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Old 05-13-2012, 05:56 PM   #1
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I don't know anything about Jeep Wranglers. My teenager wants one. Why? Because it looks cool of course. She, yes she...is obsessed with the Jeep. I want something reliable and safe. It was either the Jeep or a Nissan Altima. I would assume the Jeep is better in snow and ice?? Next, what model is best? I have no idea what the difference is between a Tj or yj. I would like to stay under $10,000 since this is her first car, so it would be used. What years and models are best? I'm in Tennessee. Need your honest opinions!! Thanks

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Jeeps are actually known in the insurance industry as safer than average when compared to cars. They have a heavy steel frame and heavy steel body that protects occupants better than the typical crackerjacks box unibody car does. Insurance actuarial tables show that when occupants are injured, they are on average injured less in Jeep Wranglers than in cars. Wranglers also weigh more than the average car does and you know who wins when a heavier vehicle collides with a lighter vehicle.

I'd rather my 21 year old son be in my Jeep than in a car, that is for sure.

YJ Wranglers are 95 and older and have rough riding leaf spring suspensions. I wouldn't wish one of those on anyone I liked. TJ Wranglers are '97 and newer and have much better coil spring suspensions. They handle better on the road and they do better offroad too.

So I'd stick with a '97 or newer TJ and personally, I'd go for one between '97 and '02 since a lot of things happened to 2003 and newer TJs that made them a lot more complex, harder to work on, and less reliable. My '97 TJ was stolen two years ago and my '04 replacement TJ has more problems than my '97 did.

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My wife and I just turned in our 2009 Nissan Altima after leasing it for three years. We will get another one in about six months. We also have two Jeeps. One is a 1989 YJ and the other a 2004 TJ Rubcion. Neither Jeep is a daily-driver. Of course, the Wrangler has the "cool factor" and as teenager, that is sooooo important. But, if practicality is your game, go with the Nissan. Altima's get tremendous mileageand they are extremely reliable. We live in a area with an average yearly snow fall of over 250 inches. Our terrain is extremely hilly also. We put four dedicated snow tires on our Altima (even though it was only front -wheel drive) and my wife made it every where she had to go. There were a few wicked storms where she took the Jee or my Nissan Titan truck, but for the most part the Altima got where she needed to go. The Jeep will get horrendous mileage. Insurance will be cheaper on the Altima as it is considered a sedan/family car (at least with my insurance companies). I paid less in insurance for our new Altima than I did for the 2004 Wrangler. Again, if practicality is what you are looking for, go Nissan. Gas prices are never going to get below $3.50 again. I love my Jeeps, but if I was only able to choose one vehicle to drive every day, it wouldn't be a Wrangler. I can give many good reasons for that.
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If your paying for what she wants. Get the Jeep. Top and doors off in the summer. Nothing like it!
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I got my 97 TJ in 2001 when I was 18, and it has been my daily driver since. I have enjoyed every minute of it and would recommend it to anyone.

For sure get a TJ. I have driven a few YJ's and they are not forgiving on the road.

As long as seat belts are being worn the TJ is a very safe vehicle. Keep the oil changed on the 4.0 and it will be a reliable vehicle.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:44 PM   #7
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I've heard some say the jeep.would be safer, but then others say they aren't as safe...
A little confused.
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Who is telling you they aren't safe and why?

As Jerry said... Steel frame, steel body, and I'll add roll over protection (cage). Take it from someone who had a wreck in a Jeep. A 16 yo girl pulled out in front of me in the rain. It was dark and the car (Nissan Maxima) was black. I hit her going approx 40 MPH and although my Jeep was totaled that Nissan was TRASHED and she ended up in the hospital.

I can't say I'd have fared as well had I been in an Altima... I would have likely been sent to the hospital as well.

Also keep in mind the I6 in the Wranglers is one of the most well balanced engines ever made and if properly maintained will easily see 200,000 plus some.

Happy hunting and I hope she likes her Jeep!
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I've heard some say the jeep.would be safer, but then others say they aren't as safe...
A little confused.
The insurance actuarial tables I mentioned above that classify the Wrangler as 'safer than average' and 'cause fewer serious injuries than average' don't lie.

There are some uniformed or ill-informed people that base their unsafe opinions on outdated information that doesn't apply to modern Wranglers. That was only true of old early model CJs that in some conditions, were more prone to rollovers than cars are. That isn't the case with modern Wrangler TJs and JKs that are very safe and indeed safer than most cars.
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No matter what vehicle your driving, they are all unsafe when you put 'em upside down into a big ditch, or rear-end a school bus at 55 mph... Do yourself a favor and put some extra time into teaching your teen accident avoidance and common sence when behind the wheel. And remember, texting kills more people on the road now then drinking and driving... they need to know that kind of stuff.

That aside,

I have a 1994 Wrangler YJ, have had it for a few years and have done a lot of research. I do have to admin I agree with Jerry, go with a TJ 97-2003. You won't be dissapointed.
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IMO. . . Get her the Jeep. She has the rest of her life to drive a regular ol grocery gettin' car. They're safe, they're reliable (the TJ), they're easy work on. She'll never forget it.
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IMO. . . Get her the Jeep. She has the rest of her life to drive a regular ol grocery gettin' car. They're safe, they're reliable (the TJ), they're easy work on. She'll never forget it.
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I've been driving Jeeps on and off since I started driving (at 15). I'm going to back much of what they said above. Get a low mileage TJ (2000+ if you can find it) and she should be fine. All the cool of a Jeep plus those "unnecessary extras" like doors, a top, air conditioning, etc.etc.

