm worried about how it's going to be a year from now after taking it wheeling and beating it up a bit.

Good luck and hopefully some of the information you receive here on the forum will help with your decision.
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I'm running a 33x12.50x15 on the Olympic Extended Heavy Duty Tire Carrier. It bolts into place where your stock stamped tire carrier attached to your gate. It has provisions to reattach your third brake light as well. It's made out of 1/4" steel and is extremely heavy duty. I don't have a link, but I got it from JC Whitney (beware) for $87 shipped.

Things to think about......
Yes, the tire carrier is no doubt heavy duty, don't worry about that. You're still mounting it to the thin metal of the tailgate. Some people have had experiences with the metal fatiguing and slowly tearing, and others have had problems with tailgates that are hard to open/close due to the hinges wearing out with the additional weight of the tire/wheel.

Are you wanting to run steel wheels or alloys? My 33's on 15x8 Eagle Alloys are surprisingly lighter than you'd imagine. I have no problems hoisting the tire/wheel combo up and down from the carrier by myself even with 5 1/4" of suspension/body lift, not to mention the additional lift given by the 33" tires. If you're running steelies, they can get pretty heavy.

Are you doing alot of rough off-roading where the additional weight of a heavier tire/wheel combo is going to really affect your gate?

I haven't had any issues with my new carrier and heavier tire/wheel setup. None with the gate sagging or of the metal tearing. HOWEVER.......it's a 2005, so the gate really hasn't had enough time/use to start wearing out at the hinge bushings. AND, the setup is still new. I've only had it installed for about a month. We'll see how it holds up over time. I'm not worried about the carrier, like I said, it's definately heavy duty. I'm worried about how it's going to be a year from now after taking it wheeling and beating it up a bit.

Good luck and hopefully some of the information you receive here on the forum will help with your decision.

Thanks alot for all the information. i am running steel wheels and the weight of the wheel and tire together is almost too much for me to lift up by myself to put on the back of my jeep... so yeah it definetly gets heavy. i don't do much 4-wheeling. the main purpose for wanting a matching spare is because i think it looks good, also it would be nice to have a wheel i could use instead of a smaller tire. i guess the only thing that worrys me about the whole situation is how my tailgate will react to the weight. i don't really want to try to save money now by buying something cheaper to end up having to buy a whole new tailgate, but at the same time i don't want to spend alot on an expensive tire carrier. i guess i'll look into it a little more. i got some time to make up my mind. anyways thanks alot for all the info.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:28 AM   #14
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I have an 02 TJ w/ a 33 on the stock carrier. I had to remove the 3rd brake light to get it to fit, and the only reason I haven't had trouble is I don't drive her many miles. My tailgate is already tough to open, but I have a swingaway waiting in the garage to be installed, so hopefully no perm damage to the gate.

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