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Old 04-20-2013, 07:21 PM   #1
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Take bets.. 108lb 35" on the stock carrier

I drive an average of 20 miles / day, and offroad about 0.5x / month. I correctly spaced the bumpers to hold it tight. The only mods are cut off studs and rewelded 4 studs for the 5x5" wheels I have. I've heard people say over and over that it will fail, but I have a feeling that most of this is just regurgitated forum rumor, caused by incorrectly supporting the tire, and spread around by guys that post a lot. I've been on jeep forums a long time, but have yet to see a picture of a cracked holder, or bent tailgate. I've read some posts on it, but no pictures so we'll see The only carriers I like are $800+ (rock hard and genrite)

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Old 04-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #2
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Feel sorry for people behind you if it does fall off

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Old 04-20-2013, 07:48 PM   #3
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I had a my Toyo 35" Mounted to the stock location with an extender and aided with a ratchet strap and it still tore the tail gate. As soon as I noticed that I took it off.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:38 PM   #4
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I've seen tire carriers break with 32's on them. Definitely wouldn't trust it with a 35
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:56 PM   #5
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Feel sorry for people behind you if it does fall off
It's not just gonna "fall off".

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with an extender and aided with a ratchet strap
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:57 PM   #6
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I'm just curious how you made the thing fit. Mine has 29"s on it i think, not much bigger than stock. But they won't fit and clear the 3rd brake light on the carrier. My spare has a stock tire on it so it will fit. I just want to be able to just fit a spare the same size as my other tires, and still keep the functionality of the brake light.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:10 PM   #7
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You can easily space the third brake light mount. I just spaced mine up 1 1/8" and the stock bolts were even long enough
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:18 PM   #8
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I think the PO had a 35 on the gate. It's got a 1" BL, no rear brake light, and the bumper is smashed up for clearance (by him). I had a 33 on my last jeeps stock gate for almost a year before that jeep was stolen. It's a JK wheel so the backspacing is different. I needed a bit more than 3/4" spacers and I made the bottom jeep mounted spacer real tight!
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:51 PM   #9
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Funny that I'd see this. I was just four wheeling last weekend and my friend has a YJ with a 33 on the stock carrier and it cracked off while we were crossing a creek.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:01 PM   #10
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It may not fall off all at once, but over time it will likely tear up your hinges. I had to replace mine after using a tire mounted bike rack with only street driving. The new hinges held up fine but my tailgate is definitely tweaked.

My 33" is very light with a 17# MT wheel and Duratracs now, but I have a tire carrier in my future. I'm up in the air between the Bestop and OR-Fab and leaning towards the later since it completely eliminates the tailgate.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:07 PM   #11
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If you take care in how it is mounted and keep it low enough that the inboard lower tire edge rests against the bumper with a few lbs of force when you close the gate, you will not have issues with the hinges, the gate, or the stock carrier.

The stock carrier on my wife's rig carried a 35" MTR that I mounted the same way from nearly the day it was new in 01.

The stock gate works perfectly, no cracks or looseness anywhere, and the hinges are flawless.

Violate any of the rules in mounting, let the tire shake or let the gate carry all the weight free hung and it will go to hell in very short order.

I've seen stock carriers with the top lip and the two upper supports cracked in half and the whole thing about to collapse. Don't do that.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:08 PM   #12
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I highly recommend the Or Fab carrier. It isn't too expensive and it is solid.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:14 PM   #13
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I ran a 33x12.5x15 on a 15x8 steel on my stock carrier for over 3 years without a problem.
I wheeled often also.
I extended the rubber snubbers with hockey pucks and the 3rd brakelight with some nuts.
My old 33" tires and steel wheels actually weighed more than the 35" tires and alloy wheels I have now.
Maybe because my TJ is a 2004 is why I had good luck. The tailgate hinges are a little different on the newer TJ's, but not sure if it even helped any. I think you'll be fine, and am not going to take that bet.
I run a tub mounted carrier now, so there will be no wagering on my Jeep!
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Thanks, didn't realize they were seperate pieces last time I looked at them.

Also another question. I got a smittybilt I-Rack. The plate part only gets mounted when I am actually carrying stuff (roughly one day a month), but it feels kind of heavy and extends the weight farther out. In my mind that puts more leverage on the tire carrier and hinges. Will this be too much weight and break something in the long run? And can any of the hardware be reinforced in any way to prevent damage?
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Thanks, didn't realize they were seperate pieces last time I looked at them.

Also another question. I got a smittybilt I-Rack. The plate part only gets mounted when I am actually carrying stuff (roughly one day a month), but it feels kind of heavy and extends the weight farther out. In my mind that puts more leverage on the tire carrier and hinges. Will this be too much weight and break something in the long run? And can any of the hardware be reinforced in any way to prevent damage?
I know they make reinforcement hinges for JKs but I'm not sure about for a TJ. The best thing for that IMO is just get a swing out. I've had guys offer to make be one for my current bumper for $200 which would be money well spent.

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