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Old 03-16-2010, 06:20 PM   #1
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Taking doors off

taking the doors off is such a pain in the ass... anyone got any tricks that make it easier. Also, i was wondering if anyone knew about side-view mirror laws...not that its ever stopped me, but what are the actuall laws about that? thanks..

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Old 03-16-2010, 06:23 PM   #2
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use a floor jack and a piece of wood under the door. lift the floor jack with you foot and it pushes your doors out of the pins.

You need atleast one mounted mirror per state of PA police

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Laws vary between the states...most states seem to require at least a driver's side mirror, but like I said...it varies.

Here's a cool solution that I will be using...go pick up some long-stem Harley Davidson mirrors. They seem to run about $35/ea (so $70 total)...and you can just bolt em into the hole in the top door hinges while your doors are off.

As far as tricks to remove the doors... lube em up really well. If you can't get em after that...put a block of wood under the door as close to the hinges as you can and then very gently crank up a floor jack underneath them to get them started sliding up and out. DON'T use this method to pop them clear out or you may damage the door, the hinge pins, and/or the paint...just use it to get them started/loosened up. Also, keep your windows DOWN while you do it...it gives you an extra place to grab, plus the window will be less likely to get broken.
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im in NY and i know you need at least a drivers side mirror, and it was a pain in the butt to get my doors off as well, but i drove around all day today without mirrors and not one cop stopped me guess im lucky lol
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:35 PM   #5
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Calif. requires at least two mirrors, the inside & one outside mirror.
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When I got my 98 used the doors never been pulled off before so they were tight to come off,As I pull the door up I swing the door open and closed and she comes up eaiser,Lightly polish the pins and lubricate them it gets eaiser
Also before lubing be sure that there is no old factory dried grease in the hinge that makes it tight,wd40 cleans it well
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Each state is different
Here its just one mirror
capable of seeing 200 feet to the rear

I use the lower hinge to add a mirror
try any motorcycle junk yard to find
a mirror will work about 5 bucks
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All of these suggestions are good...I have full doors so I roll down the windows...It is much easier this way...Mine come right off But I used a rubber mallet to help get them started...I only did this the first time...as for mirrors I use CJ style mirrors that I mounted to the side of the jeep (I drilled and tapped)...Do they vibrate, yes but not to terribly much...This keeps me from having to mount, re-mount or re-locate...If i have time on wed the 17th I will post pics
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Here's a cool solution that I will be using...go pick up some long-stem Harley Davidson mirrors. They seem to run about $35/ea (so $70 total)...and you can just bolt em into the hole in the top door hinges while your doors are off.

That's what I use . . . actually had the stock mirrors laying around after putting new ones on the bike so the price was right! Before you shell out 35 bucks a peice, check ebay or craigslist. Most the Harley's I see have custom mirrors and you can probably pick up some stock ones that somebody has laying around much cheaper than that. Shoot, I don't think I paid that much for my custom billet mirrors that are on the bike now. I think mine are the short stem and they work fine too . . . I did turn them 90 degrees though.

If you want a little bling you can get these for less than 20 bucks!!!

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I don't think he has a problem getting them off. He's just asking for an easier way to do it. There are only so many ways. Read his post. Going mirrorless never stopped him before.
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While these may be slightly off topic, when you get mirrors, avoid those mirror relocation brackets for your stock mirrors. I did not mind them at first, but the passenger side, half the mirror is cut off so it is useless, and the doors constantly hit the mirrors.
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Sorry, I had these pics and have been dying to post 'em up. Cut a notch in a block of wood and push up. Use PB Blaster or WD-40 to loosen 'em. Keep the bottom nuts off and cut right where those nubs stick out on the hinges.

Yea, like stated, don't use the jack to pop 'em all the way off, just up a little, grab and lift.

I don't have mirrors on mine when the doors off (I should in NJ and PA) but I haven't been pulled over for it. I'm sure if I did get pulled over for another issue then it would become a massive problem.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:39 AM   #14
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Thanks for all the help guys... its much appreciated. I called up my brother and got him to come over and help me out, its just a pain in the ass. But those mirror laws are good to here. Looks like im gonna have to run over to Napa or the junkyard later today.
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I just bought my first jeep about 2 months ago and it was too cold to go doorless until a few weeks ago. When I first tried to get the doors loose off the hinges they wouldn't budge. The nuts came right off no problem. I ended up doing the trick with the board and the jack and after a little bit they popped right up. I greased the heck out of the pins and haven't had a problem since. I did not put the nuts back on just so I don't have to worry about that in the future. As for mirrors (I live in IL and you need a drivers side mirror) I haven't done anything with it and probably wont until I get stopped for it then Ill go the motorcycle mirror route.
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:03 PM   #16
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I beeing driving without mirrors for so long and never had any problem.
Thats right the first time I pulled out the doord it was a PITA .
after the 1st time they will come off easy.
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I got some mirror re-location brackets from 4wd.com (or a 4wheel parts store same company) for about 27 bucks, but before that I'd driven all over with no mirrors.. I don't think anyone but a DOT state officer would even notice.. side mirrors maybe very well be one of the least noticeable items on a car at a glance.

