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Old 07-08-2007, 04:07 PM   #1
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Suspension Q's from a Newb!

Now i've seen some 4" lift kits online for around $800-$900 dollars. Am I gonna need to drop any extra money on other parts or will most of the kits out there complete the lift in full? Im debating between saving for the 4" or just doing a 2" bb lift. Im not gonna get real hardcore, this is my dd and im prolly just gonna do some trail riding and some mild off-road. I just really like the look of the 4" lifts over the 2".

btw, I dont wanna do a body lift. Purely suspension.

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Old 07-08-2007, 04:07 PM   #2
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Also if anybody can post some links to good deals on complete 4" kits that would be awesome! I dont wanna go cheap and chinsey, but I can't afford to spend a fortune either.

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Old 07-08-2007, 04:17 PM   #3
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I spent 750.00 on a procomp 4" from www.4wheelparts.com. But I need to still buy front and rear tract bars and a drop pitman arm for the front. Oh and a new stabilizer shock.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:26 PM   #4
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And if you get driveline vibrations maybe a slip yoke eliminator and driveshaft.
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I'm going to do a 4.5in lift from Rubcon Express
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...=3E91492681601
is the exact kit I want. It has the SYE included, so hopefully no headaches. It costs a bit more but I think in the long run it's the vest route for me. I like hitting the trails and I also have a lot of soft sand. The best advice someone has given me yet was, "Save if you have to, and only buy once. Don't build up to want you want." In other words, just buy everything as a functioning system, it's less expensive that way. OME Old Man Emu has a lot of nice kits also you can look at. The RE is a bit more extreme.

I'm not planning on doing hardcore off-roading but I know me, I will end up doing it anyway, too much fun not to. So I opted for the slightly more beefed up version.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:39 PM   #6
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I'm going to do a 4.5in lift from Rubcon Express
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...=3E91492681601
is the exact kit I want. It has the SYE included, so hopefully no headaches.


the website says that a SYE is required, not that it´s included.
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i would buy a 3.5" rubiucon express suspension with some good shocks like OME. the 3.5" RE has 4"-4.25" in real.

the kit costs about 550$ + some shocks.

don´t do a BB. it´s wasted money. you´ll want to install a real spring lift very fast after you installed the BB. the ride with a BB isns´t as good as most people (with a BB) say.
i still have a BB and am waiting for my ordered spring lift.
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Oops. that sucks... Well I guess I'll have to save even more. Unless you have an other idea.
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Oh, ok the SYE is only $294. Not as bad as I had feared.
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the 3.5" RE is ok with the TC drop kit that came with the suspension. 4.5" is too much for only a TC drop. i think that only works with an SYE and CV driveshaft (both costs about 550$ - http://www.4xshaft.com ).
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Oh, ok the SYE is only $294. Not as bad as I had feared.
you need teh sye AND a cv driveshaft...
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which CV drive shaft then? I couldn't tell.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:54 PM   #13
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@Brian V:

let´s start from the beginning.
which tires do you have? i mean the size?

if you're running 33x12.5x15 tires i would install the "DELUXE TJ/LJ WRANGLER KIT" from DPG for 855$ if i were you:
http://www.dpgoffroad.com/TJ_LJ_OME_Kits.htm

it´s the suspension with the best ride for a TJ.
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yet agian, I answered my own question. The 16.5" CV drive shaft. At a staggering $450. Is there such thigh as a cheap lift!? LOL
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which CV drive shaft then? I couldn't tell.
thze SYE moves the slip yoke from the driveshaft toi the TC. that´s why you need another driveshaft.
here you can read how it works:
http://www.4xshaft.com/SYE_overview.html
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And for a second I thought I was smart. Cool site though. So will that set-up work? The RE SA 4.5in SYE and 16.5in CV?
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personally i would go with this;

http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...ode=sus_tj_kit

you wont need the CV/SYE kit, you can also upgrade the shocks for $350, get a BL and MML for $100 (good deal), if u want

3" should clear 33's pretty well and if you find they rub you can always put on a BB and MML

if you have the money, you chould do this

http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...ode=sus_tj_kit
http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...egory_Code=SYE
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rough country II ~ 530 for everything.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:02 PM   #19
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rough country II ~ 530 for everything.

I believe you need the yoke eliminator and new drive shaft with rough country.
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rough country II ~ 530 for everything.
the question is if the cheapest lift kit on the marker is good enough for him...

@Chad P:

i saw in your signature that you alkready have a 4" procomp lift and 33s.

did you already order the lift? cancel it. you won´t like it. it´s very stiff and gives not a better ride than the stock suspension.
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I spent 750.00 on a procomp 4" from www.4wheelparts.com. But I need to still buy front and rear tract bars and a drop pitman arm for the front. Oh and a new stabilizer shock.
you don't need a drop pitman arm.
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I believe you need the yoke eliminator and new drive shaft with rough country.
4" lift.. comes with tranny drop kit. SYE and CV are recommended for any 4" lift so it's really up to you if you want to spend the extra green on it.

Many people say RC is perfect for them.. Usually they just need a new track bar.
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4" lift = get a sye/cv.

if you go with the 4" (which you know you want) then do it right the first time and please do not get a cheap kit. go RE 3.5" with sye/cv or the OME plus 1" BL (dirk sells a package deal)
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I don't like the idea of body lifts, and if I"ll need sye/cv why not go strait to 4.5 and get the added clearance w/o BL? I don't know too much, just trying to figure out every possible angle.
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^^Im with you. For some reason im not wild about the idea of a body lift.
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i have rusty's 4.5" lift and the sye/cv and im runnin 35's i love it was real coastly but wasent cheap and it works great
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well if you want to go big then just add a long arm kit while you're at it, it will be the best buck for your money... I wouldnt run a 4.5" suspension lift on my rig with stock control arms but thats just me.
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the question is if the cheapest lift kit on the marker is good enough for him...

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i saw in your signature that you alkready have a 4" procomp lift and 33s.

did you already order the lift? cancel it. you won´t like it. it´s very stiff and gives not a better ride than the stock suspension.
I like my procomp works good off road. You are right about the ride it a little rough. But not terrible. If I wanted stock ride quality I would have left it shock
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I don't like the idea of body lifts, and if I"ll need sye/cv why not go strait to 4.5 and get the added clearance w/o BL? I don't know too much, just trying to figure out every possible angle.
I have an RE 4.5" SuperFlex kit with 3.5" springs, and am going tobe installing the SYE & CV driveshaft this week sometime. I got it and shocks for like $1700 shipped to my house.

If you are going with an RE kit, don't get thier SYE, its a hack-n-tap and not that great of an idea where you have to cut your outputshaft.

Just save a little extra and do it right
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What would be a good SYE then, if not RE? And should I really go long arm? I've thought a lot about it, just don't know, but you're all right, might as well do it right the first time. I'm already looking at $2300 for the 4.5 kit, SYE, and CV. PLUS tires and rims... But I love my Jeep and it's not for sale so might as well. I'll just save a little more.

I can do the short arm install myself, can I do the long arm myself?

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