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Old 09-03-2013, 09:48 PM   #31
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Keep shopping.

The problem with tj/LJ is they are very hard to find in low mileage - unmodified condition. It took me over 9 months to find a descent one.

Btw. I also ditched an 05 F250 FX4 for my TJ.
I got to ask do you regret it?

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Old 09-03-2013, 10:23 PM   #32
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The answer to your question is NO!!!

Gas mileage is pretty much the same.. Parking spots, parking structures are wayyyyy better. And it actually fits in the garage at home. My f250 had a 5" lift and 37's.

I bought a cheapy fold up harbor freight trailer to pull the dirtbikes around and do Home Depot runs. 4'x8'. Barely smaller than the f250 truck bed.

The biggest draw back is I can't just throw the beach cruisers in the back and head down to the strand (sidewalk next to the beach). I have to drop the top and stand em up in the back of the jeep. I am probably going to buy a hitch mount bike hauler to solve this problem.

For the record.. The ford suct balls offroad. The jeep is wayyyy more fun. Plus it got rid of the "overcompensating" image of a big lifted truck.

My 2006 TJ SE 4.0L automatic w/ac had 32k miles when I bought it six months ago and I paid $13,500 for it. I really really really wanted a TJ Rubicon but every time I looked at one they were poorly modded and/or high mileage. People with clean TJ/LJ rubicons RARELY sell them. So I settled for the SE and budgeted $5000 for wheel/tire/axle upgrades instead of paying over $18k for someone's butchered rubicon with 100k+ miles on it.

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Old 09-03-2013, 11:47 PM   #33
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Yeah I understand that glad you like it and I hope to get one soon and I am noticing in my area people are asking 22 for Lj and another person is selling a rebuilt one for 18k and I am thinking am I messing up for not going for it but no one has said get the jeep everyone is saying my truck is worth more plus the rebuilt title is a bummer but I will find one I do appreciate every one opinion and help I feel very welcome and I am glad I came to you all for advise
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:41 AM   #34
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Yeah I understand that glad you like it and I hope to get one soon and I am noticing in my area people are asking 22 for Lj and another person is selling a rebuilt one for 18k and I am thinking am I messing up for not going for it but no one has said get the jeep everyone is saying my truck is worth more plus the rebuilt title is a bummer but I will find one I do appreciate every one opinion and help I feel very welcome and I am glad I came to you all for advise
Dude no way an LJ sells for over 20k.....thats very close to new price........here they sell from 9-13k now roughly.......road trip time.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:00 AM   #36
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Obnoxious prices, but everyone of those(especially the ones from Dealerships)I bet can be had for thousands less if you walk in with CASH IN HAND or know how to properly negotiate. I got my wife's 06' LJ for $10k out the door with 30kish in spotless condition. My 05' with 70k I got for $9800 out the door and that was 4 years ago.

Remember buy low, SELL HIGH. And LA is no different. Arm yourself with the right info and save yourself serious money.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:53 AM   #37
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All for a road trip but no way I am going to ca for a jeep lol I am willing to travel to find a deal but I was surprise to see the prices to they are high on the east coast but I thought they was crazy to but jeeps must be hot on the buy list but I was making sure I wasn't messing up lol
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And LA is no different.

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Old 09-04-2013, 12:29 PM   #39
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Around here LJ Rubicons easily fetch 20+ thousand. Hard to find too.


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Old 09-04-2013, 12:40 PM   #40
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Not at all. Any half wit knows to ask a high price when selling and expect a lower price to be negotiated. Rule of thumb is that any smart seller will set a selling price that is at least 20% higher than what he is willing to take for it. Many times its higher than that.

My first LJ back in 09' had a dealer asking price of $15,995. It took me nearly a full moth of on and off negotiating and pestering, but I took a hard stance, knew the LJ had been sitting on the lot for nearly 8 months and got it finally for under $10k out the door including all the paperwork and title. That's from a dealership. I know they still made quite a few grand off it too, and I estimated at the time that they were into it for around 8k. Some people know how to and are good at negotiating, others aren't.
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It took me 6 months to find mine
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:27 PM   #42
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This debate is getting crazy.

Btw.. We are comparing pricing for apples and oranges. All of the ads I referenced were rubicon tj/lj's and all of the ads posted by njo were non-rubicons.

Hopefully the op finds something that makes him happy.. Another option for the op is to keep the Harley diesel truck and pick up and old cj5 or cj7 for 4-5k.
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I learned a long time ago there is no point in debating with somebody who knows everything so I will stop. I was really only giving my input on two matters. First, trying to inform the op or anyone else reading this that it is possible that these jeeps really are high in value. Some seem very high, there is no doubt about that. Second, I find it hard to believe a dealer owned njo's Lj for 8000 as he claimed when he bought it. I personally sold a 98 Sahara with 133k on it at auction about 4 yrs ago with a bad Trans that went across the auction block on the back of a rollback for 5600. So yes jeeps do retain their value.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:33 PM   #44
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Around here LJ Rubicons easily fetch 20+ thousand. Hard to find too.


