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Old 12-25-2008, 12:00 AM   #1
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stock tj rake

ok so i have a 97 stock tj

the front sits about 1 to 1.5 inches lower than the back...

is this normal, and what kind of leveling kits can i get?

obviously i want to lift the front.. not lower the back lol.

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Old 12-25-2008, 12:03 AM   #2
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Its normal, you can buy spring spacers to level it out.

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Old 12-25-2008, 12:07 AM   #3
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x2, after a while the front springs get warn in faster then the rear. from what i have heard is that the rear passenger spring on most 4.0L get soft too.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:09 AM   #4
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Over time your springs have sagged.

But....here is something to consider. DON'T go by the distance from the ground to the flare! The opening for the rear flares DO sit higher on the tub than the front opening is. Also giving the illusion of a rake. A better place to measure is the ground to the frame just behind the control arm mounts. Not the flares.

I have no dought that your 11yr old springs have sagged. Most do.

If your just trying to get it back to stock level height. You can swap the springs out for some pulled off of a newer TJ. Some opt for Rubi springs for the higher spring rate.
You can also use spring spacers to correct the issue.
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its a 4 cyl, so a little lighter in the front, but it has a tubular style bumper with the ^ thing on it, also tubular.. so i think that adds a lil more weight.

ive googled it, and i see alot of people not wanting to go with spring spacers.

this is truely a street jeep, i might do a trail or two, but im definately not looking to get any suspension flex.. dont know if that matters... but i want to baby this thing.
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The tube bumper doesn't weigh alot at all. It is not the concern of your sag. Just age of the springs.

Spring spacers will not harm or hurt anything and your ride will remain almost completely as it is now.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:29 AM   #7
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link for recommended brand of spacer?
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and why is it all i see when googling into it is people saying they DONT want to use spacers?
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Most are referring to a BB "budget boost" spacers. Such as a 2'' bb lift

Reason for the "don't do it" is because most with said bb lift end up pulling it out for a larger spring lift later down the road. It's the " don't waste your money on it if your going bigger later, just save that money and put it towards a real lift kit" mentality.
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Are you looking to keep the stock height or go any larger?
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:13 AM   #11
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looking to level it with the back..
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could be a possibility to do 1 or 2 inches in the back and 2 or 3 in the front to lift it a little while still evening out the height...

didnt think that was possible.

i thought bb stood for body lift somehow lol.
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I'd go for some factory take off springs then. You can find them cheaper than spacers and it will keep your factory ride.

Check your local craigslist or post in the wanted section. I've picked up a set of Rubi springs for $25 before.
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could be a possibility to do 1 or 2 inches in the back and 2 or 3 in the front to lift it a little while still evening out the height...

didnt think that was possible.

i thought bb stood for body lift somehow lol.

Yes it is completely possible.

BB = budget boost

BL = body lift.



So are you wanting to go higher or no?
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:52 AM   #15
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i wouldnt mind getting more lift if all i had to buy was springs.. but im ok with the way it would look leveled out on 31s

im on 30s right now.

are there lift kits that would do 2 or 3 inches with just springs? would i have to do shocks and all that?

would i have to specifically find a front set of springs, or could i use a rear set.. seems like a rear set would have more lift as my rear springs seem to be sitting fine.

sorry for all the newb questions. im hitting the hay by the way. ill check up on the thread in the morning.

thanks for all your help!
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the front springs are different than the rear. yes there are longer springs to add height.
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:29 PM   #17
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I've got 06 stock Rubicon springs and shocks with 20k, no rust (from CO)....and I live in NY!
They would provide a good height for 31s. PM me if interested
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:46 PM   #18
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I gained about an inch after i threw a set of stock rubi springs in my 99tj.
Not because they are taller but because my stock springs had sagged that much.
I would take bigstonz up on his offer. Throw in the rubi springs and see if you like it. IF you want a little more and thats it. Get a BB. I am one of the guys that didnt listen and got a BB and now im looking for another lift...lol
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I'd would throw a set of Rubi coils up front, replace the sagged ones. I live in NY and have a set of springs laying around.
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Old 12-25-2008, 02:51 PM   #20
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hey guys let me know how much with shipping to 13603.

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I'm way too lazy to ship them. I'm an hour south of Rochester
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You'd be better off just throwing a 1" spacer in the front. Even with my 3" lift, I have 1" spacers up front to level it off and the winch still gives it a rake.

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