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Old 08-15-2012, 10:33 PM   #1
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So tomorrow I will be buying my first Wrangler! It will be a bright yellow 2000 TJ with a Bestop 2 piece hard top and half doors with bestop slider toppers.

I'm a little concerned about the jeep being stolen, though. My girlfriend lives in a not so nice part of Buffalo, and a bright yellow Wrangler might draw some attention. It's got an aftermarket radio in it, but I don't think it's particularly nice. It's all stock otherwise.

So with the hard top and half doors/soft toppers, do you think I have to worry about someone just removing the soft toppers and hopping in?

Also do you think the bright yellow will make it less desirable for thieves (because it stands out so much as opposed to something more common), or do you think it will be more desirable just because it will catch their eye?

I may be just paranoid, since this is going to be my first vehicle in general!

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Alarm it and install a starter cut out switch!

Enjoy!

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Old 08-15-2012, 11:03 PM   #3
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Alarm it and install a starter cut out switch!

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Any recommendation for a cheap alarm system?
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I suppose you can also add a hood lock, and probably a gas cap lock. I came out of work once to my hood being completely opened and resting on the windshield frame. I just got a stock 4.0 so I didn't think thieves were interested in the motor. Perhaps they wanted to try and cob my optima redtop with corroded terminals. I also thought they might have added something into the oil that shouldn't be mixed with it. Jeep turned on fine but I did notice a bent battery post.

It looks like a pain to open the hood lock with a key all the time but I also live in a rural area so therefor I would prefer spending an extra minute unlocking the hood than spending a pretty penny on engine parts.
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So tomorrow I will be buying my first Wrangler! It will be a bright yellow 2000 TJ with a Bestop 2 piece hard top and half doors with bestop slider toppers.

I'm a little concerned about the jeep being stolen, though. My girlfriend lives in a not so nice part of Buffalo, and a bright yellow Wrangler might draw some attention. It's got an aftermarket radio in it, but I don't think it's particularly nice. It's all stock otherwise.

So with the hard top and half doors/soft toppers, do you think I have to worry about someone just removing the soft toppers and hopping in?

Also do you think the bright yellow will make it less desirable for thieves (because it stands out so much as opposed to something more common), or do you think it will be more desirable just because it will catch their eye?

I may be just paranoid, since this is going to be my first vehicle in general!
Only thing I would worry about it other drivers thinking your jeep is the sun lol. I've had people almost side swipe me in broad daylight in the summer when I go out driving. It's like we blend in to the sun or something
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:57 AM   #6
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Yeah never go cheap, there is an alarm called clifford. 300 or so and you have to put in code before you drive it or it will shut off on you with bells and whistles going off.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:12 AM   #7
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Yeah never go cheap, there is an alarm called clifford. 300 or so and you have to put in code before you drive it or it will shut off on you with bells and whistles going off.
Gama can you send me some info on this please?
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Gama can you send me some info on this please?

SURE you can go to any alarm shop ask if they have clifford, ive had this alarm on two of my cars never had a break in, very good alarm.

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Thanks for the suggestions everybody. I should be getting some money in a few weeks, hopefully the jeep can fend for itself until then.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:33 AM   #10
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I would not leave any valuables in the Jeep. An alarm won't prevent a thief from a smash/grab, especially these days when people are numb to alarms going off. At least you have a hardtop which provides better security than plastic windows. I had Autopage alarms in all of our vehicles currently and in the past. It's a little cheaper than the higher end like Viper but has never failed me. I put one on my Jeep with interior motion sensor, power door locks, ign. kill, shock sensor for about $320 installed.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:55 AM   #11
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An issue with the Jeep and an alarm is also the power supply. Pop the hood and clip the wires and it is dead. Not that getting under the hood of any vehicle is difficult, it is real easy with the Jeep. Yes you can get hood locks, but they are a PITA and the battery can be accessed fron the underside. More elaborate setups can add a hidden back up battery.

One of the simplest things is add a kill switch. The ASD circuit is what you want to cut. A "Loud" Twist On The Kill Switch Mod - JeepForum.com You do not have to do this full blown system. Just use the diagram to identify what wire to cut for your year and put a switch somewhere on the inside. If you are shy about doing it all yourself, there is a kit available. Quadratec sells it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:37 PM   #12
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My last jeep was stolen and it had a kill switch. My current jeep is locked down. Full doors are on all the time because you can lock them and its harder to climb in the back. I have a pager alarm that works from far away and has a starter cut and motion detection that will beep if you get within a foot of the jeep. All my ignition wires are wrapped in electrical tape, edge to edge zip ties across the entire wire bundle. Covered that with duct tape, then bailing wire and then more duct tape. All the ignition wires and the kill switch wires are in that bundle and there is no possible access without spending 10 minutes cutting the 'protection' off of that. I also made my doors 'slim jim proof' because you can jimmy a jeep door in 2 seconds. There are 2 other anti theft tricks, but I don't tell anybody about those.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:12 PM   #13
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This is just a little bump to tell everyone how excited I am to pick up my Jeep tomorrow afternoon!

I'm terrible at driving stick; I've only done it twice for about 10 minutes each time.

I will be learning on the way back from the dealership.
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This is just a little bump to tell everyone how excited I am to pick up my Jeep tomorrow afternoon!

I'm terrible at driving stick; I've only done it twice for about 10 minutes each time.

I will be learning on the way back from the dealership.
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If you're worried about the Jeep itself being stolen, bring the fuel pump relay inside with you. Used to do that with my GTI back in the day. Who carries one of those, or would even notice it was missing in the hurry of trying to get it started??

