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Old 04-02-2011, 10:55 PM   #1
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Standard vs Automatic

04'-06' V6 Automatic or standard or just personal preference? I've heard the automatics are "junk" are there known issues with the auto.?

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My auto runs great and they 3spd autos handle larger tires w/lower ratios better than manuals. Also, I dont have to shift. DUH. haha. I would actually like a manual but auto has its place.

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I've had two autos. It's a total matter of personal preference. I like my auto. But I like driving a standard as well. More fun.
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And from the other side of the spectrum I have the 5 speed. In fact I actually passed up a couple automatics before I found one with the I6 and manual transmission. It's a blast to drive and in this mountainous area engine braking is useful. However the auto is not "junk" and it really comes down to personal preference. Just get what you want and go with it.

If you're concerned about the learning curve of the manual, don't be. I learned how to drive it last summer when I was 16 and was confident in a few hours and had mastered it in a few weeks. Now I can rev match, downshift without jerking the vehicle around, hill starts don't bother me, and u can get it rolling in 1st without touching the gas.
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Exactly. Personal preference. I CAN drive a stick but I like my auto, i had an open mind and the auto came available first and was a great deal.
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Old 04-02-2011, 11:22 PM   #6
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And from the other side of the spectrum I have the 5 speed. In fact I actually passed up a couple automatics before I found one with the I6 and manual transmission. It's a blast to drive and in this mountainous area engine braking is useful. However the auto is not "junk" and it really comes down to personal preference. Just get what you want and go with it.

If you're concerned about the learning curve of the manual, don't be. I learned how to drive it last summer when I was 16 and was confident in a few hours and had mastered it in a few weeks. Now I can rev match, downshift without jerking the vehicle around, hill starts don't bother me, and u can get it rolling in 1st without touching the gas.

thats why I wish I could have a manual in my area, but you can still downshift in a 3 speed because 2nd is still like 35-40 hahaha.

sounds like you learned better than my buddy. hes learning to drive stick and when turning into school the other day popped the clutch real hard and about jumped off the ground hahaha. poor guy

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I've had two autos. It's a total matter of personal preference. I like my auto. But I like driving a standard as well. More fun.
more fun is true but when your in a rush or you dont feel like shifting its fun to be lazy too :P
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Old 04-02-2011, 11:30 PM   #7
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Rockcrawling or trail with lots of hills an auto is the way to go,trying to be smooth climbing hills with a stick can be a pain and clutches burn up easy learning.I have a manual

Daily driver 90% road and flatland.....manual anyway for me
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thats why I wish I could have a manual in my area, but you can still downshift in a 3 speed because 2nd is still like 35-40 hahaha.

sounds like you learned better than my buddy. hes learning to drive stick and when turning into school the other day popped the clutch real hard and about jumped off the ground hahaha. poor guy

more fun is true but when your in a rush or you dont feel like shifting its fun to be lazy too :P
Ouch I guess some learn better than others lol. It helped that I knew how a manual transmission helped and had driven dirt bikes and what not but the jeep was a whole different ball game when it came to doing 4 different things at once lol.

I guess you can disable O/D for a bit more compression too. I love engine braking. There is this long steep hill where the speed limit drops from 45 to 35. All other vehicles are tail lights all the way down. I just drop it from 4th to 3rd and it slows me to 35 and holds there all the way down.

Shifting becomes second nature too so you can still be lazy too. It also is a cell phone deterrent. I hate it when people use their phones and drive...

Basically its personal preference and both transmissions are very reliable.
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04'-06' V6 Automatic or standard or just personal preference? I've heard the automatics are "junk" are there known issues with the auto.?
V6? Typo right lol..
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Old 04-02-2011, 11:46 PM   #10
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Luv my auto...if I want to shift I jump in my stang
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Old 04-03-2011, 12:08 AM   #11
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I've had both types in my Jeeps and greatly prefer the automatic. The tougher the trail, the more an automatic shines. Especially due to the fact that an automatic puts out significantly more low end torque.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:16 AM   #12
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I guess you can disable O/D for a bit more compression too. I love engine braking. There is this long steep hill where the speed limit drops from 45 to 35. All other vehicles are tail lights all the way down. I just drop it from 4th to 3rd and it slows me to 35 and holds there all the way down.
That's why I love the xk. Tow haul mode engine brakes and so when I get to a large hill I just hit tow haul and it really helps. You can down shift in an auto too I suppose. I've never done it though.
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I wish I could have both. There are times that I wish I had an auto and sometimes I am glad I have my 5 SP. The older I get the more I lean towards the auto !
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Having both i much prefer the auto.I cant imagine how much harder it would be if you dont have the 4:1 transfer case with a manual.The Rubi TJ just crawl over rocks without having to gas up (most of the time).

