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Old 08-07-2010, 07:28 PM   #1
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So i been challenged to do a sand hill climb next weekend from some guys at work. Im just not sure i got the tires for it. toyo open country m/t 35's. has anyone tryed these on sand hills. i have a 2003 rubicon any help would be great.

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You should be okay, just make sure you air down low enough and remember to air back up before hitting the pavement again.

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what kind of sand? that light beach stuff, heavy watery crap, or that grainy, mud/wash stuff?

I can tell you MT's are good in it all, but I don't know about the light beachy stuff.

4hi, 2nd, let er rip! air down like JDS mentioned, you'll rock.

what are you up against? another Jeep? it have mudders or anything?
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I've done quite a bit of cruising on the dunes with all terrain tires and my jeep has done great. Just air it way down and keep it in 4-hi then pin the throttle and don't let up unless you come to a stop- then let up quick or you will immediately bury your axles and have to dig, or worse be pulled out by your mocking buddies.

Probably the greatest limiting factor is the approach, if it's all whooped out like a dirtbike track then it's hard to build enough speed... Let us know how it goes.
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The sand i would say is kinda clumpy and damp underneath with some small stones. and for the people who will be going well im english and all the locals are french and dont like english people. So they will probley gather cause the place im going is st jean vianney. Its an old village that was wiped out by a mud slide and now its just a haven for mudding and off roading its about 20 mins from my house. but its always full of crazys who bring there trailer queens and love ripping and tearing around. I been there a few times but i normally try to stay away cause its not really a friendly group for me as i cant even understand them cause i dont speak french . Anyways here is a video of a group of guys who hang out there.

some big trucks hang out back there


and they destroy are car or 2 like this every weekend personally i dont get it.
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thick sand and mudders go together like peas and carrots. if the Frenchys have AT tires, the thicker and deeper, the more advantage you'll have.

I hope you beat them, and I think you will. a light jeep on mudders vs. a heavy truck on whatever. you'll float across the watery stuff, and they'll dig due to their weight. unless they're on 40" boggers, I really can't see a jeep on 35's getting outdone by some oversized redneck short bus.

keep on the throttle. that's the trick to muddin' and sand. speed, and momentum are your biggest weapons against it. 4hi and 2nd gear, shut ESP completely off, mud tires, 35x12.5, jeep, some gas pedal...I've conquered mud nearly over my tires.

you should take this. make them wash your jeep up after you win. I'm a 2nd generation American with 100% English background. don't let those Frenchys show ya up
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To bad you didnt live here you could come with me. I will be glad to get posted to a english place.
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Make sure to air way down, I wouldn't even try it unless the tires were at 8-10 psi. And be sure to use 4Hi as the others said, you need wheel speed and a huge tire footprint for a sand hill climb.
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Cinch up your seatbelt tight when you start- the less you slide in the seat, the more you'll be able to focus on what you're doing.

If you hit standing water-put your foot down.

If you slow to a crawl in the mud, start 'sawing' your front wheels-a little left-right wiggling will get your sidewall lugs in on the action and help you out.

And above all- HAVE FUN!
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ok, this may be a stupid question so don't hold it against me. I don't have a rubicon so i'm not sure how the lockers work. but as I understand it won't the lockers disengage at some speed? without a mod? I know i've seen things on ebay that are susposed to override that?

I was just thinking even though you won't be going that fast wheel spin can get very fast.
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I havent done the mod yet but im going to grab a switch from work and rig it up so im fully locked in 4 hi. The speed over ride that you are talking about is so that you dont try to engage them above a certian speed. I think its like 15 mph or something like that. But once you are engaged you can go as fast as you want. I will do a thread on it when i do the mod cause i plan on talking a picture or the switch i install. Im going to call it the HOLY S$%T SWITCH.

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Frenchies? Are they from San Francisco?
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I wish cause im sure if they were from san francisco they would be able to speak more than just french. imagine living in a world of dubbed schwarzenegger and stallone. Oh and dont even get me started on french chuck norris.
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I wish cause im sure if they were from san francisco they would be able to speak more than just french. imagine living in a world of dubbed schwarzenegger and stallone. Oh and dont even get me started on french chuck norris.
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let us know how it goes man! pics and video for sure
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I would venture to say if it is sand, I would go way lower than 10 PSI, even without beadlocks. I would go 5-7 PSI and hammer down if it is a straight hill climb. I run my rig in Glamis at 3PSI front, 2PSI rear with beadlocks and hardly EVER need 4WD all weekend. Even on China Wall and $100 Hill.
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So this is actually a CHOW-LANGE?
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I would venture to say if it is sand, I would go way lower than 10 PSI, even without beadlocks. I would go 5-7 PSI
Don't forget he's not running Krawlers as you do, I doubt his Toyos could remain reliably seated at 5-7 psi.
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That was not with my 39" Krawlers. Set of 37" Comp Claws(AWESOME in the dunes!). Back in the day, I did run 35" BFG MTs on non-beadlocks at 7PSI all the time in the rocks though. Never lost a bead.
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The sand i would say is kinda clumpy and damp underneath with some small stones. and for the people who will be going well im english and all the locals are french and dont like english people. So they will probley gather cause the place im going is st jean vianney. Its an old village that was wiped out by a mud slide and now its just a haven for mudding and off roading its about 20 mins from my house. but its always full of crazys who bring there trailer queens and love ripping and tearing around. I been there a few times but i normally try to stay away cause its not really a friendly group for me as i cant even understand them cause i dont speak french . Anyways here is a video of a group of guys who hang out there.

some big trucks hang out back there


and they destroy are car or 2 like this every weekend personally i dont get it.
Wow, and people think American rednecks are idiots. I guess stupid knows no borders or languages.

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