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Old 10-09-2012, 05:59 AM   #1
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Suggestions anyone?

I recently bought my first jeep, an 02 tj, and I was wondering what to upgrade first. I plan to take her wheelin as often as I can. I already have some 31's and new wheels on the way.


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Old 10-09-2012, 05:59 AM   #2
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Oh btw I'm on a high school budget.

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Quick disconnects for the front sway bar. Flip visors/mirror. Remove milk jugs from the ends of the bumpers.

That's where I started. Homemade discos are cheap and will help off road capabilities. Everything else is cosmetic and free.
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Thanks lol I might make the discos sometime this weekend if I get a chance
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Does anybody know how reliable a rough country 2'' spacer lift with new shocks is. The price seems almost too good to be true.
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Does anybody know how reliable a rough country 2'' spacer lift with new shocks is. The price seems almost too good to be true.
In general, the spacer lifts are cheap like that. All spacers are pretty much the same thing, but I wouldn't recommend rough country shocks. I have them and they leave a lot to be desired.

If you plan on any hard core off roading, it's not your best route for lift. If you're doing it for looks/mild wheeling it will be fine.
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Wheel her as it is and you'll figure out what you'll want to do. It may be armor or lockers before a lift. Once simple and easy mod would be a 1.25" BL + 1" MML to set you up for future mods. Add in a 2" BB and you can fit bigger tires. That'd be the most I'd do until you find out what kind of trails are in the area.

I say this because of my personal experience. The first time I hit the closest ORP I thought it'd be nothing but dirt and mud. I had no idea that Rausch Creek was a dumping ground for glacial rock and armor would have been a better first mod. Every time I go up there I get new ideas for mods. Armor was first, then came lockers. Next is a tummy tuck and more armor.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:21 AM   #8
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A winch and mounting plate- 550
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Rubicon express budget boost - 280 + 80 for an alignment + 20 for front bump stops
I wouldn't bother with sway bar disconnects, your off road traction is better with the stock bar on

Those are some of the top upgrades I did when I first started in on my lj.
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I wouldn't bother with sway bar disconnects, your off road traction is better with the stock bar on
Man I hate to argue with someone who's been here longer, owned more jeeps, and seems more salted and experienced, but that's not how it works. Disconnected sway bar allows for flex. Flex allows you to keep tires on the ground. Tires on the ground means traction.

If you're running off road with the sway bar connected you'll be lifting tires in the air all the time and dealing with a harsher ride
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Man I hate to argue with someone who's been here longer, owned more jeeps, and seems more salted and experienced, but that's not how it works. Disconnected sway bar allows for flex. Flex allows you to keep tires on the ground. Tires on the ground means traction.

If you're running off road with the sway bar connected you'll be lifting tires in the air all the time and dealing with a harsher ride
Yep you are totally correct. Just went 4wheeling with my friend this weekend who has a 2012 unlimited stock. He got a wheel and even two in the air on several occasions, while my tj with discos just bent and twisted depending on the trails. Keeps the tires on the trail
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Man I hate to argue with someone who's been here longer, owned more jeeps, and seems more salted and experienced, but that's not how it works. Disconnected sway bar allows for flex. Flex allows you to keep tires on the ground. Tires on the ground means traction.

If you're running off road with the sway bar connected you'll be lifting tires in the air all the time and dealing with a harsher ride
That little of lift that with factory arms it will have much different limiting factors, I agree that it helps to keep all tires on the ground but if there is no pressure other than axle weight the tire will not bite. The factory bar will allow enough flex for moderate wheeling and keep more even downward pressure on the front tires. That is especially important for anything off camber and even more important with open differentials. Thats is the reason you see a lot of currie anti rock's on the trails. When I ran my budget boost I opted for quick disco's that I never disconnected and it did great. Now I run a different set up with no sway bar and some obstacles are a little more of a pita because of it.
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Wheel her as it is and you'll figure out what you'll want to do. It may be armor or lockers before a lift. Once simple and easy mod would be a 1.25" BL + 1" MML to set you up for future mods. Add in a 2" BB and you can fit bigger tires. That'd be the most I'd do until you find out what kind of trails are in the area.

