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Old 05-27-2010, 12:58 AM   #1
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Thinking about regearing my TJ

Okay so I went to 4wheelparts today and I got a quote to have the front/rear regeared to 4:10 and I have 31" tires and will not go any bigger. I was quoted $1650 parts and labor. With my current setup it bogs down shifting to 3rd like I see people changing lanes on me Anyways, I just want to clarify that when I do get the 4:10 the acceleration will be noticeable? Like I can actually keep up with traffic? I want to ask these questions before I take my jeep next week. Thanks in advance for all the input.

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What are you geared at currently?

My 4.0L 5 spd is running 31's w/ 3.73's and I have no issues whatsoever with acceleration...

Post your engine size and gearing here and someone can chime in and let you know what gearing you want to switch to for 31" tires... whatever gearing they give you will return you to about the stock powerband and yes, your acceleration will return.

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I have 4cyl so 3:07 I believe. I have never driven a stock TJ so I can't really compare.
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With 4 angry squirrels, 31's and 3.07 gearing...I could see the possibility of mopeds riding circles around you...lol

You would definitely see a change in acceleration changing your gearing to 4.10's...I'd keep checking this thread and see what's recommended by the more knowledgeable folks just in case 4.10's aren't the best choice for you.
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With 4 angry squirrels, 31's and 3.07 gearing...I could see the possibility of mopeds riding circles around you...lol

You would definitely see a change in acceleration changing your gearing to 4.10's...I'd keep checking this thread and see what's recommended by the more knowledgeable folks just in case 4.10's aren't the best choice for you.
Bwahaha mopeds riding circles around my TJ that is funny and it is the truth ... sometimes I yell out come on jeep GO GO GO!
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I thought the 4cyl came geared at 4.10
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I thought the 4cyl came geared at 4.10
I highly doubt it ... I also looked at the gear ratio chart and there is no way my jeep is geared at 4:10. My jeep is just sslllloowwww
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I would check the tag on the rear diff and make sure it is not geared at 4.10 the searches I have done say it would have come geared at 4.10. You may have another issue
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I would check the tag on the rear diff and make sure it is not geared at 4.10 the searches I have done say it would have come geared at 4.10. You may have another issue
The tech from 4wheelparts confirmed it is the 3.07 he looked at it.
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Well alrighty then just didn't want you to spend 1600 on something you did not need. I guess you do need to rear gear or trade for a 6cyl.
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I have not heard of a 4 banger coming with those gears you say. They come with 4.10 and the 6 cylinder comes with the 3.73, unless ordered differently. You can go to the dealer with your VIN and they can tell you how it came from the factory also.
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I am running 307 and 31s. There is really no difference than stock really. If you are going to regear make sure you do lockers or limited slip it cost the same to install just more in parts. Only want to do it once.
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what transmission do you have ? auto or stick

if you have a stick 4.56 would be ideal with your 4cyl and tire size choice
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what transmission do you have ? Auto or stick

if you have a stick 4.56 would be ideal with your 4cyl and tire size choice
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As stated, you should confirm that a gear job would in fact provide any help before dropping the money on it.

And 16 hundred (plus!) dollars at 4WP is excessive. Should be able to find a place to do it for at least a couple hundred less and would have good recommendations locally.
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4.10s come stock on 4cyl. your jeep must have had the axle changed out or something.
and 4.10s on a 4banger where meant for 29 inch tires, so go with 4.56.

btw 4wheelparts are some good people but i know a guy down here near gainsville that does gears installs for much cheaper. he has donw alot of them on jeeps. just send me a pm if you want more info.
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For $1600 I would be thinking real hard about sell the 4cly and getting a 6cly.
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For $1600 I would be thinking real hard about sell the 4cly and getting a 6cly.
How much would the engine swap be?
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As stated, you should confirm that a gear job would in fact provide any help before dropping the money on it.

And 16 hundred (plus!) dollars at 4WP is excessive. Should be able to find a place to do it for at least a couple hundred less and would have good recommendations locally.
Alright found a shop asking $1350 Hedgehog Motorsports
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from 3.07 to 4.10.... yes you really will notice the diffrence
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How much would the engine swap be?
Whoops, I meant to say sell your whole jeep and buy one with a 6, as spending 1600 for a gear swap and still have a 4cly is too much money. Hell for $500-$700 bucks you could go and get used axle's with 4.11's at a yard and then have money left over for other stuff.
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Whoops, I meant to say sell your whole jeep and buy one with a 6, as spending 1600 for a gear swap and still have a 4cly is too much money. Hell for $500-$700 bucks you could go and get used axle's with 4.11's at a yard and then have money left over for other stuff.
I just bought the jeep not even 2 weeks ago!
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Have you actually crawled under there and looked at the tag to see what gearing it has? If not, you need to do that first. It does seem odd that you'd have 3:07's in a 4 banger....
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Alright found a shop asking $1350 Hedgehog Motorsports
That is a bit more in line price wise. If the shop has a good reputation, it may be the place to go.

I have driven but not owned 4 cyl jeeps. They are just fine. Real issue is that they are kind of underpowered for a lot of freeway work and you won't be getting tickets for speeding or squawking your tires.

31" tires, a 4 cyl and 3.07 gears does equal suck. 4.11's will be much better. Just know that much better won't be speed racer type better.

So, keep the jeep unless you are really unhappy with it or really need the 6 banger. Your call.
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Sorry you guys. I stand corrected. I currently have 4.10 and changing it to 4.56 for $1334 including taxes saved me 100 bucks. Thanks to all!
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Have you actually crawled under there and looked at the tag to see what gearing it has? If not, you need to do that first. It does seem odd that you'd have 3:07's in a 4 banger....
I just called the dealership and have them run my vin.
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thats pretty expensive! i was just quoted at 90$ an hour to swap a rear axle and regear the front!

How long of a job is this? what will i end up spending at 90 an hour??
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Sorry you guys. I stand corrected. I currently have 4.10 and changing it to 4.56 for $1334 including taxes saved me 100 bucks. Thanks to all!
Anybody else find it odd that a tech at 4wp can't read a tag?

You need to get under there and look at it. It's not hard, take a flashlight and rag to wipe it off. The last 3 digits are your gearing. Seems odd that the tech said one thing and vin is different. Someone may have swapped axles in it previously.
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If the tag isn't there, jack up the Jeep. Then rotate the rear tire one full turn while counting how many times the pinion yoke turns (drive shaft). That will give you a close idea as to what the gearing is.
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What are you geared at currently?

My 4.0L 5 spd is running 31's w/ 3.73's and I have no issues whatsoever with acceleration...

Post your engine size and gearing here and someone can chime in and let you know what gearing you want to switch to for 31" tires... whatever gearing they give you will return you to about the stock powerband and yes, your acceleration will return.
With your gearing what rpm do you turn at 65mph ? Do you have a auto or 5 speed ?

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