As much as I love my YJ, I do miss the comfortable street ride of my stock TJ.
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I read other posts stating the jeep wasnt "as safe" as a car..anyway, she will primarily be driving to and from school and work. If the weather is bad here, (icy roads) schools usually close. but I do still want her to have a vehicle "able to" handle snow and ice. No "taxi cabbing" for her friends, so interior space isn't an issue. Want something easy to work on and reasonable (cost effective) to fix. Not concerned by being able to go fast on the interstate...
I must say, I also considered a land/range rover as well.
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My wife and I just turned in our 2009 Nissan Altima after leasing it for three years. We will get another one in about six months. We also have two Jeeps. One is a 1989 YJ and the other a 2004 TJ Rubcion. Neither Jeep is a daily-driver. Of course, the Wrangler has the "cool factor" and as teenager, that is sooooo important. But, if practicality is your game, go with the Nissan. Altima's get tremendous mileageand they are extremely reliable. We live in a area with an average yearly snow fall of over 250 inches. Our terrain is extremely hilly also. We put four dedicated snow tires on our Altima (even though it was only front -wheel drive) and my wife made it every where she had to go. There were a few wicked storms where she took the Jee or my Nissan Titan truck, but for the most part the Altima got where she needed to go. The Jeep will get horrendous mileage. Insurance will be cheaper on the Altima as it is considered a sedan/family car (at least with my insurance companies). I paid less in insurance for our new Altima than I did for the 2004 Wrangler. Again, if practicality is what you are looking for, go Nissan. Gas prices are never going to get below $3.50 again. I love my Jeeps, but if I was only able to choose one vehicle to drive every day, it wouldn't be a Wrangler. I can give many good reasons for that.
I would like to know those reasons..(why not the jeep for an everyday car). Thank you for all the info you've provided :-)
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I read other posts stating the jeep wasnt "as safe" as a car..anyway, she will primarily be driving to and from school and work. If the weather is bad here, (icy roads) schools usually close. but I do still want her to have a vehicle "able to" handle snow and ice. No "taxi cabbing" for her friends, so interior space isn't an issue. Want something easy to work on and reasonable (cost effective) to fix. Not concerned by being able to go fast on the interstate...
I must say, I also considered a land/range rover as well.

Land/range rover and cost effective do not belong in the same sentence. They are no where near as easy to work on as a TJ.
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Based on the driving that your daughter will do, I love the idea of getting her a Jeep TJ. If interstate driving in the wind and snow, you need to take your time. I used to drive 50 miles one way to work on the interstate in Wisconsin. 2 inches of snow and a strong side wind was brutal.
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I highly suggest getting a wrangler TJ I got my 2004 in 2009 when I was 18 as a senior in high school. They are reliable, very safe, and you won't have to worry about her going too fast Down the highway, wranglers don't do high speeds very well. lol
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Im 17 and had my tj for a few months, although i had to put some money into to fix it up a little, im glad i bought it. There's nothing like driving around without a top or doors.
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Based on the driving that your daughter will do, I love the idea of getting her a Jeep TJ. If interstate driving in the wind and snow, you need to take your time. I used to drive 50 miles one way to work on the interstate in Wisconsin. 2 inches of snow and a strong side wind was brutal.
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I've been driving Jeeps on and off since I started driving (at 15). I'm going to back much of what they said above. Get a low mileage TJ (2000+ if you can find it) and she should be fine. All the cool of a Jeep plus those "unnecessary extras" like doors, a top, air conditioning, etc.etc.

As much as I love my YJ, I do miss the comfortable street ride of my stock TJ.
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I highly suggest getting a wrangler TJ I got my 2004 in 2009 when I was 18 as a senior in high school. They are reliable, very safe, and you won't have to worry about her going too fast Down the highway, wranglers don't do high speeds very well. lol
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I love my tj. I can't say anything about the altima since I've never even been in one. But, if you get a manual, the ability to text while driving goes down until in 5th. I bought mine 6+ months ago, my first vehicle, and wouldn't want to drive anything else.
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You asked this question on a Jeep Wrangler forum? The folks here might be a bit partial. However, I just got my 1st Jeep last year (I'm near 70 yrs. old) and I can honestly say, it is a good safe ride and a heck of a lot of fun. If your kid is going to be on the road with the other idiots, she may as well enjoy the ride.
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Get the Jeep fun vehicle to drive top off in summer and 4x4 in winter. Plus mom will probably love it and drive it as much as daughter! lol
Like mentioned before not greatest on gas but doing the driving she is doing shouldn't be a big deal. Very safe vehicle but as every car its only as safe as the driver!
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Though my jeep is my daily driver, and I have armored it up. Even stock I think I would have preferred to get into an accident in the jeep vice and compact car.
But I guess it all comes down to one question.
Who's paying for gas?
Her=Get her the Jeep
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Another reason to buy the Jeep for your daughter is no reclining seats and the back seat is really tiny. Won't stop the serious, but might deter the casual.
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You asked this question on a Jeep Wrangler forum? The folks here might be a bit partial. However, I just got my 1st Jeep last year (I'm near 70 yrs. old) and I can honestly say, it is a good safe ride and a heck of a lot of fun. If your kid is going to be on the road with the other idiots, she may as well enjoy the ride.
Yes. I asked...lol. I wanted to know why people loved their jeeps so much. I appreciate the honesty. Jeep it is.
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Another reason to buy the Jeep for your daughter is no reclining seats and the back seat is really tiny. Won't stop the serious, but might deter the casual.
Never thought of that!! Yet another reason to get the jeep!
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Though my jeep is my daily driver, and I have armored it up. Even stock I think I would have preferred to get into an accident in the jeep vice and compact car.
But I guess it all comes down to one question.
Who's paying for gas?
Her=Get her the Jeep
You=She get's the Nissan
She's paying for gas!! :-)
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I feel pretty confident going with the Jeep! Now I just have to find one that's automatic. I never realized it was more common for most jeeps (Tj) to be standard.

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