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Old 01-14-2012, 08:17 AM   #1
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Stabilizer bar link

I have '04 Wrangler X. Bought it with a 4" lift already installed. I recently discovered the nut from the top of driver side link missing. Threads are damaged and will not except a new nut. Question is; are the links replaced with longer ones in a 4" lift? Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 01-14-2012, 10:38 AM   #2
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On my 3.5 lift It keeps the stock uppers. FYI. Front and rear both, although I eventually replaces the rear uppers when I did the SYE (Slip Yoke Eliminator) and new CV (Constant Velocity) Drive shaft upgrade. I will bet on a short arm lift that they retain the stock uppers. But you are going to need a SYE and CV Drive shaft if you don't already have one as well as adjustable rear upper control arms to get the proper pinion alignment. Hopefully you already have the upgrades. Is your transmission skid plate bolted directly up to the frame rails or are there spacers and does the plate hang low? If it does, there is a chance that you don't have the SYE and CV Drive shaft. If it is bolted up tight to the frame, then you probably have the Upgrades. Your rear upper control arms, are they tubular in style or stamped steel? Pictures would help.

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On my 3.5 lift It keeps the stock uppers. FYI. Front and rear both, although I eventually replaces the rear uppers when I did the SYE (Slip Yoke Eliminator) and new CV (Constant Velocity) Drive shaft upgrade. I will bet on a short arm lift that they retain the stock uppers. But you are going to need a SYE and CV Drive shaft if you don't already have one as well as adjustable rear upper control arms to get the proper pinion alignment. Hopefully you already have the upgrades. Is your transmission skid plate bolted directly up to the frame rails or are there spacers and does the plate hang low? If it does, there is a chance that you don't have the SYE and CV Drive shaft. If it is bolted up tight to the frame, then you probably have the Upgrades. Your rear upper control arms, are they tubular in style or stamped steel? Pictures would help.
All of this relates to a damaged sway bar end link in what way?

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Question is; are the links replaced with longer ones in a 4" lift?
With that much lift, it is impossible to maintain the proper sway bar geometry with stock, unextended end links.
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All of this relates to a damaged sway bar end link in what way?
Ditto, why in the world, when someone asks a straightforward question, does someone else have to chime in with 40 or 50 irrelevant comments Are we supposed to be impressed with how much he/she knows ????????

[/QUOTE] With that much lift, it is impossible to maintain the proper sway bar geometry with stock, unextended end links.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your relevance

As long as you are replacing them get a set of disconnects of the proper length.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:10 PM   #5
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Yes, they need to be longer. You want your swaybar to be at about 10 deg. You can measure and order some to that angle or get some adjustable ones like JKS. Another option is a replacement system like sway-loc or currie antiloc. A lot of folks swear by them.

For getting the old ones off, invest in a butane torch and a BFH. Both made removing the old ones a breeze. Mine laughed at the pickle fork until I heated them up red and hit 'em in the head.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:59 PM   #6
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Ok Guys, not sure if I used the the correct terminology. Repair manual calls it a stabilizer bar link. . wasn't A friend of mine installed a set of Air Lift 1000's to compensate for a plow's weight. I think (I'm sure) he damaged the threads on the link. I don't want to make a big deal out of it. All I need to know is this a stock part or a custom part. Here is a picture of the link with the vice grips I put on just in case
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That's a stocker. You may want to consider aftermarket though. The joints are notorious for popping out.
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One more thing... the angle of the sway bar should be about 10 degrees (lower closer to the bumper). Yours looks to be a little flatter which may have led to the problem.
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Ok, stock part. I think problem was caused by friend installing air bags. Not many options at the parts stores around here. Only name brand is Moog. To change the angle degree what are your recommendations?
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Longer links is the only way to correct the angle. I believe stock ones only come in one size though so that's why I mentioned aftermarket links. It's hard to tell from your picture but is it angling up at all?
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I went with JKS Quicker Disconnects which are adjustable to get within the optimal 10 degree range.

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Update: bought links from Warrior Products. Will be installing as soon as the weather gets a little warmer.

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