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Old 05-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #1
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Thinking about doing a TJ project

Ok...to get an idea of where I am at...start here:

What to do...want another project

Now, after looking for the past few hours I think if I can get up the nerve to sell my supra, I may look at buying a cheap TJ to work on. Hopefully Green.

What should I look for in a TJ? Start me out so I can start looking while I am working up the courage to sell my baby.

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Also what are the green colors called in the TJ production line. ??

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We need to know how big you plan on going (tire size) and what exactly you plan on doing with it

(no use starting with a rubicon if you are going to throw rock jock 60's an atlas tcase, and an ls under the hood... since you'll replace all the stuff that makes it a rubicon ....just a waste of money)


I would try to get one with a dana 44 rear axle they can be found in rocky mountain editions as well as various other special editions. (give you enough strength to hold off on a rear axle swap for a while)

a rubicon could also be a good a good choice albeit they often run a little high in price ... they come with dana 44's front and back with locking differentials, also a possible 6spd manual transmission and an np241 transfercase with a lower crawl ratio. a rubicon is a very good starting platform if you plan to stay around 35" tires ... you could wheel for a long time with just initial purchase price, a little bit of armor, a lift and tires

The only reason I say to look for a d44 equipped tj is because it will allow you to run up to 35" tires without much fear of snapping axle shafts.

the dana 35 is a turd when stock and many people will agree that it is not worth putting money into

if you plan on heavy wheeling with tires larger than 35's than I would say just get the cheapest tj you can find because a lot of components are going to be tossed anyways (axles, drive shafts, possibly tcase tranny and engine



I would also recommend going with a 4.0 ... the 2.5L leave a little to be desired especially on highway driving (possibly unbearable coming from a supra ;P )


it also helps to post pics and details of a jeep on this site before you buy it .. we can tell you what it should have and what to look out for with certain model years.
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Thanks. I got to reading it and sounded like 4.0 was def a decision maker and the 44 rear. What years or models did the 44 come in? What are the downsides to going with a manual over auto for trail riding? Prob won't do too much starting out but want to find the green color. Most I see are on Sahara of the TJ. This would just be used as a project side vehicle to play with and drive when I feel like it. Basically to replace my built supra that I built and just sits in the garage.
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Thanks. I got to reading it and sounded like 4.0 was def a decision maker and the 44 rear. What years or models did the 44 come in? What are the downsides to going with a manual over auto for trail riding? Prob won't do too much starting out but want to find the green color. Most I see are on Sahara of the TJ. This would just be used as a project side vehicle to play with and drive when I feel like it. Basically to replace my built supra that I built and just sits in the garage.
The dana 44 was an option for all TJ's exempt the SE which had the 2.5/2.4 i4, it was also standard in the Rubicon. As far as manual vs auto goes, there have been wars raged over the topic, but I guess the popular trend is the auto has an advantage on the rocks while the manual is sufficient for everything else. The two green TJ colors I know of are forest green and Shale green metallic which is what my 02 sahara is.
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Word of advice, don't get caught up on the color or you're going to be looking for quite a while. I searched high and low for a Chili Pepper Red (just because it was an uncommon color and was only offered for a short time. Also because I have a Giant stuffed Chili Pepper with sunglasses in my room) TJ w/ Auto Transmission and D44 rear axle. Not ONCE did the color yellow pop in my head until I saw it in a craigslist ad. Had everything I wanted so I bought it. Now the color has REALLY grown on me. My back-up colors were white, black or gun metal gray/silver (whatever the actual name is called).

As far as the auto vs. Stick, that's a long debate but personally I prefer not to pop the clutch or do something stupid while at an extreme angle. If this were a sports car, I would have a stick hands down but I just prefer an auto (like I said PREFER, never said one was better than the other). As for, "Stick gets better gas mileage", that is somewhat true but in the Jeep world, you'll only see a couple MPG better (2-3 maybe a little more).

Like others have said before me, post up what your looking at and we'll pick it apart. We can save you from a wreck and help you find what you're looking for.
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As for, "Stick gets better gas mileage", that is somewhat true but in the Jeep world, you'll only see a couple MPG better (2-3 maybe a little more).
The use of lock-up torque convertors have made the difference between stick and auto minimal to where they get the same mpg.
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This my help answer some questions about trim packages:
Jeep Wrangler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If or when I sell my TJ (97 Sahara 4.0L) I will try my damnedest to find an "LJ" (Jeep TJ Unlimited). It has everything a Rubi has but with a little longer wheelbase and Dana 44's front and back. Not as rare as hens teeth but close.
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I prefer manual over auto 9/10 times ... there are 3 problems that you have with a manual transmission..