If you're worried about the stuff inside, don't leave any stuff inside, post a sign in both doors that says "unlocked" and leave it unlocked.
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If you're worried about the Jeep itself being stolen, bring the fuel pump relay inside with you. Used to do that with my GTI back in the day. Who carries one of those, or would even notice it was missing in the hurry of trying to get it started??

If you're worried about the stuff inside, don't leave any stuff inside, post a sign in both doors that says "unlocked" and leave it unlocked.
Where is the relay located?
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In the fuse box under the hood. Pulls out and reinstalls without tools.
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In the fuse box under the hood. Pulls out and reinstalls without tools.
That's sweet!!!
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I'm lucky enough where I live I've never had anythign messed with *knock on wood*

I'll go out downtown for a night of bar hopping, park the jeep top down doors off and come back and everything is hunky dory. Olympia, WA is a pretty chill place.

And, my house is way out in the boonies, so I don't even worry about leaving it outside with the doors off and stuff.
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Little update.

Got my wrangler. Might make a post with some pictures soon. Turns out the people at the dealer forgot to put new locks on the doors, so right now I can't lock the damn thing. I cleaned everything out of the glove box and stuff and I took the fuel pump relay out. Now I will cross my fingers.
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Little update.

Got my wrangler. Might make a post with some pictures soon. Turns out the people at the dealer forgot to put new locks on the doors, so right now I can't lock the damn thing. I cleaned everything out of the glove box and stuff and I took the fuel pump relay out. Now I will cross my fingers.
There was a thread not long ago about NOT locking the doors. The top is too expensive (say, ~$800) to risk someone cutting it. The majority agreed with 'leave it unlocked with no valuables inside.'
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I'm not sure a 12 year old Jeep is going to be a real target for thieves, especially in the intercity. I dont see a lot of gangbangers driving around in Jeeps, let alone older ones that are bright yellow. As long as there are no valuables in sight, youve likely got nothing to worry about.
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I'm not sure a 12 year old Jeep is going to be a real target for thieves, especially in the intercity. I dont see a lot of gangbangers driving around in Jeeps, let alone older ones that are bright yellow. As long as there are no valuables in sight, youve likely got nothing to worry about.
Yea so you think. You know jerry bransford's old tj was stolen awhile back.
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Yea so you think. You know jerry bransford's old tj was stolen awhile back.
But I believe that one was stolen by drug cartels. I may be wrong but a read an article about drug cartels stealing jeeps from southern CA to transport drugs across the desert. I personally have my top off most of the time, never lock my doors, and leave stuff inside my jeep. Just the way its always been in my smallish town
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But I believe that one was stolen by drug cartels. I may be wrong but a read an article about drug cartels stealing jeeps from southern CA to transport drugs across the desert. I personally have my top off most of the time, never lock my doors, and leave stuff inside my jeep. Just the way its always been in my smallish town
And that's because you live in a smallish town. Here in Santa abs, compton, and east LA its a whole different monster.
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I don't know if Buffalo, NY can compare to any of those cities. Probably pretty tame by these standards. Just petty thieves, probably. Mostly worried about the mediocre aftermarket cd player I have in there. Wouldn't be a tragedy if it was stolen, as it's essentially the dealer's fault that I couldn't lock the doors. They would probably replace it.

Also I have a hard top so I'm not that worried about someone slicing to get in. I don't know if anything in there is really worth any more trouble than just trying to open the door anyway.
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I don't know if Buffalo, NY can compare to any of those cities. Probably pretty tame by these standards. Just petty thieves, probably. Mostly worried about the mediocre aftermarket cd player I have in there. Wouldn't be a tragedy if it was stolen, as it's essentially the dealer's fault that I couldn't lock the doors. They would probably replace it.

Also I have a hard top so I'm not that worried about someone slicing to get in. I don't know if anything in there is really worth any more trouble than just trying to open the door anyway.
Go Clifford and be done with it
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I don't know if Buffalo, NY can compare to any of those cities. Probably pretty tame by these standards. Just petty thieves, probably. Mostly worried about the mediocre aftermarket cd player I have in there. Wouldn't be a tragedy if it was stolen, as it's essentially the dealer's fault that I couldn't lock the doors. They would probably replace it.

Also I have a hard top so I'm not that worried about someone slicing to get in. I don't know if anything in there is really worth any more trouble than just trying to open the door anyway.
If I'm unlucky enough for my stereo to be stolen, I've already planned for its successor. I rarely listen to the radio, and never CDs, so all I'm really using is the amplifier. If the stereo goes missing, I'm installing a blank panel to make it look like there's no stereo at all. I'll use that space for a small 4-channel amp and just have an aux-in wired into an inconspicuous place inside to plug my phone into. I'll likely go marine-grade to I don't have to worry about rain, either. Rain seems a more likely reason my existing stereo will bite the dust...
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If I'm unlucky enough for my stereo to be stolen, I've already planned for its successor. I rarely listen to the radio, and never CDs, so all I'm really using is the amplifier. If the stereo goes missing, I'm installing a blank panel to make it look like there's no stereo at all. I'll use that space for a small 4-channel amp and just have an aux-in wired into an inconspicuous place inside to plug my phone into. I'll likely go marine-grade to I don't have to worry about rain, either. Rain seems a more likely reason my existing stereo will bite the dust...
Yeah I'm not terribly concerned. All I need is an aux for my phone/iPod. It would just be unfortunate for it to be stolen. Oh well. I'll scope it out tomorrow morning. It'll probably be fine.
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And that's because you live in a smallish town. Here in Santa abs, compton, and east LA its a whole different monster.
Ah yes the mean streets of Huntington, no one is safe....

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