..as for the doors.. lube em up and you can either leave your bolts out like I do (but with the top down you risk another jeeper stealing your doors, although I think most jeep people are good people and would do it), or get some quick release bolts with a unique security head on them.
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"taking the doors off is such a pain in the ass... anyone got any tricks that make it easier".

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My doors are pretty simple to get on and OFF...can get them on or off in about 20 minutes. I might add that my doors are half doors with the window inserts.
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Picked up a 6 in round mirrow the other day at napa for lees than 12 bucks that had a bracket on it took the bottom screw out of the windshield and screwed the mirrow on worked out nice takes about 2 min to take it on and off
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The first time i held the bottom of the door and did a squat. My dad was on the other side to make sure it didnt fall. The next time I took them off I just lifted them up.....I lube it whenever I go to put it back in, and its much easier now. Roll the window down, grab the bottom of the door and the bottom of the window frame and lift.
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I leave the nuts off the pins of my half doors. It only takes about 30 seconds to pop the doors off or on. As for mirrors. What mirrors?
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My doors are pretty simple to get on and OFF...can get them on or off in about 20 minutes. I might add that my doors are half doors with the window inserts.
WOW! 20 minutes or did you mean to say 20 seconds? If there is no resistance they should be off and leaned against the garage wall in less than 30 seconds..I don't keep the nut on mine though so no unscrewing. Still though...doesn't take 20 minutes does it??

Edit: Just realized you have 4 doors so double what I said. Still though...
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WOW! 20 minutes or did you mean to say 20 seconds? If there is no resistance they should be off and leaned against the garage wall in less than 30 seconds..I don't keep the nut on mine though so no unscrewing. Still though...doesn't take 20 minutes does it??

Edit: Just realized you have 4 doors so double what I said. Still though...

Twenty minutes i defiantly pretty steep....unless you use a jack every time?
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So I went to see if I could pop my doors off the other day... no dice. I think I would have had better luck tipping the Jeep over. Gonna have to lube the crap out of the hinges and do the floor jack trick...and then lube the crap out of the hinges a little more. lol
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Wow!! I never realized people had a problem with these. I have half doors. It takes all of about 5 seconds to take them off. I keep mine lubed up with white lithium grease. It can get messy but does a real good job of making them easier to take off. I don't know if full doors are harder but I couldn't imagine the mounting hardware being any different then halfers. Maybe a little extra weight. Try some lithium grease it may help.
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I agree with joemd60....the mirror relocation brackets are a pain
but I do like having mirrors


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I agree with joemd60....the mirror relocation brackets are a pain
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I like having mirrors on the outside too, when the doors are off. I actually think the jeep looks goofy without them.
I bought a cheap, universal mirror last year from pep boys. I had to do some very minor "rigging", but it mounts up in the door hinge, and yes, it is flimsy, and it does some vibrating, but who cares. I can still see out of it in order to help me change lanes.
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Wow!! I never realized people had a problem with these. I have half doors. It takes all of about 5 seconds to take them off. I keep mine lubed up with white lithium grease. It can get messy but does a real good job of making them easier to take off. I don't know if full doors are harder but I couldn't imagine the mounting hardware being any different then halfers. Maybe a little extra weight. Try some lithium grease it may help.
I can understand the initial removal of the doors being a pain, but I agree with you....I can't imagine someone spending hours trying to get doors off, then when they finally get them off, just drop them right back down into the dry hinges. I don't own any lithium greese, but I do own a tub of red axle grease and WD-40.
I actually find it harder to put my full doors back on than to take them off. (only because it's awkward trying to line up the hinge bolts while holding on to something that weighs so much)
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That's what I use . . . actually had the stock mirrors laying around after putting new ones on the bike so the price was right! Before you shell out 35 bucks a peice, check ebay or craigslist. Most the Harley's I see have custom mirrors and you can probably pick up some stock ones that somebody has laying around much cheaper than that. Shoot, I don't think I paid that much for my custom billet mirrors that are on the bike now. I think mine are the short stem and they work fine too . . . I did turn them 90 degrees though.

If you want a little bling you can get these for less than 20 bucks!!!


If you could kindly point me in the direction of where to buy the naked lady mirrors I would be greatly appreciative....

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