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Old 09-05-2013, 12:23 AM   #61
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Ok.. I have tried to be as nice as possible.. Let me be blunt.

If you cheap out and buy some rebuilt salvaged nightmare. You will most likely end up spending more money chasing problems than if you just cough up the extra dough and get a good one.

Pay me now or pay me later
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:48 AM   #62
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Ok that's fine and blunt is perfectly fine with me and i get what you are saying. So all salvage vehicles are junk basically. I never bought one so I have no clue but there are a lot of people buys them an fixes them up and sells them or keeps them I know there not perfect but a new one isn't either and I guess you can get the lemon one as well I just asking opinions and waving the pro and cons and I have no problem waiting for the right one and I am sure the next one I find I will ask again I do appreciate the help and I will take yours all advise and pass on it

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Old 09-05-2013, 05:56 AM   #63
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When I was looking, I found a screaming deal on a 06 Rubicon w/ a salvage title. But , my insurance company would only insure a vehicle w/ salvage title for liability only. I wasn't interested in having a 10K vehicle w/ only liability insurance.

I waited patiently, and finally found an unmodified 05 Rubicon LJ w/ 63K miles for $16K. Yes, in Kentucky that is below market value.
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:38 AM   #64
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When I was looking, I found a screaming deal on a 06 Rubicon w/ a salvage title. But , my insurance company would only insure a vehicle w/ salvage title for liability only. I wasn't interested in having a 10K vehicle w/ only liability insurance.

I waited patiently, and finally found an unmodified 05 Rubicon LJ w/ 63K miles for $16K. Yes, in Kentucky that is below market value.
Yeah that's good and my insurance wouldn't do it at all and the other company's are to high so I ain't going to fool with just another thing on the con side
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:13 PM   #65
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So all salvage vehicles are junk basically
To expand on that piece, unless you can get them for nothing haha! I almost settled a few times on a jeep, that reason you are asking is you know deep down it doesn't sit right which is what i felt. I held off and ended up wit a 06 Rubi with 50k miles on it stock and had barely seen dirt for 14,5k. It will come to you, just keep your eyes peeled!
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To expand on that piece, unless you can get them for nothing haha! I almost settled a few times on a jeep, that reason you are asking is you know deep down it doesn't sit right which is what i felt. I held off and ended up wit a 06 Rubi with 50k miles on it stock and had barely seen dirt for 14,5k. It will come to you, just keep your eyes peeled!
And to expand on that......do you haggling online or on the phone.....lowball.......be persistant. If dealing with a dealership start that process at beginning of the month and dont plan on a deal being consumated till the end of the month. Haggle on multiple fronts to......show the people your dealing with your serious about a sale......but keep the advantage throughout entire process. You will NOT get the best price trying to get it all done in a day or 2.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:29 PM   #67
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Ok I am going sat to look at a 06 LJ rubicon I will test drive and check it out good it is the orange color which I am happy to find and 6speed has a 6 in fabtech suspenion on 36in tires and a winch with air compressor attach and poison spider rocker guards locker mod and cb arb diff covers terra flex steering stabilizers seems to be build right and looks good doesn't appear to be dents or anything I can't tell until I check it out has 86k I am pretty excited to check it out an I will test it out good and look under it well think it would be a fun jeep
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Ok I am going sat to look at a 06 LJ rubicon I will test drive and check it out good it is the orange color which I am happy to find and 6speed has a 6 in fabtech suspenion on 36in tires and a winch with air compressor attach and poison spider rocker guards locker mod and cb arb diff covers terra flex steering stabilizers seems to be build right and looks good doesn't appear to be dents or anything I can't tell until I check it out has 86k I am pretty excited to check it out an I will test it out good and look under it well think it would be a fun jeep
6" lift? Steering stabilizers(plural)?.........its Fabtech.........PASS on it.
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Check out fabtech suspensions before you buy it. There are a ton of things that need to upgraded before running 36's and a 6" lift.
Steering upgraded? Brakes upgraded? Axle shafts? Gears? Trussed?
Just because its big and looks cool doesn't mean it's set up correctly.
I agree with the above post. Avoid fabtech.
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Check out fabtech suspensions before you buy it. There are a ton of things that need to upgraded before running 36's and a 6.5" lift.
Steering upgraded? Brakes upgraded? Axle shafts? Gears? Trussed?
Just because its big and looks cool doesn't mean it's set up correctly.
Yeah......including the ENTIRE "Fabtech" LA kit. Garage/street queen garbage.
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To the OP: Look for a clean STOCK LJ to purchase. Always the best way to go. 9 out of 10 "modded" jeeps are loaded with junk parts and poor planning integration. Go stock bro, build it up yourself after you have improved your knowledge base and have months of diligent research in place.
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I would think a 5k suspension kit would be a good one you all hate on all suspension I mention skyjacker before and you say trash and now fabtech these company have been in business a long time if they sucked wouldn't they be gone by now? What suspension do you all have to run to be a "good" company or kit? I will check it out and test drive it but a guy that knows it and builds jeep said it looks to be build good and the kit looked to be done right not a shade tree job I don't know until I check it out
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I do appreciate the input but I can't win for losing every jeep I find it there is something wrong with it the first one was salvage I agree with you all on that one the other one was 10 mins from home and it cost to much (which I haven't heard from them back so I don't guess the numbers match up which that's fine) and this one has everything I don't have to do noting but put a CD player to hook my iPod in it has a 6 disc CD player in it. In theory I want a stock LJ with a hard top and soft top and low miles but I can't find any in my area and the ones that are there high I am not saying I will buy this one either but I am going to check it out and maybe work out a deal if not the search continues
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Don't forget to save some money for new gears. Fabtech is over priced for what you get. Check it out and see if you like it. You can always change out joints and go lower springs.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:03 PM   #75
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Don't forget to save some money for new gears. Fabtech is over priced for what you get. Check it out and see if you like it. You can always change out joints and go lower springs.
Well I wouldn't pay 5 or 6 k for any lift kit I don't care how good it is If I was going to build my own 500 buck rough country is what it would get what wheelin I do stock could handle it
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:34 PM   #76
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I would think a 5k suspension kit would be a good one you all hate on all suspension I mention skyjacker before and you say trash and now fabtech these company have been in business a long time if they sucked wouldn't they be gone by now? What suspension do you all have to run to be a "good" company or kit? I will check it out and test drive it but a guy that knows it and builds jeep said it looks to be build good and the kit looked to be done right not a shade tree job I don't know until I check it out
You think the MSRP makes a kit good? That's poor thinking. Go to Pirate4x4, JF, or any other forum that has knowledgeable individuals who can tell you why MOST $$$ kits are substandard. Fabtech does not have a great reputation when it comes to Jeep lifts. Devil is in the details.

