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Old 04-05-2012, 01:08 AM   #1
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Ok so I just got this tj today and wondering what you Guys think and what you see

I'll put more pics up tomorrow got late


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Dang that looks nice! Looks like pretty high quality parts and great overall look too!

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i like it alot
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Thanks guys I like a lot to here's a little vid

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army or marines?
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army or marines?
Marines they guy I bought it from was a sniper as you can tell from the front window in kind of thinking of taking some of the stuff off since I haven't earned the right to it you know but well see what I do
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Marines they guy I bought it from was a sniper as you can tell from the front window in kind of thinking of taking some of the stuff off since I haven't earned the right to it you know but well see what I do

its your choice but ya its frowned apon.. I say its yours and nothing wrong with supporting the troops.. Good luck and nice rig
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There is a bolt missing from the front side of the truss on the 8.8. Probably due to whoever installed the bracket kit to swap it in not getting the swaybar brackets in the right spot.

The backside of the truss appears to be missing the brace that goes down to the diff cover bolts. If it is and you force the front hard to climb a waterfall or similar, you will fold up the truss.

The engagement on the slip spline at the rear driveshaft should be checked. It looks like it has a lot of spline showing. If it has minimal engagement, it will wear much faster and need replaced sooner.

I would support the frame on jackstands, pull the rear tires and droop it out to see if the CV is binding. It's operating at a pretty severe angle.

The front swaybar is interesting. Looks to be aftermarket with eyes turned horizontal. Wonder whose it is?

Overall, the rig is overly tall for my tastes. It has a long arm kit and even then my first impression was that it was on a lift in a shop somewhere due to how much angle the arms had.

That tire and rim combo is hard to balance and keep balanced. Keep an eye on that because even a slight shimmy will wear parts in the front end pretty fast.

F/T is a pretty decent company, but they have had some issues with joint longevity. Give 'em a good going over to see how they are doing.

I would also see what it takes to get the rear swaybar back in there.
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There is a bolt missing from the front side of the truss on the 8.8. Probably due to whoever installed the bracket kit to swap it in not getting the swaybar brackets in the right spot.

The backside of the truss appears to be missing the brace that goes down to the diff cover bolts. If it is and you force the front hard to climb a waterfall or similar, you will fold up the truss.

The engagement on the slip spline at the rear driveshaft should be checked. It looks like it has a lot of spline showing. If it has minimal engagement, it will wear much faster and need replaced sooner.

I would support the frame on jackstands, pull the rear tires and droop it out to see if the CV is binding. It's operating at a pretty severe angle.

The front swaybar is interesting. Looks to be aftermarket with eyes turned horizontal. Wonder whose it is?

Overall, the rig is overly tall for my tastes. It has a long arm kit and even then my first impression was that it was on a lift in a shop somewhere due to how much angle the arms had.

That tire and rim combo is hard to balance and keep balanced. Keep an eye on that because even a slight shimmy will wear parts in the front end pretty fast.

F/T is a pretty decent company, but they have had some issues with joint longevity. Give 'em a good going over to see how they are doing.

I would also see what it takes to get the rear swaybar back in there.
Damn you know your s&@t yea I'm taking it to a 4x4 shop I go to today after work and have them give it a look over the tires are 36s which are huge coming from 32s I'm thinking of down grading to 35s I'll look over all the things you've mentioned thanks
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Damn you know your s&@t yea I'm taking it to a 4x4 shop I go to today after work and have them give it a look over the tires are 36s which are huge coming from 32s I'm thinking of down grading to 35s I'll look over all the things you've mentioned thanks
No worries and I'm pleasantly surprised you took my comments as there were intended, just the observation you asked for.

Also, looking again, that rear most bolt that holds the belly side up was bothering me, but the pic wasn't clear until I looked at the first one again.

It's not threaded in all the way. They typically means the last person who dropped the belly skid boogered up the nut-serts that the bolts screw into and now it's stuck in the nutsert.

Those bolts on the side all go into nutserts and you can reach inside and grab the end with a pair of needle nose visegrips to help get the bolts out. It's best to replace all of them at the same time and if you need help sourcing them, I'm pretty sure they are 3/8-16 in the longer grip range and I probably have some you are welcome to.
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No worries and I'm pleasantly surprised you took my comments as there were intended, just the observation you asked for.

Also, looking again, that rear most bolt that holds the belly side up was bothering me, but the pic wasn't clear until I looked at the first one again.

It's not threaded in all the way. They typically means the last person who dropped the belly skid boogered up the nut-serts that the bolts screw into and now it's stuck in the nutsert.

Those bolts on the side all go into nutserts and you can reach inside and grab the end with a pair of needle nose visegrips to help get the bolts out. It's best to replace all of them at the same time and if you need help sourcing them, I'm pretty sure they are 3/8-16 in the longer grip range and I probably have some you are welcome to.
Yea I appreciate you taking the time to look at the pics and I'm not offended by what you said I'm looking for opinions and you pointed out things I didn't notice I'll take better pics today in the afternoon thanks
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Yea I appreciate you taking the time to look at the pics and I'm not offended by what you said I'm looking for opinions and you pointed out things I didn't notice I'll take better pics today in the afternoon thanks
If you're taking requests, I'd like a better view of the bolt and whatever they are using for a washer on the other side of the truss at the lower part.

A good pic of the CV to see how close to bind it is.

Back of the diff to see if the brace is there.

Better pics of the belly skid bolts

How the front swaybar mounts.

Full clear shot of the front showing the steering.

If the shop can pull the pinion end of the rear driveshaft and compress it to see how much travel it has, a pic of that would be nice, but not necessary.

