bow can you fit 2'' spacers on studs that are about over an 1'' in length?
I have stockies 15x7 on with 32x11.5 with no spacers. if I went with 33 I would go 15x8 = reason why I did not go with 33's; no money. spacers=nuts comming loose in long run, vibrations, wheel off, and warping.
Dont waste your money on spacers ortry to use stock wheels. Anything above a 33" tire I'd HIGHLY suggest getting new wheels with more backspacing. Black steelies are the cheapest way to go and they look pretty good to boot.
i agree^^^ that and if you have say a 15x7 wheel and you go with a 12.50 that tire isnt goin to wear right with that skinny of a wheel, your goin to get alot of wear in the middle of your tread rather than a uniform wear across the tire. how it was explained to me is that the beads of the tire are goin to be pulled in too much on both sides causin the middle of the tire to come up further than the rest of the tread. i had a local tire shop tell me that so in that case...rumor has it
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Those wheels are 15x8... its the backspacing thats the issue. They have like 5.5" of backspacing which puts them closer to the center of the Jeep. A different wheel with like 4" or even 3.75" of backspacing will stick them out father allowing a wider tire so that it wont rub anything under the Jeep.
There have been many people on here running spacers with no problem. I run stock canyons, which are pretty much the old version of the wheels you have with 33 x 12.50's and have no problems with rubbing with 1.25" spacers. 2" spacers would be ridicoulous, but you shouldn't have any trouble with a set of 1.25 if you get them torqued down right. I thought there would be some safety issues with spacers but this is my 2nd vehicle with them (WJ with spacers to change bolt pattern) and I have never even had one lug nut loose when I took them off or checked them. You will be fine with some spacers and keeping the stock wheels if that is what you like!!
I am running 33x10.50 tires on my stock jeep 15x8 rims and my brother is running 34x10.50 on his rubicon. we have not had a problem doing this since 10.50 wide is about the normal stock width. I had 15x10 aftermarket rims I got from a junkyard when I had 33x12.50 tires, but liked how my old rims looked better. So when they old tires wore out I switched back. The Tires I have are bfg mudterrians and I ordered them from tirepackage.com at 150 a piece. They have the cheapest tire prices of any place I cheacked internet and local.
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01 TJ SPORT,d44 w/true-trac in rear, 4 in. lift, 33's
For those that are against wheel spacers, give me GOOD reasoning as to why they are so bad. When I say wheel spacers, I'm talking about the Spidertrax variety, not those shim things you see on sports cars.
The strain on the CV joint does NOT hold water as spacers will give you a comparable backspacing to a different wheel.
I have stock Canyons running 33x12.5x15 tires. I have 5.5" BS before I added the 1.25" spacers. With those, I now have effective backspacing of 4.25", which is STILL closer in than those black steelies with 3.75 or 4" of BS.
I torque the spacers to 110 lbfts per the instructions and I've used red loctite, again per instructions. I checked the torque after 50 and again after 1000 miles. Guess what? Still 110. Wheels attached to the Spidertrax spacers, again torqued to spec. Guess what? No issues there either.
If somebody is really wanting to keep their stock alloys, then the spacers are a PERFECT way to accomplish this, but be sure to get the good spacers like Spidertrax and NOT the shims. The shim spacers WILL cause problems with lugs coming loose or breaking from added stress and the lugnut not being on enough.
If you WANT to go to black steelies or other wheels with less backspacing (to 3.75 or 4"), then go for it. You can sell the stock wheels and recoop most if not all the money.
The other main issue I see is with pricing. When you factor wheel prices, you'd better factor in *5* wheels, not 4. Also factor in mounting and balancing costs and that $160 that Walker quoted quickly goes higher, especially if you have to have them shipped. Wheel center caps, factor in more there and the black steelie deal doesn't really look as sweet. Granted you can probably find them local, but you still have the mount/balance/taxes/center caps if desired to factor in there.
But 15x8 is a good wheel size to run the 33x12.5's.
My only gripe with spacers is that you have 10 lugnuts to remove when working on the brakes/hubs/axleshafts.
The only beef with spacers are its one more thing to fail and constantly check on for being tight.
If you go to a Discount Tire or something you can get a decen set of steel wheels(black or chrome) for like $50/ea
$250 = $50 x 5
$ 50 = Mounting and balancing x 5 (i'm being generous)
$300 + tax on the mount/balance/tires/wheels
If you want the centercaps on black steelies, figure $13 (summitracing.com price) x 4 (not needed on spare really) so that is an addtional $52.00 to pay...
$200 = 100 x 2 Spidertrax spacers (4x4groupbuy price)
$ 50 = mount and balance (for new tires anyway
$250 + tax on the mount/balance/tires
Spacers still come out ahead in this one.
If you want the new wheels, then cool, get em and enjoy em. But if money is tight, then the black steel wheels are not the cheap alternative that they are made out to be, assuming you buy new. The equation changes drastically if you can find a set of 5 wheels from a jeep site. I've seen sets of 5 for 100 w/o the center caps, but they get snapped up rather quickly.
If you need something NOW, then spacers may be the better option for you. Consider also your environment. If they use salt in Colorado (I dunno if they do or not), then the steel wheels may not last as long or hold up as well as the alloys would.
Yeah.. i wasnt coming from the "spacers are bad" train of thought... More so from the "steelies look freakin sweet" train of thought. and i wish I could sell my stock wheels, but nobody wants 15x7 steelies.
Cragar 342...$41 x 5 = $205
Mount and Balance...$15 x5 = $75
Centercaps...$13 x 4 = $52
Look of black Steelies.... Priceless...
TrXuS makes an MT that is siped. I run those and have had good luck with em. Granted I'm in Alabama and the only snow I'll see here is in a snow globe and the only ice I'll see is in a Maker's and Coke.
The only thing that I forsee is that these are 16x8" rims and have a 4.5" BS Which may be too much for some 285/75/R16 tires.
I ran stock MOAB (5" backspacing) wheels on my rubicon with 285/75/16s TRXUS MT tires. That was with a 3" lift and 1" body lift. Loved it and it worked great... no rubbing. But I had removed my front sway bar completely and I hear some guys rub on their links at full turn/stuff. But with 4.5 backspacing you'd be okay.
But... I would still prefer a 4" or 3.75" backspacing because you know eventually you will go bigger. ANd 4.5" backspacing isn't going work as well then.
*edit: those are nice looking wheels by the way... are you sure you can't get them in different sizes or backspacing?
sell them on ebay .... i just paid $200 for those same rims on ebay without tires.. i like the look of that rim, hence the reason i purchased them..... then go buy some steelies with the correct bs that day then ship them out to the guy/gal.... since you were already going to buy tires anyway...