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Old 01-02-2011, 09:50 AM   #31
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I had my Jeep checked for accuracy, although not fixed, to compensate for slightly over sized tires that were originally on it. Would've cost $65 to fix at that shop here in Michigan.
Check it against a GPS. Simple. If you don't have a GPS, borrow one. Don't pay a shop to check it for accuracy, chances are they're just using a GPS then charging you for it......

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The laws are addressing the speed of the vehicle, not what your speedometer reading is, not tire size, or what you might have for dinner tomorrow.

At least in Calif you don't need a speedometer at all!

The laws pertain to how fast you are going - regardless of any excuse.
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Did the guy come to court to testify on your behalf? I have had a few "fix it tickets" in California and every single time, all you have to do is bring proof of the repair and have an officer sign off and verify it.

no he didnt but he did give me a legal document that said he performed the service. Me, him, and my attorney signed it and the judge looked at it and shrugged and set it aside, not taking a second look at it. Probably because of my speed. BUT if he was to take into consideration the calibration on the document, I was actually travelling 89MPH. Which would have eliminated the possibility of jailtime. But he didnt; he ignored the document and continued to throw the book at me.

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If you have a four banger like me your guaranteed to never get a reckless ticket. Now could have gotten one the other day in my friends camero. But I wasent driving. How much jail time is a little?
I have a 4.0L. I usually stay away from the highways. I think the only time I could get another ticket is on regular 3 or 4 lane roads in the area where the speed liimit is 45. I find myself around 50-55 is the most comfortable speed in my Jeep. Albeit, slower than highway speeds and faster than regular road speeds. I'm extremely speed conscious now; even on my sportbike I still keep it within 5-10 of the speed limit.

I was sentenced to 6 days consecutive on Jan13, 2010. My attorney got it dropped to 3 days - Fri, Sat, Sun. It was a low point in my life. It was just a speeding ticket, but something about being incarcerated and losing 3 days of your life can really eat away at you. Needless to say, lesson well learnt.
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I went from the original 30" tires on my 2001 Sahara to 31" tires and my speedometer still reads 1 mph higher than most of the road side radar signs. Always wondered how much higher it would be reading with the 30" tires. I knew my older GM cars usually read 2-3 MPH higher than what I would calculate from the mile markers on the highways but I thought most newer vehicles were closer than that.
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a lot of people are saying that they dont think my tires will make much a different on my speedometer and that they dont think it will fly in court....when i was pulled over the officer said quote word for word "if you go get your speedo recalibrated and bring your receipt to court then your ticket will be dropped even if its only 1 mph off" the reason he said even if it was a mile an hour off is because he told me that if i was doin 35mpg he wouldnt have pulled me over because of that grace period that a previous person posted a few posts ago. so even if it is one mile an hour off then it will work...
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Sorry to sound like a prick but....since nobody else will say it I will...in my opinion folks like this are the reason all of our insurance rates are higher....

Grace period? What are you talking about? I don't know about where you live but I have PLENTY of friends that are county sheriffs and state troopers...as far as I know there is NO SUCH THING as a "Grace Period" or anything like it. Believe me it all depends on YOUR attitude and what is going on at the time, i.e weather conditions, heavy pedestrian count, busy intersection, around a school, firehouse or blind curve. ALL my buddies that are law enforcement will write a ticket for 2MPH over if they deem you, your vehicle, or the driving conditions in any way unsafe.
Suck it up you were speeding, quit trying to find a way out of it.
It's not like you were going 1MPH over and got a ticket, you were doing 11MPH over!
LIVE AND LEARN....

And I'm calling B.S on this: I have been around ALOT of law enforcement in my lifetime and I have NEVER heard of such a thing!

"Gotcha, thanks! Oh, and by the way, most states have a statute that requires municipal police to give you 10 mph. Thanks AAA! Too many complaints about trying to generate revenue by stopping tourists for doing 1 mph over knowing they won't travel back for court. Cops aren't just being nice"
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Okay, I gracefully step off my soap box now...........
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Sorry to sound like a prick but....since nobody else will say it I will...in my opinion folks like this are the reason all of our insurance rates are higher....

Grace period? What are you talking about? I don't know about where you live but I have PLENTY of friends that are county sheriffs and state troopers...as far as I know there is NO SUCH THING as a "Grace Period" or anything like it. Believe me it all depends on YOUR attitude and what is going on at the time, i.e weather conditions, heavy pedestrian count, busy intersection, around a school, firehouse or blind curve. ALL my buddies that are law enforcement will write a ticket for 2MPH over if they deem you, your vehicle, or the driving conditions in any way unsafe.
Suck it up you were speeding, quit trying to find a way out of it.
It's not like you were going 1MPH over and got a ticket, you were doing 11MPH over!
LIVE AND LEARN....

