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Old 06-08-2013, 02:21 PM   #1
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Speaker recommendations

I'm looking to upgrade my speaker in a 2002 TJ. I want new better speakers in the dash and the sound bar. Oh and btw I have no desire to break the bank........thanks guys

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Go to Crutchfield.com. You can enter your vehicle and filter your search. Polk Audio makes some reasonable priced replacements.

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If just trying to be cheap, Polk or Pioneer A series. U can usually find the Polk's for around 50. Anything is an upgrade over factory. If u have not upgraded your receiver, that should be your first priority. The factory one is horrible
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If just trying to be cheap, Polk or Pioneer A series. U can usually find the Polk's for around 50. Anything is an upgrade over factory. If u have not upgraded your receiver, that should be your first priority. The factory one is horrible
Do you recommend a receiver?
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Polk DB 6521 6.5" in the soundbar (direct fit, no mods needed) and whatever Polk's DB series 5.25" round speaker is using a 4x6 to 5.25" round speaker adapter bracket like from Nalin at TJ 5.25 Speaker Adapters

Caution that your 4x6 front speakers are NOT a standard 4x6 size, they have a different bolt pattern and it is a royal PITA to get aftermarket 4x6 speakers installed.

Not to mention that round 5.25" coaxial speakers sound better than oval 4x6 speakers.

Be aware that with a stock head unit which doesn't put out much power, it is absolutely critical you get speakers that don't require a lot of power to drive to full volume. Polk's DB series work well, sound good, and don't require more power than your stock head unit can put out.

Most aftermarket speakers require more power than your stock head unit can put out which means they won't sound good.
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Polk DB 6521 6.5" in the soundbar (direct fit, no mods needed) and whatever Polk's DB series 5.25" round speaker is using a 4x6 to 5.25" round speaker adapter bracket like from Nalin at TJ 5.25 Speaker Adapters

Caution that your 4x6 front speakers are NOT a standard 4x6 size, they have a different bolt pattern and it is a royal PITA to get aftermarket 4x6 speakers installed.

Not to mention that round 5.25" coaxial speakers sound better than oval 4x6 speakers.

Be aware that with a stock head unit which doesn't put out much power, it is absolutely critical you get speakers that don't require a lot of power to drive to full volume. Polk's DB series work well, sound good, and don't require more power than your stock head unit can put out.

Most aftermarket speakers require more power than your stock head unit can put out which means they won't sound good.
Thanks for the advice. I am also looking to upgrade my speakers and receiver.
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Stand-alone receivers don't put out much power either, stay with a high sensitivity speaker like the above recommended Polk DB series.

Don't make the mistake of misreading speaker ads or specifications... for example, a speaker rated to 250 watts doesn't necessarily make it louder than one rated to, say, 75 watts when connected to the same power amplifier. That is because higher power speakers take more power to drive them to a suitable listening level. Get a speaker whose power expectations are the same as what your receiver can put out... the speaker's "Sensitivity" rating can provide a guideline if it will work ok for a receiver without an extra external amplifier. A Sensitivity rating of 90 dB (decibel) or higher means it is sensitive enough for lower power systems. Polk's DB series Sensitivity rating is something like 92 dB IIRC.
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Stand-alone receivers don't put out much power either, stay with a high sensitivity speaker like the above recommended Polk DB series.

