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Old 02-16-2011, 03:47 PM   #1
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Question taking the doors off

i bought my jeep in the fall so ive yet to take the doors off. and i was just wondering, what makes the lights not stay on while the doors are off?

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Old 02-16-2011, 03:51 PM   #2
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You can buy little clips or pull the fuse. It disables the door alarm sound as well as the lights going on when you open the doors. However you need to make sure you turn off your headlights because it also turns off the alarm that tells you that you have left them on.

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You have several choices...find the wiring for the spring 'switch' in the door jamb and disconnect it, pull the fuse if that's all that's on that fuse (I don't know for sure-you have to check wiring diagram) or buy some switch 'clips' from Quadratec or most of the parts suppliers that clips on/over the switch to keep it 'closed'.
Personally, I don't run without doors, at least have the half doors in place...because of safety issues and not knowing about the state laws whether doors are required or not. Best not to find out with a ticket! But having been off camber a few times-haven't tipped it over but know jeepers that have...the doors are there to keep your knees inside!
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When you open the door, look between the door hinges on the inside of the door frame. You will see what looks like a button. When the door closes it pushes it in turning off your lights. If you've never taken the doors off then good luck. It can be a pain if never done before. I ended up taking the hinges off the body of the jeep and then hammering them off the door. Rather bend them instead of the door. Use some light grease when re-installing.
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Old 02-16-2011, 03:54 PM   #5
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I think it is the number 4 fuse (I might be wrong) just pull that fuse why the doors are off.
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Old 02-16-2011, 03:57 PM   #6
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This is what i use on mine. Just snap them on when doors are off and take them off when the doors are one. Simple and you dont have to take a fuse in and out.

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...the doors are there to keep your knees inside!
i dont think so... infact my hard top has a sticker saying exactly the opposite... EDIT:
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Old 02-16-2011, 04:32 PM   #8
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Just pull fuse #4... behind the glove box. It takes 4 seconds....
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You have several choices...find the wiring for the spring 'switch' in the door jamb and disconnect it, pull the fuse if that's all that's on that fuse (I don't know for sure-you have to check wiring diagram) or buy some switch 'clips' from Quadratec or most of the parts suppliers that clips on/over the switch to keep it 'closed'.
Personally, I don't run without doors, at least have the half doors in place...because of safety issues and not knowing about the state laws whether doors are required or not. Best not to find out with a ticket! But having been off camber a few times-haven't tipped it over but know jeepers that have...the doors are there to keep your knees inside!
No state requires the doors to be on. The worst is pa where a vague safety law comes into question. But you just need to show the cop that its not safety equipment and ur good.

You will need mirrors however. Get some harley ones. And for the love of god pull the fuse not the clips.

I am not a lawyer.
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Just pull fuse #4... behind the glove box. It takes 4 seconds....
Yup...simplest thing ever.

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This is what i use on mine. Just snap them on when doors are off and take them off when the doors are one. Simple and you dont have to take a fuse in and out.

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You put yours back in?? Weird...
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Just pull fuse #4... behind the glove box. It takes 4 seconds....

I must be doing something wrong because it takes me forever to get that strap back in its slot.
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If you get good you dont even need to take the glove box out...just reach behind
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so when i took off my end caps i found a stylist in the bumper. from a pda or a smart phone.
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If you get good you dont even need to take the glove box out...just reach behind
I have little hands so it's super easy
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If you're forgetful, can't/don't want to mess with the fuse box, and/or want to spend money, then buy the clips. Otherwise, pop the fuse out.

I pop the fuse out. I'm also forgetful, so I'll find myself reacting to announcements stating that "to the owner of a green Jeep Wrangler, your lights are on".

I pop the fuse back in when the weather gets cold. I can take all kinds of heat, but none of the cold.
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I used to use the clips, until I got drunk and lost one at a party one night. Was too drunk to pull the fuse, so I ended up disconnecting the battery so that I could start my car in the morning. If you don't want to fuss with pulling the fuse out when you take the doors off, just pick up the switch:

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I bought some fuse clips on eBay, bridged no. 4 fuse and installed a switch in the dash. Cost about $15.00.
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I used to use the clips, until I got drunk and lost one at a party one night. Was too drunk to pull the fuse, so I ended up disconnecting the battery so that I could start my car in the morning. If you don't want to fuss with pulling the fuse out when you take the doors off, just pick up the switch:

Quadratec Exclusive JW-DLB - TJ Dome Light Switch for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec
So since you went through all that trouble, you probably won't see much humor knowing on most Wranglers (or at least the newer Wranglers), the dome light shuts off after about 10 min or so even if the fuse is in and door switches are connected...
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I've seen this debate time and again and always wondered...why not just remove the bulb . If the fuse takes 4 seconds the bulb can't take more than 10. And you're headlight chime isn't disabled.
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This isn't my idea, but it is hands down my favorite mod.