1st .... Ive only got 2 hands and sometimes I need to do other things with my hands while driving .. answer a phone call(I don't advise this), change a radio station, open a window, grab my wallet etc. I solve this problem by accomplishing all of these tasks while at stop lights or before I pull out of my parking spot or driveway which is much safer and leads to way less missed shifts lol

2nd .... I have 2 feet and 3 pedals... while rock crawling you will do a lot of switching between brake, gas, and clutch ... in order to accomplish the task of manipulating 3 pedals with two feet I installed a hand throttle which I feel greatly improves my offroad capability especially when climbing steep hills. My hand throttle also allows me to increase my idle speed while winching to keep my battery fully charged.

the 3rd problem with a manual transmission while offroad is the fact that you CANNOT switch gears while your clutch is submerged or partially submerged( do to impurities building up in between your clutch and flywheel) so in order to cross a stream you must decide which gear you want to be in and stay in that gear.

i will say that an automatic is easier to drive both on and offroad, but i like the options my manual gives me (custom shift points, possibly better gas mileage, and better performance )
i think there is a lot more thinking involved when driving a manual especially offroad, i like to think i can handle it lol.



again like i myself and others have said , give us a link and specs to a jeep you are thinking about purchasing when you find one and we will pick it apart and tell you what it has to offer


you should also think about wether you want a hard top or soft top, full doors or half doors, these are expensive to switch between at a later date( hard tops average $900 used and and full doors average $500 a set) and lots of people don't think about the fact that although a softtop is easier to fold back for topless driving it is also an expendable item ... 5 years and its about time to look into replacing it, and zippers and Velcro go downhill very fast, while a hardtop will last much longer, and as long as you hav a place to store it and either a hoist or a friend to help, they are easy to remove.

if i did it over again i would look for a hardtop with either full doors or get half doors with hard uppers
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i would worry much more about the type of doors and top it has than i would color, the color will grow on you i promise, i originally wanted either tan or green .... my tj is flame red lol
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You know what they say about opinions? So here is mine. I like the rubicons for the lockers and 44s. If you are going to use it for driving up and down the road and little off road I would go stick. If you plan on going off road often I would choose the auto. I guess its personal preference. Its hard to beat an auto on rocks or inclines, but like I said that is my opinion. Good luck. You have already made the right decision on getting a TJ
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After looking and researching some, Most around here seem to be 5 spd. There is a good choice between the 4cyl and the 4.0.

I found a few things that I think would be up my alley. A 5.7 swap I have seen in some videos. That seems sweet. Wonder how hard of a swap that is? I am researching.
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if your gonna do an engine swap i would recommend getting the 4cyl just to save some $
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Im not sure exactly if I would do an engine swap or not. May...but I have also seen mentioned of building the 4.0L to a stroker or something?
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I have put my 94 Supra up for sale ...no telling when it will sell, but in the mean time I can continue to read up and start my search for the replacement project.
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I have put my 94 Supra up for sale ...no telling when it will sell, but in the mean time I can continue to read up and start my search for the replacement project.
Have a link? I'm not in any position to buy, but Im just curious what it looks like.
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Have a link? I'm not in any position to buy, but Im just curious what it looks like.

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Weird, won't allow me to take a look.

I've been playing around with doing an engine swap in the future (really far in the future). After watching this video from EVO, I'll probably just rebuild my 4.0 and stroke it to 4.9.


Need to start looking into what all needs to be done because I have no clue what all goes into stroking an engine.
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Oh sorry,

I forgot you probably got to be a member on the forum to see the for sale threads.

Here is a pic from the other day....

I could maybe keep the supra if I wanted and just work on keep playing with my tacoma...(also in the pic)...

but getting rid of something I dont drive hardly and getting a new project I dont care to tear up sounds fun...
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found this one local...I emailed the person...They didnt put a phone number so I am hoping they respond....asking 3500$ with 136k, looks good from the pic I can see...and its I6 4.0 and auto...
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found this one local...I emailed the person...They didnt put a phone number so I am hoping they respond....asking 3500$ with 136k, looks good from the pic I can see...and its I6 4.0 and auto...
Hate to break it to ya but that's probably a scam. Ones with that trim package are going for $8,500+ here.
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Hate to break it to ya but that's probably a scam. Ones with that trim package are going for $8,500+ here.
what kind of scam? not much they can do from that end is there? besides get your email address.
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The scam is they say they in the military, college, etc. and the the Jeep is located in another state. They get you a shipping price and ask you to send funds. Since its such a great deal people fall for it and wire off the funds.

Of course you will say that you wouldn't buy a car before test driving it but many others have.
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The scam is they say they in the military, college, etc. and the the Jeep is located in another state. They get you a shipping price and ask you to send funds. Since its such a great deal people fall for it and wire off the funds.

Of course you will say that you wouldn't buy a car before test driving it but many others have.

yeah, i would not then.

The only thing about this one is they have a local number...but obviously suck at typing because one number is left off in the ad.
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Weird, won't allow me to take a look.

I've been playing around with doing an engine swap in the future (really far in the future). After watching this video from EVO, I'll probably just rebuild my 4.0 and stroke it to 4.9.


Need to start looking into what all needs to be done because I have no clue what all goes into stroking an engine.

Here ya go man...

maybe this you can see...

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found this one local...I emailed the person...They didnt put a phone number so I am hoping they respond....asking 3500$ with 136k, looks good from the pic I can see...and its I6 4.0 and auto...
Yeah, I would say scam, hot, bad frame damage or flooded. If it's out of your state...don't go further. If they want to meet you at a store or shopping center stay away...it's hot. If they let you come to their house then either they are complete morons that don't know what they have or it's had extensive damage or flooded. Just tread lightly...I would get the VIN and run a Carfax. Quick and easy insurance.
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I would also recommend going with a 4.0 ... the 2.5L leave a little to be desired especially on highway driving
X2 takes minutes it feels like to get from 50 on the on ramp to 75 on the interstate

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