Fabtech doesn't even specialize in Jeeps. The geometry is poor. The individual parts used are nothing to write home about. Do a search on them, I can garentee you that for every recommendation you find, you will find a handful of negative reviews as well. If you just want a jacked up street queen though, then it will fit the bill nicely. If you plan on doing some regular moderate and hard wheeling.......you will find out fast how good it really is.

What would I or anyone else gain by telling you if an item is poor or not? Surely no financial gain.

Your best bet is looking for a stock Wrangler......and then doing RESEARCH, reading..........gaining knowledge for YOUR OWN BENEFIT and then modifying it specifically to fit YOUR OWN NEEDS.

Curious, who is this "Guy" who "knows it" and builds jeeps? Does he have a sterling reputation? I know a lot of "guys" who build up Jeeps and other vehicles too..........most are hacks.

I'll give you a good list of mfg's that do have a sterling rep. Currie, Metal Cloak, ARB/OME, Rokmen, Clayton, Poly Performance, Genright. Not a huge list.
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I do appreciate the input but I can't win for losing every jeep I find it there is something wrong with it the first one was salvage I agree with you all on that one the other one was 10 mins from home and it cost to much (which I haven't heard from them back so I don't guess the numbers match up which that's fine) and this one has everything I don't have to do noting but put a CD player to hook my iPod in it has a 6 disc CD player in it. In theory I want a stock LJ with a hard top and soft top and low miles but I can't find any in my area and the ones that are there high I am not saying I will buy this one either but I am going to check it out and maybe work out a deal if not the search continues
Dude, you have only been looking for a few weeks..........show some patience? Your trigger happy on a purchase. Never is a good thing. Step back, have a cold one..........relax. Let it come to YOU.
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Dude, you have only been looking for a few weeks..........show some patience? Your trigger happy on a purchase. Never is a good thing. Step back, have a cold one..........relax. Let it come to YOU.
Take a page out of the "Law of Attraction." Write a list of what you want. Believe it is yours through visualization. Feel how nice it is to have found and own your perfect LJ or perfect project LJ starter Jeep. Then do as mentioned above. You will get there.

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