Just push the botton in, take a small drill bit and drill through (avoid the rubber ring). Get a paper clip and snip it, add a small bend a veiola! Those paper clips just live under my floormats when I have doors on. When I yank them off I just push the stopper in and add the paper clip, 2 seconds.

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i dont think so... infact my hard top has a sticker saying exactly the opposite... EDIT:
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How does that translate in any language to saying the opposite? It SAYS in plain english "protection against the elements" and 'elements' are rocks, trees, bushes...what the company is saying it WON'T do is offer structural protection against damage in a roll over or accident-so that you can't SUE the company.
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If you're forgetful, can't/don't want to mess with the fuse box, and/or want to spend money, then buy the clips. Otherwise, pop the fuse out.

I pop the fuse out. I'm also forgetful, so I'll find myself reacting to announcements stating that "to the owner of a green Jeep Wrangler, your lights are on".

I pop the fuse back in when the weather gets cold. I can take all kinds of heat, but none of the cold.
If your forgetful, you could also forget to take the clips off when you put the doors back on... one good slam and they don't work any more...

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When you open the door, look between the door hinges on the inside of the door frame. You will see what looks like a button. When the door closes it pushes it in turning off your lights. If you've never taken the doors off then good luck. It can be a pain if never done before. I ended up taking the hinges off the body of the jeep and then hammering them off the door. Rather bend them instead of the door. Use some light grease when re-installing.
The first Time I took the doors of my 98 was in 2007, on the day I bought it. I'm pretty sure it was the first time the doors had ever been off. It took over an hour to wiggle the doors loose. Needless to say I managed to break all for hinges in the process. I can now take both doors off in under a minute. Moving the mirrors takes a few extra becasue I have to dig out my 17mm socket and line them up so I can see.

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I used to use the clips, until I got drunk and lost one at a party one night. Was too drunk to pull the fuse, so I ended up disconnecting the battery so that I could start my car in the morning. If you don't want to fuss with pulling the fuse out when you take the doors off, just pick up the switch:

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2 things:

1) You could unbolt the battery cable but you couldn't pull a fuse?
2) I love this set up, and I bought it, but the plugin they give you would not stay for me. I popped the original fuse, ground the plastic down to expose the pins and soldered the wire to that. then used the switch and inline fuse in the kit.
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How does that translate in any language to saying the opposite? It SAYS in plain english "protection against the elements" and 'elements' are rocks, trees, bushes...what the company is saying it WON'T do is offer structural protection against damage in a roll over or accident-so that you can't SUE the company.
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1. atmospheric agencies or forces; weather

depends on how you look at it, I dont see them meaning protection from rocks, trees, etc but just weather
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depends on how you look at it, I dont see them meaning protection from rocks, trees, etc but just weather
Well they protect you from branches scraping and slapping you on the trails.... and they do work pretty well for holding out water in the puddles. And keeping the mud off.... I wouldn't want to wheel without my half doors on. But on road..... that's a whole 'nuther ball game.. No doors is a zillion times better than half doors on road.. Took me a year to finally decide to pull 'em off... Boy I wish I could get that year back.
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How does that translate in any language to saying the opposite? It SAYS in plain english "protection against the elements" and 'elements' are rocks, trees, bushes...what the company is saying it WON'T do is offer structural protection against damage in a roll over or accident-so that you can't SUE the company.
i was referring to the fact that you said " the doors are there to KEEP YOUR KNEES INSIDE" when the sticker reads "Do NOT rely on the TOP AND DOORS to CONTAIN occupants WITHIN the vehicle or to PROTECT AGAINST INJURY during an accident."

"elements"=PRECIPITATION (ie mud, water, snow, rain, etc.) NOT rocks trees and bushes
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depends on how you look at it, i dont see them meaning protection from rocks, trees, etc but just weather

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Thanks to this thread I figured out that all I needed was a 10 amp fuse to get my lights working again. Thanks!
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i say pull the fuse. thats what it was designed for. i never put mine back in but its not hard to take out and put back.
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So since you went through all that trouble, you probably won't see much humor knowing on most Wranglers (or at least the newer Wranglers), the dome light shuts off after about 10 min or so even if the fuse is in and door switches are connected...
It must be the real new ones because I have never seen a TJ that will do this.
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It must be the real new ones because I have never seen a TJ that will do this.
My 02 does it...the dome light kicks off after 10-20 minutes of staying on with the doors open...and I talked to my buddy who's one of the owners/salesmen at the dealership and he was under the impression all TJ's did it. I'm thinking early TJ's probably didn't...but not sure what year they began implementing that feature.

Granted that would still be an annoyance for 10-20 looooong minutes...but at least you know your battery won't die when you're in a pinch...lol

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