And I'm calling B.S on this: I have been around ALOT of law enforcement in my lifetime and I have NEVER heard of such a thing!

"Gotcha, thanks! Oh, and by the way, most states have a statute that requires municipal police to give you 10 mph. Thanks AAA! Too many complaints about trying to generate revenue by stopping tourists for doing 1 mph over knowing they won't travel back for court. Cops aren't just being nice"


I have a few doctor friends but I dont try and practice medicine, just saying...
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Welcome to New York's statute.....
New York 65 A (+30) Traffic law §1180, 1212, 1643 The law permits a 15 day jail sentence for 11 MPH over the speed limit.


again it ALL depends on the specific conditions....
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Welcome to New York's statute.....
New York 65 A (+30) Traffic law §1180, 1212, 1643 The law permits a 15 day jail sentence for 11 MPH over the speed limit.


again it ALL depends on the specific conditions....

Im no law expert but id imagine laws are very different here than they are in New York.
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What the original poster is saying is true in Virginia, maybe not in the other states that everyone is from. I grew up there and lived there most of my life (Virginia Beach). If you get your speedometer calibrated and it's more than 3mph off they can consider the speeding ticket an equipment malfunction instead of a moving violation. At least that's the way it used to be and things change all the time. It could just depend on the judge you get or the mood that he or she is in at the time. They may just say "speeding is still speeding" and fine you anyway. It's always worth a shot. It was $50 for a speedometer calibration but that may have gone up too.
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Officers have discretion on these kind of tickets. They don't have to give it to you and if they do then they can drop it/nolle pros the ticket. This pretty much goes with almost any misdemeanor charge where I live and if it's a higher charge then a District Attorney or Solicitor can drop the charge as well. Also, most officers I know won't pull you over unless you're going a certain amount over the speed limit. -That is, if you're just speeding and nothing suspicious;-)
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Hmmm ... 36 in a 25 ....

I would think that your speedo was off by 1 or 2 mph at the most. Not sure that this argument would fly.
I completely agree. ^^^

Before I changed my speedo gear, at 60mph it was off about 5mph. The thing to remember the inaccuracy increases as your speed rises. At zero, your going zero, at 30mph you may be going 32mph, and at 40mph you may be going 43. You get the idea.
The gear change is quick and easy. There are gear calculators floating around on the web that will help you choose the correct amount of teeth you need for the gear. I picked one up at my local Jeep dealer, or you can order one from the net.
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Sorry to sound like a prick but....since nobody else will say it I will...in my opinion folks like this are the reason all of our insurance rates are higher....

Grace period? What are you talking about? I don't know about where you live but I have PLENTY of friends that are county sheriffs and state troopers...as far as I know there is NO SUCH THING as a "Grace Period" or anything like it. Believe me it all depends on YOUR attitude and what is going on at the time, i.e weather conditions, heavy pedestrian count, busy intersection, around a school, firehouse or blind curve. ALL my buddies that are law enforcement will write a ticket for 2MPH over if they deem you, your vehicle, or the driving conditions in any way unsafe.
Suck it up you were speeding, quit trying to find a way out of it.
It's not like you were going 1MPH over and got a ticket, you were doing 11MPH over!
LIVE AND LEARN....

And I'm calling B.S on this: I have been around ALOT of law enforcement in my lifetime and I have NEVER heard of such a thing!

