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Old 02-09-2011, 07:09 AM   #1
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think i finally got it..

so ive been doing my research about lifts and everything you need to do and i firgured id right it out on here and see if i was wrong about anything so you guys can correct me, well anyway here goes:

i have a 2003 wrangler x, its already got a 2 inch suspension lift(not sure what kind, i bought it like this) and im running 33x 12.5 super swamper tsl

i plan on getting the 4 inch suspension lift from rough country the one thats $500, i have a few questions about this, it says it comes with a transfer case drop, from my understanding and what ive read, you need to do this to help with vibrations? i was also reading that if you do a body lift then the transfer case drop is unnecessary? but then if you do the body lift your fan shroud or something like that wont be aligned so if you do a motor mount lift, it will re align everything and youll be ok? if all this is correct which would be the correct order to do everything in? which goes first? moter mount lift? body lift? suspension lift? 2nd? etc.

please correct me if im wrong with anything i said, and thanks for the advice everyone this forum has helped me ALOT

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Old 02-09-2011, 09:06 AM   #2
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Do a bit more homework.
If you put in a 4" suspension you will be changing the pinion angle and that puts the DS at angles that can cause vibrations. Putting on a body lift has no effect on those angles...a Tcase drop or a SYE can help change the angle problem. Putting a body lift on lifts the body away from the frame so anything that is attached to the body will no longer match up to the frame. That includes the radiator and shroud. It also includes your Tcase linkage and if you've been reading this forum a lot of issues are with the linkage. Shocks mount to the frame and to the body, they will need replacing as well as bump stop extensions Another area you need to research is track bars. You will need to relocate your bracket for OEM or I recommend you add an adjustable one to maintain your original mounting point. The same is with the rear track bar too. Don't just go the least expensive route when you lift. Leave it stock till you can do it right or you will be chasing demons for a long time.

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Old 02-09-2011, 09:54 AM   #3
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i appreciate the advice, it seems like a good idea to just keep saving and then get whats needed and do it right the first time. if you dont mind saying, what kind of lift do you have and how much did you pay for it?
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I have the 4 inch rough country suspension lift, 1 inch body lift, raised engine mounts, adjustable track bars, bump stop extensions and had it all professionally installed and have had 0 problems. Good luck in your search.
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I have the 4 inch rough country suspension lift, 1 inch body lift, raised engine mounts, adjustable track bars, bump stop extensions and had it all professionally installed and have had 0 problems. Good luck in your search.
How much money did you pay for all together? I love to do things myself and give it a shot but reading as well about lift kits there is so many other things you must do just can't buy a kit and call it a day. Really want my car lifted as well just so much stuff to do haha
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Honestly, I loved my RC lift at first on my YJ, but I'm so dissatisfied with it now. The springs sagged and the shocks suck. It was a beginners mistake. Ive seen a lot o bad things with the tj lift too. Spend the extra money on a quality lift. You'll be happier in the end.
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I put mine on 10 years ago. A Teraflex long arm, five years ago I put on RE 4.5" springs. I have RE front and rear adj track bars a SYE and Tom Woods DS. I run 4.56 gears with lockers front and rear pushing 33" BFG A/T tires. I could go bigger but the 33's fit my needs perfectly. There was no forum to get advice on 12 years ago when I got my 99 so this information source is wonderful. I had a drop pitman arm on all these years but after reading in this forum that the OEM was better...I swapped my old one back and it indeed made a noted improvement. I learned how to work on my own Jeep because I kept having to redo "professional" work that was a joke. Also the mechanic was never on the trail with me when hus work was tested Found it better, cheaper, and enjoyable to do it all myself. I won't tackle ring and pinion but just about everything else. I enjoy it and much more prepared to fix on trails. Best addition to your jeep is good tools and experience.
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How much money did you pay for all together? I love to do things myself and give it a shot but reading as well about lift kits there is so many other things you must do just can't buy a kit and call it a day. Really want my car lifted as well just so much stuff to do haha
Couldnt remember the total cost but it wasnt cheap, however, cheaper than lots of other kits out there.

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Honestly, I loved my RC lift at first on my YJ, but I'm so dissatisfied with it now. The springs sagged and the shocks suck. It was a beginners mistake. Ive seen a lot o bad things with the tj lift too. Spend the extra money on a quality lift. You'll be happier in the end.
I also agree, my coils SAG. Very badly too. I want some different, heavier duty, coils.

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I put mine on 10 years ago. A Teraflex long arm, five years ago I put on RE 4.5" springs. I have RE front and rear adj track bars a SYE and Tom Woods DS. I run 4.56 gears with lockers front and rear pushing 33" BFG A/T tires. I could go bigger but the 33's fit my needs perfectly. There was no forum to get advice on 12 years ago when I got my 99 so this information source is wonderful. I had a drop pitman arm on all these years but after reading in this forum that the OEM was better...I swapped my old one back and it indeed made a noted improvement. I learned how to work on my own Jeep because I kept having to redo "professional" work that was a joke. Also the mechanic was never on the trail with me when hus work was tested Found it better, cheaper, and enjoyable to do it all myself. I won't tackle ring and pinion but just about everything else. I enjoy it and much more prepared to fix on trails. Best addition to your jeep is good tools and experience.
And again, totally agree. If you can do it yourself and have the means and tools to do it right, def get that experience. On the flipside, if you are like how I was a few years back and had more money than sence or just not enough tools and know how, if you have a reputable mechanic with experience with lifts and jeeps then go for it. Of course like texas pointed out, you wont have that learning experience or that intimant connection you have from doing your own work.

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