Pic of the rear swaybar links. I can see one, not the other so I don't know if both are there and can be used with the new rear bar. The one looks to be pretty short.
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Also, I can't see the springs and shocks very well, but what I can see looks to show that there is not much in the way of bumpstops. I don't know if you can even bottom out the shocks with that much spring, but it's better to be safe than ruin your shocks.
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Marines they guy I bought it from was a sniper as you can tell from the front window in kind of thinking of taking some of the stuff off since I haven't earned the right to it you know but well see what I do
Oh brother, if he was I doubt he would have USMC and US Army on the same vehicle. Not to hijack the thread, but there are so many phonies out there you would be amazed, right now Navy Seal Imposters seem to be the biggest bunch.
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Oh brother, if he was I doubt he would have USMC and US Army on the same vehicle. Not to hijack the thread, but there are so many phonies out there you would be amazed, right now Navy Seal Imposters seem to be the biggest bunch.
Did you consider the possibility that his wife outranked him in the ARMY and she requested some decals?
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Oh brother, if he was I doubt he would have USMC and US Army on the same vehicle. Not to hijack the thread, but there are so many phonies out there you would be amazed, right now Navy Seal Imposters seem to be the biggest bunch.
Well Actually his brother is in the army still so he put the army sticker on I asked the same thing

But I do plan on taking off the army sticker kinda throws things off
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Have to say the reason I joined this forum is because of people like Black Magic Brakes! Its awesome he took the time to put his .02 worth in! Hats off to you!
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If you don't mind me asking, how much did ya pay?
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Have to say the reason I joined this forum is because of people like Black Magic Brakes! Its awesome he took the time to put his .02 worth in! Hats off to you!
Agreed the wealth of knowledge is very appreciated this is why I post for opinions
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If you don't mind me asking, how much did ya pay?
I trade my tj plus cash but it was a deal I couldn't pass I got my tj for 7k like this and I added 1500 to me it was a no brainier the full traction kit alone was worth it plus I had the d30/35 this has d30/8.8 plus a lot more

So technically I paid 8500
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also looks like a big mixture of grade 8 and grade 5 bolts, with washers compensating for bolt lengths.

and what about the rear swaybar link, there is no need for it hanging there being 4 linked right?

and like said, the driveshaft splines are extended a lot, and shouldn't it be covered to prevent crap from working its way down there?

I like the set up, maybe take it down a notch tire/lift wise?

on the Marine Corps thing...I personally could careless if you run decals and lettering advertising the USMC, that's respectful to a degree, as long as one doesn't try to portray serving. The sniper thing...that's another story, when your taught years of stealth, cover, concealment, and blending with your environment, to put 2" tall letters with an exclamation point makes no sense to me.

Its a cool jeep that definitely has the potential to be made your own, its all about tastes if the drive train checks out.
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also looks like a big mixture of grade 8 and grade 5 bolts, with washers compensating for bolt lengths.

and what about the rear swaybar link, there is no need for it hanging there being 4 linked right?

and like said, the driveshaft splines are extended a lot, and shouldn't it be covered to prevent crap from working its way down there?

I like the set up, maybe take it down a notch tire/lift wise?

on the Marine Corps thing...I personally could careless if you run decals and lettering advertising the USMC, that's respectful to a degree, as long as one doesn't try to portray serving. The sniper thing...that's another story, when your taught years of stealth, cover, concealment, and blending with your environment, to put 2" tall letters with an exclamation point makes no sense to me.

Its a cool jeep that definitely has the potential to be made your own, its all about tastes if the drive train checks out.
I'm taking it to the shop today and have them look it over an check the things brought up and I agree I'm going to downsize a bit maybe 35s if I can work a trade wit someone but I'll keep it updated and add pics
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I drove it home 4hrs on the freeway and it drove great a lot of power wit the 488 gears took a while to get used to it tho I did tho a weight and my tire became unbalanced so I have to balance the tire today
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even it you street tire'd it you would have some nice (look almost new) off road skins if you kept them
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even it you street tire'd it you would have some nice (look almost new) off road skins if you kept them
Yea but can the d30 handle 36s locked I hear 35s is the limit
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also looks like a big mixture of grade 8 and grade 5 bolts, with washers compensating for bolt lengths.

and what about the rear swaybar link, there is no need for it hanging there being 4 linked right?
Technically it's a tri-link because the uppers are unable to be separated and that has no bearing on the rear swaybar being useful.

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and like said, the driveshaft splines are extended a lot, and shouldn't it be covered to prevent crap from working its way down there?
Depends on your area. We can't cover them because the rocks shred the boots almost immediately.
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Technically it's a tri-link because the uppers are unable to be separated and that has no bearing on the rear swaybar being useful.

Depends on your area. We can't cover them because the rocks shred the boots almost immediately.
Insightful so by the pics does everything look legit aside from what you pointed out
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Insightful so by the pics does everything look legit aside from what you pointed out
It's difficult for me to offer up much other than what the mechanical looks like. In our area, that rig would be way too tall and suffer from the rim and tire selection. For us, it would benefit from less bow in the rear springs and no more than about 4" of spring lift and those shock relocation lower brackets would have to go.

That is probably not applicable for your wheeling.
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My guess is the Jeep's name is "Sniper".
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It's difficult for me to offer up much other than what the mechanical looks like. In our area, that rig would be way too tall and suffer from the rim and tire selection. For us, it would benefit from less bow in the rear springs and no more than about 4" of spring lift and those shock relocation lower brackets would have to go.

That is probably not applicable for your wheeling.
Ok I want to start more serious wheeling and crawling thats why I traded it was far more capable then my tj so to accomplish this would would I need more or less to add

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