Don't make the mistake of misreading speaker ads or specifications... for example, a speaker rated to 250 watts doesn't necessarily make it louder than one rated to, say, 75 watts when connected to the same power amplifier. That is because higher power speakers take more power to drive them to a suitable listening level. Get a speaker whose power expectations are the same as what your receiver can put out... the speaker's "Sensitivity" rating can provide a guideline if it will work ok for a receiver without an extra external amplifier. A Sensitivity rating of 90 dB (decibel) or higher means it is sensitive enough for lower power systems. Polk's DB series Sensitivity rating is something like 92 dB IIRC.
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Just about any after market receiver will do the job. I use alpine but Kenwood, Pioneer, jvc, clarion, any of them will work and will put out 16-22 watts rms. The max power ratings don't matter.
The factory head unit is truly horrible.
If u decide to use 4x6, it's best to use plate speakers. They fit with ease and have great sound but most plates will require an amp to sound great.
The 5.25 will require you to do some cutting on the dash but the overall sound without an amp will be much better than the 4x6. Get the adapter, do some cutting and install the 5.25.
Good luck
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Just about any after market receiver will do the job. I use alpine but Kenwood, Pioneer, jvc, clarion, any of them will work and will put out 16-22 watts rms. The max power ratings don't matter.
The factory head unit is truly horrible.
If u decide to use 4x6, it's best to use plate speakers. They fit with ease and have great sound but most plates will require an amp to sound great.
The 5.25 will require you to do some cutting on the dash but the overall sound without an amp will be much better than the 4x6. Get the adapter, do some cutting and install the 5.25.
Good luck
5.25 Polk db fit fine without cutting the dash just installed mine 30mins ago
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What year is your jeep? 97-02 require you to cut the dash. He has an 02, he will have to cut his dash!
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What year is your jeep? 97-02 require you to cut the dash. He has an 02, he will have to cut his dash!
Ahh i see ya mines an 04
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Memphis sounds great. replaced all ours with em.
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I was looking at the Polk db 651 in a 6.5". My stock sound bar speakers are 5 1/4. Will the 6.5 fit? I have 2002 x
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Don't know about yous for sure but I pulled 5-1/4" out of my sound bar and they had a lot of wiggle room. 6.5" went back in with no cutting needed. You could always pull one out and measure. Note most speakers have the actual dimensions of their mounting specs on the box or online. Not all 6.5" have to have a 6.5" hole.
Ie: kicker ds65's are 6.5's that need a 5.5" mounting hole. Hope this helps
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I was looking at the Polk db 651 in a 6.5". My stock sound bar speakers are 5 1/4. Will the 6.5 fit? I have 2002 x
It was already said several times above the 6.5" will fit.
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Thanks Jerry. I ordered 6.5 Polks today
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I just recently did a stereo upgrade on the cheap. MTX 5 1/4" 2 ways in the soundbar and dash, JVC media receiver, and a Sound Ordinance compact 8" sub. I ordered the speakers and dash brackets from MTXaudio.com (before I had found the post about Nalin - sorry ). Everything else came from Crutchfield.

System sounds awesome for the money! The receiver has enough power for the speakers to play loud and clean for highway trips with the sliders out. The sub has just enough punch to remind you it's there, but not enough to announce your arrival in the neighborhood. I wanted to round out the bottom end, nothing more. The sub fits perfectly under the bench seat and can't be seen. I had to use a Dremmel to cut some dash bracing to fit the 5 1/4s in. It was covered in the documentation that came with the brackets. I also sacrificed 2 pillows and stuffed polyfill in the soundbar and in the dash around the speakers.

No regrets.

JVC KD-X250BT Digital media receiver at Crutchfield.com

Sound Ordnance B-8PTD 125-watt compact powered subwoofer at Crutchfield.com

MTX TDX52 Thunder Dome Series 5-1/4" 2-way speakers at Crutchfield.com
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I just recently did a stereo upgrade on the cheap. MTX 5 1/4" 2 ways in the soundbar and dash, JVC media receiver, and a Sound Ordinance compact 8" sub. I ordered the speakers and dash brackets from MTXaudio.com (before I had found the post about Nalin - sorry ). Everything else came from Crutchfield.

System sounds awesome for the money! The receiver has enough power for the speakers to play loud and clean for highway trips with the sliders out. The sub has just enough punch to remind you it's there, but not enough to announce your arrival in the neighborhood. I wanted to round out the bottom end, nothing more. The sub fits perfectly under the bench seat and can't be seen. I had to use a Dremmel to cut some dash bracing to fit the 5 1/4s in. It was covered in the documentation that came with the brackets. I also sacrificed 2 pillows and stuffed polyfill in the soundbar and in the dash around the speakers.

No regrets.

JVC KD-X250BT Digital media receiver at Crutchfield.com

Sound Ordnance B-8PTD 125-watt compact powered subwoofer at Crutchfield.com

MTX TDX52 Thunder Dome Series 5-1/4" 2-way speakers at Crutchfield.com
Thanks man, good write up!
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You can put 6.5"s in 97-02 soundbars without issue. The 03-06 sound pods are molded to fit 5.25"s; 6.5" have been made to fit, but it's a lot of work.

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