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Old 05-25-2007, 09:18 PM   #1
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Spy pics Vanco 16" and larger brakes

Finished up the prototype for the 16" kit and installed it on Kat's jeep this afternoon. Outstanding performance with no mods to the stock brake system.








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Old 05-25-2007, 09:42 PM   #2
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Oh Lord, that is sexy.

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now i wish that was a rear disk system kit
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Absolutely. All of the brake kits that Van builds are 100 percent bolt-on with only a tiny bit of grinding to the flange on the unit bearing for the 15" kit.

This one doesn't even need that. The inner diameter of the rotor hat clears the flange quite nicely.

Just so there is no confusion, you do have to remove the knuckle and install the new ones and then return your old ones back to Van.
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So Blaine are they just modified Dana 30 knuckles or are they something like WJ knuckles? Dual piston calipers and what a 12 or 13" rotor? That should definitely stop the meats we run more effectively. Has Van released any pricing for this setup yet? I know there was some more research that was going on in regards to parts.
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damn, I really like the setup. I wish I could get hooked up like all ya'll, all the test products and free stuff.
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So Blaine are they just modified Dana 30 knuckles or are they something like WJ knuckles? Dual piston calipers and what a 12 or 13" rotor? That should definitely stop the meats we run more effectively. Has Van released any pricing for this setup yet? I know there was some more research that was going on in regards to parts.
They are the OEM knuckles that have been modified. There is not a clean, effective way to use the WJ knuckle and deal with the trackbar in any consistent manner that does not require large amounts of fabrication.

This kit is very equivalent to the WJ brakes though. Same diameter and thickness of rotor, very similar caliper.

I don't know about pricing. I don't think Van does either. There are no quotes from the machine shop and laser cutter yet.
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damn, I really like the setup. I wish I could get hooked up like all ya'll, all the test products and free stuff.
I have several hundred hours in development and design time into larger brake kits. I'm not getting much for free.
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What would you like to know?
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now i wish that was a rear disk system kit
Why would you wish that?
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What would you like to know?
Pricing - avail - wheels info ?
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Why would you wish that?
i hate drums.. looks bad, while this looks "cooler", i hate replacing the pads since you manually have to adjust them by feel which aperently is preatty tough, the drums never come off easily on top of that..

disks are simpler to maintain, they look nicer and much easier to keep clean
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But this is a big break kit for the front... if you hate drums, just get a set of disks off a ZJ for your rearend
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That wheel is a M/T Forged Challenger 16x8 with about 4.5" of backspacing. There is plenty of clearance around it as you can see in the inner wheel shot which leads me to believe that it will work with most 16" rims.

Available in a couple of weeks at the most depending on the machine and laser shops.

I don't do pricing. That's Van's job.
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i hate drums.. looks bad, while this looks "cooler", i hate replacing the pads since you manually have to adjust them by feel which aperently is preatty tough, the drums never come off easily on top of that..

disks are simpler to maintain, they look nicer and much easier to keep clean
There are at least 4 options available to you to convert your rear drums to discs.

ZJ rear discs which you have to open up the hole for the bearing slightly and use the Rubi retainers and ZJ or TJ parking brake cables to finish it off.

TJ rear discs with the only difference being not having to open up the bearing hole.

Tera's rear disc conversion which uses Explorer 8.8 rear calipers and is a direct bolt-up like the TJ stuff.

And finally, the least desireable of your options is Stainless Steel Brakes rear Disc conversion. PITA to install, the calipers can not be bled in place, and I wouldn't run them if they were free.
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Blaine, those look VERY nice!!!! Nice to see more bolt on options for better performance.

BTW, I took care of that pedal travel issue you and I discusses last week. VERY little pedal travel now before the brakes start working!!! MUCH better. Had the daughter drive it and she was like WOW! and thought I had done more than adjust the rear brakes.
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Blaine, those look VERY nice!!!! Nice to see more bolt on options for better performance.

BTW, I took care of that pedal travel issue you and I discusses last week. VERY little pedal travel now before the brakes start working!!! MUCH better. Had the daughter drive it and she was like WOW! and thought I had done more than adjust the rear brakes.
That's good. The calipers should go out today. I've been letting the fluid drain out of them to keep the mess down.
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Blaine, those look VERY nice!!!! Nice to see more bolt on options for better performance.
On a side note. I put the brakes in the pics on my wife's TJ and have been having her drive it instead of the 04. The 04 is stock except for a set of Rubicon tires and rims and new but broken in rotors and PF pads.

We hop in it to run down to the hardware store and she almost blew through the stop sign at the bottom of hill. She now wants the same brakes on the 04 that she has on her rig. She says it's much more fun to drive when you don't have to worry about stopping.
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That's good. The calipers should go out today. I've been letting the fluid drain out of them to keep the mess down.
Sounds good. Look forward to getting em!
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On a side note. I put the brakes in the pics on my wife's TJ and have been having her drive it instead of the 04. The 04 is stock except for a set of Rubicon tires and rims and new but broken in rotors and PF pads.

We hop in it to run down to the hardware store and she almost blew through the stop sign at the bottom of hill. She now wants the same brakes on the 04 that she has on her rig. She says it's much more fun to drive when you don't have to worry about stopping.
Scary moment, I'm sure!

Still looking forward to seeing what cool stuff you guys are putting together!

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