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Old 12-11-2010, 09:20 PM   #1
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Stupid ?? about mounting nerf bars on my Jeep

I had mounted some nerf bars a while back to my 06 TJ and had an issue with the 2 bolt mounts on the driversside in the front on the frame. Apparently they didn't take much to strip the threads. It almost felt like those bolts also held something in on the other side of the frame within the body panels(what I don't know) Is there or am I tripping here? I don't have the bolts in at this moment that's why I am wondering. Also I am looking at putting Rock Sliders on and I assume they use the same mounting setup and as far as I can tell the threads aren't terribly stripped but enough to NOT use the same bolts but if I were to have these rethreaded and use new bolts will it work? Anyone have experience with this? Thanks in advance!!!


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Old 12-12-2010, 10:38 AM   #2
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The nuts are welded to the inside of the frame like the ones on the skid plate. It is possible for the welds to break and the nut to roll around inside the frame. The only thing that these hold in place is the bumper. If they are stripped out the easiest fix is to drill the hole out and weld a new Grade 8 nut in. Or are you talking about something all together different?

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I am sorry, it's not exactlly the frame, it's part of the body on the front underside where the front of the nerfbars(side steps) would mount. Here are a few pics if that helps. The second pic was with the bars on when I snapped a bold but the 1st is without.




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As counter-intuitive as this may seem to newer Jeepers, frame mounted rockers and nerf bars are not nearly as strong as tub mounted rockers are. I'd remove the nerf bars and go with rockers that bolt directly to the tub.
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As counter-intuitive as this may seem to newer Jeepers, frame mounted rockers and nerf bars are not nearly as strong as tub mounted rockers are. I'd remove the nerf bars and go with rockers that bolt directly to the tub.
Why is that Jerry? I have nerf bars mounted to the tub and they are really strong (hey...I have young kids. Give me a break). Anyway, they do seem really strong. As you said, counterintuitive....
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Frame mounted nerf bars have long levers (mounting brackets) between the frame and the rail/tube/slider which allows it to flex/bend and apply a great deal of leverage against the frame mount. Which is one reason the OP's mounting bolts are coming out from where they are screwed into the frame.

Tub mounted sliders/rockers have zero leverage against what they are mounted to and they are held to the tub with something like a dozen bolts that can also be reinforced with an interior stiffening plate to make it even stronger.

Not only that but the mounting bracket that connects between the frame and tube or slider just gives two more points for trail obstacles to grab and hang up your Jeep.

You won't find anything but tub mounted rocker guards on the hard core trail rigs, especially rock crawlers, because the frame mounted slider brackets hang up on obstacles and they aren't nearly as strong against rocks and other trail obstacles.
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Thanks for the thorough explanation!
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I believe I am following you Jerry but I am not quite sure what you mean by the Tub mount? On my pics of the bolt mounting location I thought it was frame mounted until I took the pics and I think those are mounted to the tub, if my understanding of what you mean is correct. If that is the tub will those bolt mounts be easy to rethread and bolt? I do understand your explanation on mounting it to the frame will cause it to hang down farther and be easier to get hung up.
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A tub mount rocker guard's or tub mounted slider's mounting bolts pass only into and through the body. All of the mounting bolt's nuts are inside the passenger compartment. Nothing touches the frame of a tub mounted rocker guard or slider. All nerf bars are frame mounted.

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