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Old 08-30-2010, 07:05 PM   #1
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super swampers

Ok I'm looking to buy 4 super swampers radials. 33x14.5 they also come with eagle alloys series 058 rims. The rims won't fit my jeep, so id sell em. Anyway he's asking 600 and they still have the nubbies on em. My questions are...

1. How's the tread wear?
2. Will a 14.5 wide tire look stupid on an 8 inch wide rim?

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Old 08-30-2010, 07:24 PM   #2
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Which Super Swamper are they exactly? Boggers? TSL? I would not recommend 14.5" tires on anything less than a 10.5" rim, 12.5" is what most of my friends run with 14.5" wide tires. As for the wear, good in the dirt and mud. Bad and very quickly if run on asphalt.

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Old 08-30-2010, 07:26 PM   #3
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Yea they're tsl. They waear really quick? And ill be using as my DD
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Super swampers don't last very long on road, I'd get them as offroad only tires and then have a on road set
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I had TSL's on my old jeep and I only got about 3-4000 miles before they were worn out, and they were so noisy I had people on the road complain about them. And I think 14.5" wide would look realy bad in a 33" tire.

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Damn. Ill probably pass on em then. I'm thinking about getting 35s. I have 4.5 inch longarm rubicon express D44 rear, and 33 splines front. With 4.10 gears. Would I need anything for 35s?
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Great tires off road....not so great on the road
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Damn. Ill probably pass on em then. I'm thinking about getting 35s. I have 4.5 inch longarm rubicon express D44 rear, and 33 splines front. With 4.10 gears. Would I need anything for 35s?

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the new super swampers m16 last long onroad
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:57 PM   #10
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Hah why are you jealous? . So anyone know if id need to get anything else? Like an inch coil spacer or anything?
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You can run 14.50s just fine on a 10in rim thats what i have and they measure 14.50. And for the noisy part...well thats for people who are scared all jeeps are noisy.
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sooooooo anyone know if my current setup will do well with 35s?
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You should be fine running 35's youll probably need to trim the flares a bit when your at a full flex
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I think you may need a little bit more lift for 35's and a regear to 4.88 and maybe sye and a cv shaft. If you dont already have it. theres lots threads on lifts and clearance and gears also.
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Damn. Ill probably pass on em then. I'm thinking about getting 35s. I have 4.5 inch longarm rubicon express D44 rear, and 33 splines front. With 4.10 gears. Would I need anything for 35s?
Those 4.10 gears are going to SUCK with those 35s....... I'd go 4.88
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how bad would the 4.10s suck? would i be able to do with the 4.10s for about till...mid january with those gears do you think? would i be able to offroad well?
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I have a buddy who got 38K out of a set of boggers...you just have to rotate them alot
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how bad would the 4.10s suck? would i be able to do with the 4.10s for about till...mid january with those gears do you think? would i be able to offroad well?
Don't get me wrong, they'll get you around. They're just WAY less than ideal when it comes to recovering your lost power due to adding the 35s. If you're going to regear in January, you'll be fine to drive the Jeep around until then on 4.10s. She's gonna be bad on gas and she'll be a bit gutless, but she'll get you from point A to point B.....
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Im in the same boat right now 35's and 4.10 i been saving money to change them. its terribly like you either rev the guts out of it in 2nd gear or dont move in 3rd on hills of course. And you will only have 4th gear on the highway I think the wind alone will slow you down in 5th. But i get around still but im in bad need of a gear swap.
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ah im just so torn! like i can drop 500 on a like new set of tires off craigslist and have those for a while OR buy 35s, deal with the powerloss for like 6 months, and regear. ultimately saving me money id think. how much will my mpg decline? i get the avg 200-240 miles a tank depending how far below E i go
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i get around 170 miles to the tank with this set up but i have hills everywhere here so im always in the wrong gear.
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She's gonna be bad on gas and she'll be a bit gutless, but she'll get you from point A to point B.....
Actually your gas mileage would improve. 4.10 is actually listed as the acceptable gearing for highway cruising and better gas mileage. Now your 5th gear is going to seem a bit underused, but you'll be fine running it until January. As for 4.88 gearing, it's the standard gearing recommended for 35 inch tires, but it's also a pro-off road gearing, providing the most power to the wheels and therefore, also a worse fuel consumption. The median at 35 inch tires is about 4.56, but if I were you and this was being used off-road as well, go up to 4.88.

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You are averaging about 9mpg, I would say that's something other then your gearing causing that.
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I've got the LT305 TSLs (They look to be close to a 33" maybe slightly bigger) on my 04 Rubicon. They are pretty loud. On my old wrangler I had Pro Comp MTs and they seemed to be maybe slightly quieter, but I couldn't tell you as far as tread wear I've only put about 1500 miles on my new jeep. I will be changing them out though in the spring probably.
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Actually your gas mileage would improve. 4.10 is actually listed as the acceptable gearing for highway cruising and better gas mileage. Now your 5th gear is going to seem a bit underused, but you'll be fine running it until January. As for 4.88 gearing, it's the standard gearing recommended for 35 inch tires, but it's also a pro-off road gearing, providing the most power to the wheels and therefore, also a worse fuel consumption. The median at 35 inch tires is about 4.56, but if I were you and this was being used off-road as well, go up to 4.88.



You are averaging about 9mpg, I would say that's something other then your gearing causing that.
Negative. The ENGINEERS at Jeep decided that 4.10s were the ideal gears for 31" tires (Rubicons). By ideal, I mean gears that are the best compromise between power and mileage. Knowing that, wouldn't you agree that running 4.10 gears with 35" tires wouldn't be ideal? It's not rocket science, man. That stupid chart you're using has been confusing people for years. There's already people WITH EXPERIENCE with running 35" tires on 4.10 gears saying it's not the way to go, and you pop in here saying they're acceptable gears for running on the highway. Experience takes the place of a VERY vague chart that's been circulating the 'net for years.
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No way I'd put swampers back on my Jeep unless I was planning to go through something that would require such a tire, and then I would swap them out when I got through. You won't get many miles of highway driving with them, been there, done that. the noise difference and power drain between AT tires and swampers is night and day. just speaking from experience.
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Naw, I got my Mazda Protege for that!
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