"Gotcha, thanks! Oh, and by the way, most states have a statute that requires municipal police to give you 10 mph. Thanks AAA! Too many complaints about trying to generate revenue by stopping tourists for doing 1 mph over knowing they won't travel back for court. Cops aren't just being nice"
Thanks dude, I dont understand why some people comment on people's thread when they dont answer the OP's questions or help them out. And no there isnt a "grace period" but the individual officer that wrote my ticket told me that HE PERSONALLY gives people that grace period. I didnt say the actual state had a grace period. Please read my posts correctly before you make false assumptions please. Also, "Suck it up you were speeding, quit trying to find a way out of it.
It's not like you were going 1MPH over and got a ticket, you were doing 11MPH over!" ????
You dont know where I live/the road i was pulled over on/the situation i was in or anything. So in conclusion if you would like to answer my question about how much a speedometer calibration on a 2006 Jeep Wrangler SE would cost on average then please let me know Thank you and I hope you have a great day and a Happy New Year.
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Welcome to New York's statute.....
New York 65 A (+30) Traffic law §1180, 1212, 1643 The law permits a 15 day jail sentence for 11 MPH over the speed limit
again it ALL depends on the specific conditions....
I live in Virginia, not New York. This information is completely useless to the information I am trying to recieve from this thread.
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Jeepchic70 thank you very much for the information. The officer who pulled me over said the exact thing you did about how they can consider an equipment malfunction rather than a moving violation. Thanks for your input! Jeep girls are the best!
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In that case they should reduce charges and plead guilty to defective equipment that usually cost more but doest add points or cause your insurance to go up.
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Jeepchic70 thank you very much for the information. The officer who pulled me over said the exact thing you did about how they can consider an equipment malfunction rather than a moving violation. Thanks for your input! Jeep girls are the best!
I really don't know how you got so misunderstood. It's unfortunate because what you were asking was a very simple and direct question. Good luck on the ticket!! Send me a PM and let me know if you got the calibration done and the ticket downgraded to an equipment problem. I hope you do!!
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A friend of mine's wife got pulled over for speeding. She told the Officer that it was the different size tires that caused the speedo to read incorrectly. He asked her if she was sure that was the reason, and she said yes. He then gave her a citation for speeding and one for knowingly driving with faulty equipment. If the speedo is not reading correctly for any reason, and she knew it, she should have kept her mouth shut. When the Officer left she looked at me and said "don't say a word." She was running a 1964 Ford Galaxy 500 XL with a 390 cu. in. & a 4 speed tranny.
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I really don't know how you got so misunderstood. It's unfortunate because what you were asking was a very simple and direct question. Good luck on the ticket!! Send me a PM and let me know if you got the calibration done and the ticket downgraded to an equipment problem. I hope you do!!
Thanks, not sure how I got misunderstood so easily either lol was just asking how much it costs lol
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Speaking as someone who's had his share of speeding tickets and other violations...by the time I turned 17, I'd already had my license suspended for a month and revoked for 5 months (and because of that, I'd gotten my permit twice, taken the written exam twice, and the driving exam twice).

If you can get the ticket dropped, that's good... paying higher insurance costs sucks. However, at the same time, the point some people here are trying to make is...you were speeding, you knew it, and you got caught. Some folks are being a bit anal about it...and others are just stating the point that you should learn a lesson from your mistake.

Like it was mentioned earlier in this thread...if you knew your tires threw your speedo off, you should have known to compensate for it. It sounds like you had a pretty nice cop letting that excuse fly. Keep in mind, that cop may say he has that policy...but cops will say a lot of things to keep people calm and happy even when they're receiving a ticket. I'm friends with quite a few cops...most do kind of follow their own little rules, but they also do have "quotas" (but they'll NEVER refer to them as that while on the job) and if they pull you over and you're rude...they will most likely ticket you if they can legally do so. My buddy who's a New Orleans police officer said 9 times out of 10, by the time he reaches the car, he's already decided on whether to issue a ticket or not...but if you're rude, he's always willing to change his mind. The cop you dealt with probably just didn't want to deal with the paperwork so he gave you a fix it ticket and a way out so you would learn your lesson without having to actually deal with the ticket.

Anyway... as far as recalibrating your speedo goes, it seems to me the going rate is around $50-75. I'd just find the right gear and do it yourself, then ask a shop or dealership to verify it and sign off on it...or if you have a friend who's a mechanic who can verify it and sign off after you do the work, you can probably get away with having it done for no charge.
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The "point" is...as was answered previously that on an 06 TJ there is no "calibaration", no electronic setting changes without changing out the speedo gear...that was answered. unless you pay a shop to do it there could not be a reciept for the "work" done. If you ordered or purchased the part and have the reciept I'd assume that they would take that, hopefully anyway.

I wish you luck on it all. I understand why you are trying to get it fixed, obviously to avoid exceeding the speed by mistake.....
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You can not electronically recalibrate your speedometer unless your 2006 is a Rubicon. I went to 3 different dealerships, all of which believed you could, only to find out the speedometer is run off of a spur gear located behind your transfer case. Here is a good write up and guide to what gear you will need:

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You can not electronically recalibrate your speedometer unless your 2006 is a Rubicon. I went to 3 different dealerships, all of which believed you could, only to find out the speedometer is run off of a spur gear located behind your transfer case. Here is a good write up and guide to what gear you will need:

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thanks a lot i didnt know it was that easy. i might just buy the gear and put it in myself and then get a shop to show that it was changed, i think i can work it out..thanks for the help!
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You will have to go to court with the paperwork. Likely will get a "Faulty Speedometer/Faulty Equipment" ticket. That's not a moving violation so your rates shouldn't increase. Lesson learned, bigger tires = need to recalibrate the speedometer. Cost me $49.00 when I was in Virginia Beach, VA.
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I thought I read that you were going back to 31's. if true, wouldn't this be the fix you need. If so, perhaps you could tell the Judge that instead of recalibrating the tranny, you just went back to near stock size tires (show receipt) to fix the speedo that way?
Just a thought

Just for giggles, I run 35's. My speedo is 3 mph slower than I'm actually going in 1st through 4th gears. It's 5 miles an hour slower in 5th & 6th. And with 5.13's I rarely speed. lol

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