I say this because of my personal experience.
X2 Jeeps are personalized.
You will figure out what you want/need if you wheel her first. Plus your driving skills will be be better than a guy who drives it from the dealer to the 4x4 shop for 'toys'.
There are so many manufacturers of TJ parts that you'll want to see the different ones in action on the trail to see how they perform. Not to mention you can talk to the owner and see how they like it and how was the install.
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That little of lift that with factory arms it will have much different limiting factors, I agree that it helps to keep all tires on the ground but if there is no pressure other than axle weight the tire will not bite. The factory bar will allow enough flex for moderate wheeling and keep more even downward pressure on the front tires. That is especially important for anything off camber and even more important with open differentials. Thats is the reason you see a lot of currie anti rock's on the trails. When I ran my budget boost I opted for quick disco's that I never disconnected and it did great. Now I run a different set up with no sway bar and some obstacles are a little more of a pita because of it.
Rear swaybar keeps the body roll down but still has enough flex to hit your bumpstops

Front swaybar is oversized (the one on my dads conversion van is smaller) it doesnt allow any flex whatsoever. Try this, with your stock sway bar connected try and do a RTI ramp then try it again disco'd.

Thats the reason I took front swaybar completely off and it gives it a better ride
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:42 AM   #14
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I'm not going to hijack the thread, let's see if we can help this guy out with next purchase suggestions.
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$50 2in budget boost
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:30 PM   #16
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Just ordered a teraflex 2'' bb today. Wheels and the kit should arrive about the same time. Ill post pics when I install it all.
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Cheers...you will be happy with Tera stuff. I have some of their skids, good quality.
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$50 2in budget boost
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Where can I find this 25$ mml? Lowest I've discovered is 50~
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Where can I find this 25$ mml? Lowest I've discovered is 50~
I just noticed mine was on sale sorry now its back up to $50
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I just noticed mine was on sale sorry now its back up to $50
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Lifted the front end last night in a bit of spare time I had... Does anybody know the best place to get spring compressors for cheap so I can do the rear axle Saturday?
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Lifted the front end last night in a bit of spare time I had... Does anybody know the best place to get spring compressors for cheap so I can do the rear axle Saturday?
You dont need a spring compressor just disco the swaybar and shock then flex out the suspension

But if you believe you have to have a spring compressor, your local autoparts store will rent you one and all you have to do is give a deposit that you will get back after you return it.
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You dont need a spring compressor just disco the swaybar and shock then flex out the suspension

But if you believe you have to have a spring compressor, your local autoparts store will rent you one and all you have to do is give a deposit that you will get back after you return it.
Thanks ill try napa tomorrow
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Jeeps are manufactured deliberately lower than what will be stable enough for most drivers, because Consumer Reports is able to cause a flip over. This means that if you don't plan to go to 33s or 35s on your rig (which would include re-gearing the pumpkins), then cheapest most worthwhile improvement would be a low end 2" lift.
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Finished the lift, and mounting the tires on the wheels in my free time this week... Was it a bad idea to leave out the bump stop extensions on the front end so I have more travel? And any suggestions on new shocks?
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Finished the lift, and mounting the tires on the wheels in my free time this week... Was it a bad idea to leave out the bump stop extensions on the front end so I have more travel? And any suggestions on new shocks?
Yes its a bad idea to leave the bumpstops out. When you put bigger tires on your jeep your tire can be cut by the fender and even bend the fender. Also it will over compress your coils and blow your shocks when you put longer shocks on.
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Alright thanks. Ill put them on when I replace my shocks
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Okay so the lift is done, and my buddy just got done with my tires... Hopefully I can mount them Sunday.
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Looks good! I hope the weather works out for you Sunday. It looks like Jersey will get the brunt of the storm we've been watching.

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