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LJ Rubicons around here start at around 18k and only go up and they don't last more than a couple of days to a week at that price. To the OP, take your time as you will find the right one for you. You will not regret buying one.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:57 PM   #45
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Thanks guys I appreciate first off I only want a rubicon it comes with all I need and more 05-06 is the year I want cause I like to find a 6 speed although if I found a 03 or 04 in good shape wouldn't bother me I don't like the Jk 4 doors that much some are ok but the LJ have grown on me and here there a good one to get and that there hard to find. I have looked in and around my area and there high and these are private owners mostly and not budging on price much and everywhere I have looked at rubicons they are asking retail for a repair title and I talk to my bank just to see what they think and they don't go by the title they just go by the jeep so they go by the value if the jeep by my insurance won't accept repair titles so if I did trade I would have to find a separate insurance company he send me a pic of the title today and trying to hunt down the guy that did the work on it but he says no noise and no leaks and drives straight he is a mechanic at a dealership so I hope he is being on the up and up I didn't think I was going to do it and still in decided but nobody has said go for it or it is a decent trade so that was weighting heavily on it but let's say the title was clear would it be a good trade? My truck is a 04 ford f240 diesel 4x4 crew cab Harley edition 146k stock motor

2005 jeep wrangler rubicon unlimited it has 73k miles, its a 4.0 6speed with axle lockers, this jeep is an amazing vehicle, it has a 4 inch skyjacker long travel lift, with 33/12.50 cooper tires, full size spare too. magnaflow exhaust system, rock guards, custom bumpers with recessed taillights and reverse lights. tinted fiberglass top and keenwood/rockford sound system, bushwacker fender flares, its also painted antifreeze green!! and has been undercoated,
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I shopped LJ rubicons in the NW for a few months, and I still look. Wranglers are over book rigs here, by quite a bit. I passed on a sweet LJ rubi with 20k miles for $22,000. I offered $18,000 on an LJ rubi with 50k miles and they wouldn't take it. They're pricing beat to hell and neglected ones at 14-18k here. I gave up the serious hunt, but if something comes up here that meets my criteria I'm on it. Unless I get tired of the drag and buy a Triumph 675r, which is starting to sound better all the time.
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I shopped LJ rubicons in the NW for a few months, and I still look. Wranglers are over book rigs here, by quite a bit. I passed on a sweet LJ rubi with 20k miles for $22,000. I offered $18,000 on an LJ rubi with 50k miles and they wouldn't take it. They're pricing beat to hell and neglected ones at 14-18k here. I gave up the serious hunt, but if something comes up here that meets my criteria I'm on it. Unless I get tired of the drag and buy a Triumph 675r, which is starting to sound better all the time.
Yeah I believe it is the same here a friend of mine just dump over 8k for a YJ and they said the bank told them that there in high demand and gave them the money for it I thought it was a little. High but each there own as long as there happy with it but I got a summer ride as well I never rode a triumph before that is cool but the weather here this year I can't ride my bike hardly any and if I got a jeep I may get to ride it a few time with the top and doors off before winter
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Here I the car fax a d a pic of the jeep I am checking out
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I would pass, wrecked and odometer not correct.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:37 PM   #50
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I would pass, wrecked and odometer not correct.
By the other reports it show odometer is right but the wreck is still there lol says hit earth embankment does anybody from Fairfield ca? It show ca does anybody know copart inc. I wonder if that is where it was fixed or sold
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Copart is an auction for salvage vehicles
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Copart is an auction for salvage vehicles
So you think it was fix or just sold though them so they work or just auction them as is
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Kdawgg..

Did you already buy the green jeep? It kinda seems like you are having buyers remorse
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They pretty much auction insurance totals and salvaged vehicles to wrecking yards or whoever is going to rebuild it. I would say pretty sure it was totaled and rebuilt, which explains the "custom paint" job
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Did you already buy the green jeep? It kinda seems like you are having buyers remorse
No I haven't bought it yet still determine it just checking it all the options out
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They pretty much auction insurance totals and salvaged vehicles to wrecking yards or whoever is going to rebuild it. I would say pretty sure it was totaled and rebuilt, which explains the "custom paint" job
Yeah I know it is rebuild I just was trying to track down who rebuild it so I can ask what all they had to do to it and or see pics of it wreck you think if I call them and give them the vin they would still have info or pics about it?
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Not at all.
I know you think very highly of yourself but you don't know everything. The market in New Jersey is not the same as the market in Southern California.
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Idk about info or pics, they go through 1000's of vehicles. Just my opinion , but I would find something else, that is a potentially very expensive nightmare waiting to happen. Not to mention way overpriced if salvaged and tmu branded title.
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Idk about info or pics, they go through 1000's of vehicles. Just my opinion , but I would find something else, that is a potentially very expensive nightmare waiting to happen. Not to mention way overpriced if salvaged and tmu branded title.

I understand what your saying and everybody I talk agrees with you. But looking at prices people are asking the same weather there salvage or not that is what got me confused actually he is about 4k cheaper on his price than 3 or 4 others I have looked up and to hear the banks say they don't care If it was salvage or not they just go by the book has be baffled cause you would think cheaper and not worth as much but at least for jeeps there not. I bought another report and tracks it some more. The guy that has already put 5k driving it everyday in 2 months and he hasn't had any issues and to see pics on how clean the engine is and it doesn't look like it has been off road and it is hard to find not impossible to find a rubicon that isn't rag out I have had a few other options one is a 03 rubicon auto soft top for 16,900 it does have a lift and winch and a 04 for 17 but it has been use and the pics show it has been tested and has a roll cage in it but there not salvage at least I don't think so. Both of them seem interested in trading but what do you all think of those prices for 03-04 rubicons
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Ok.. I have tried to be as nice as possible.. Let me be blunt.

If you cheap out and buy some rebuilt salvaged nightmare. You will most likely end up spending more money chasing problems than if you just cough up the extra dough and get a good one.

Pay me now or pay me later

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