But with my auto JK X there is a balance of gassing and braking over large obstacles..
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That's why I love the xk. Tow haul mode engine brakes and so when I get to a large hill I just hit tow haul and it really helps. You can down shift in an auto too I suppose. I've never done it though.
If you've got cruise control on, it will downshift going down hills as well... my XJ didn't do it, so I'm assuming that's only 03+ TJs.
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Old 04-03-2011, 10:09 AM   #16
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I have a manual, and I love every second of it except bumper to bumper stop and go traffic. By the time I'm home I feel like I should have a hulk-sized left leg.
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Old 04-03-2011, 10:17 AM   #17
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It's a matter of preference...

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My auto runs great and they 3spd autos handle larger tires w/lower ratios better than manuals. Also, I dont have to shift. DUH. haha. I would actually like a manual but auto has its place.
Thats because the slush-box is doing what it is designed to do...shift automatically...which is putting more wear and tear on the trani...so if you upgrade your tires and don't gear-up...regardless of the trani you will have issues...with a stick for a few bucks and a few tools you can redo a clutch...but with an auto...you need an assortment of special tools or you to take to someone and spend quite a few more...Rebuilt my friends auto in 07 and it's still going strong...

If you like shifting get a stick...if you don't get an auto...Also auto's have an obvious advantage when climbing stuff...Me, I like the challenge of driving a stick...So I have a stick...Plus having "Disabled" plates on a vehicle with a "Stick" makes for some fun conversations with busy-bodies...
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Old 04-03-2011, 10:33 AM   #18
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Being a commercial driver driving a stick is nature. I don't mind autos but it just doesn't feel right driving one.
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When I started buying 4x4's, they didn't offer automatics and we wheeled just fine. Now I own 3 with autos. I prefer a stick shift on very steep downhills, but for all around driving, the autos are sweet
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I drive an auto. I'd like to have a manual too. Just to drive for fun.
Driving a manual everyday can get annoying. I used to have a 90 F150 stick when I was younger. It was fun, but could be a pain in traffic.
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Also, the fun part of having a stick shift DD is when you drive in an automatic and floor the brake trying to shift.
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:40 AM   #22
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Two reasons I prefer manuals:

#1 just because I do!

#2 My wife hates them, ie she rarely will take my Jeep or PU!
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I've driven both and have had 2 stick shift jeeps. I like total control and a mechanical connection instead of a slush box. Its a bit trickier on big rocks, but I like the challenge!
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My TJ has manual transmission. There are a couple of reasons I like mine manual. I go to the dunes were the sand is very slick and a manual transmission offers me more control and strength. Some of you may have seen the the thread I opened named "Desierto de Altar" and you may see why manual transmission shines there. Due to the extreme weather in Desierto de Altar automatic transmissions overheat and lose power or bust.

I have no experience with rock climbing so I am not qualified to give my opinion in that matter.

Manual transmission is fun to drive. Whenever I drive my wife's Maxima I get bored. I love shifting and giving the power I want to my car.

In street is all personal opinion.

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Having both i much prefer the auto.I cant imagine how much harder it would be if you dont have the 4:1 transfer case with a manual.The Rubi TJ just crawl over rocks without having to gas up (most of the time).

But with my auto JK X there is a balance of gassing and braking over large obstacles..
This is all very true I have the 6 speed manual. And an automatic has advantages. The biggest problem on rock is dealing with 3 pedals. With an auto you can have 1 foot on the gas and one on the brake. I would need a third foot to do the same. This is why I installed a hand throttle kit on mine. It takes one pedal out of the mix, but i think an auto would still be more manageable at times. So my advise is an auto just make sure you gear it right for the tires. Plenty of threads on Here for advice on that subject too.

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No learning curve here. All I have ever owned were standards. My wife wants me to get an auto so that she can drive it. But I don't want to have a bunch of problems. I enjoy driving a stick but get tired of it from time to time. I know I would have more fun with a stick. I just don't know if I want my wife driving my Jeep
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Off road I prefer the auto, it's easier and more stable to "walk" the obstacles, i.e. rocks, tree falls, etc. On the pavement I miss the manual a little bit but I don't drive a muscle car anymore so I don't really need it.
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I miss my manuals, but I can honestly say that manuals in my opinion are for sports cars as hard rocks, Moab, are very difficult to go through in manuals.
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One advantage to having a stick is being able to push start if you have a starter or battery problem. This could be a big deal if you spend much time way out in the boonies. It's saved my bacon before.
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Autos make hard technical trails much easier... That's why I drive a manual.

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