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Old 02-06-2014, 11:55 AM   #1
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Thinking of buying a wrangler

Im new to jeeps and im thinking of buying a jeep wrangler sport, 4.0L 5 speed. any thoughts or advice would be very helpful. ive heard they are nightmares when it comes to maintenance, is that true?

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Define maintenance...

Things will wear and will require new parts, but it all depends on how you treat you jeep. You drive it to hell, take if in the mud, and run though pot holes like a rhythm section, things will break faster.

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Old 02-06-2014, 01:03 PM   #3
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My uncle had one in the 90s and he said everything that could go wrong with it did and Ive also heard theyre solid vehicles. im gonna get it as a dialy driver and take it to the deer lease every now and then but im not going to be out pushing its limits... i migh tdo that once its paid off or maybe once or twice after it rains but it all depends
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:06 PM   #4
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For the most part, they're very reliable vehicles. What year were you looking at? You mentioned something about waiting until it was paid off so I'm assuming you're looking at a JK, (2007+) which will be more advanced and probably more reliable than older models. That being said, the older models are extremely simple and utilitarian, which make them very easy to work on.
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But looking at your first comment, it now looks like you're looking at a TJ (1996-2006). Either way, they're reliable vehicles.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:10 PM   #6
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They're noisy
They're terrible on gas (expect 15mpg)
They ride like hell
You're going to have a RMS oil leak
Header will probably crack
And things are going to rattle

That being said...i love this vehicle and i'll never get rid of it. I knew all of this going into my purchase and dont regret it at all.

Maintenance is cake on these vehicles...i had my radiator start to leak but within an hour i replaced it and had cleaned up. Stuff is cheap when you do need to fix it (most stuff, that is) and most things are very easy to get to.

Good luck
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:15 PM   #7
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It is a TJ, its an 04.
and like jherrington said, things go wrong, its a machine. but if its easy to work on and cheap to do so. im all in.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:42 PM   #8
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It is a TJ, its an 04. and like jherrington said, things go wrong, its a machine. but if its easy to work on and cheap to do so. im all in.
Yeah. They super easy to work on.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:45 PM   #9
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So easy to work on because there's no real sound deadening or electrical stuff.
Everything is open and easy to get to. I've had no problems working on it
Parts are relatively cheap because so many people make them and so many people bought them.
You won't regret buying it, even with the rough ride, noisy cabin, and poor fuel mileage
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:50 PM   #10
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I bought my first Jeep about a month ago. 2003 Sport, manual 5 speed. I don't know much about the inside of cars but I decided that when I bought it I would learn as I go. I'm an intelligent guy and my dad knows a ton about cars so I can always lean on him for help. It had a bad radiator when I bought it so the seller offered to knock two hundred bucks off the price AND buy the radiator if I agreed to put it in. I did. It took me all of about an hour and a half to get the whole process done, and to be honest it was pretty easy. I figured it out as I went along. Youtube/google were my friends during that experience. I anticipate doing a large majority of the maintenance on it myself.

I am head over heels in love with my Jeep. Any excuse I get to drive places I always do. I run errands just so I can go cruising in the Jeep. Its my daily driver and I have taken it in the snow a few times. Once the weather gets nicer I'll take it mudding on our property. Its a great all around vehicle for my outdoor oriented lifestyle (hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, etc).

Short answer- Yes. Yes you should buy a Jeep, as long as you know what you're getting into. The pros completely outweigh the cons.

PS: I went from a pick up truck to the Jeep and the one thing that I'm still getting used to is how much MORE room I have in the cab, but LESS room I have overall. I love having more cab room, but something as simple as getting my fishing rod to fit in the Jeep was not an issue I had with the truck, but I manage. Even hockey sticks/lacrosse sticks can be a challenge.

Also, I always laugh when people make the "poor gas mileage" comment. My truck got about 10 mpg. I upgraded in fuel mileage when I went to the Jeep, lol.
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:52 PM   #11
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As a daily driver, a TJ is going to require you to tolerate some things many folks just would not put up with every single day, like poor fuel economy, noise, rough ride, lackluster acceleration, small cargo area, stuff like that. But a TJ is a blast to drive, it is small and simple and sturdy and plows through crap that stops most other vehicles. So, you give up some things and benefit from others.

I would suggest that for a daily driver you get a hard top with full doors, for better security and climate protection. Good luck!
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Old 02-06-2014, 04:44 PM   #12
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Ok... Next question... Manual vs automatic?
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I prefer a manual for everything except wheeling...

so, if you're gonna hardcore wheel it then go with an automatic (better for crawling) but if not then go manual.
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I'm 19, my 97 TJ is my first vehicle. I knew nothing about cars before I got it. And I have had to do some work on mine. I must say... It's extremely easy to work on. Mine is manual, and that transmission has a great track record. However I have heard good things about the automatic. Unless anyone else knows more, I would have to say it's more of a preference decision. MPGs do stink, but on a hot summer day, the no doors, no top ride is unbeatable. Buy a wrangler, make sure you get the 4.0 if you get one from before 2007, and watch out for frame rust and rot.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:23 PM   #15
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I'm not going to do any crawling, just a daily driver and some light trails and light mudding. I haven't driven a manual but maybe once in my life so it'll take some getting used to.
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I haven't driven a manual but maybe once in my life so it'll take some getting used to.
The best way to learn is to get one! I'd never have anything but a manual, I just love feeling completley in control of the vehicle. But like other people have said, I hear the auto is good too. Just takes the fun out of it for me.
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The best way to learn is to get one! I'd never have anything but a manual, I just love feeling completley in control of the vehicle. But like other people have said, I hear the auto is good too. Just takes the fun out of it for me.

That's how I feel, I'm afraid it'll take the feel out of it
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Of all the vehicles I have owned, and I have owned a lot, the Wrangler is the one vehicle that just has to have a manual transmission. IMO the 4.0L + 5-speed manual in a Wrangler just can't be beat for the fun-to-drive factor.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:28 AM   #20
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i havent heard a single person say automatic yet
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:35 AM   #21
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Automatic! I have a 987 with a 6MT. I can't imagine it with an automatic, even a PDK. The manual in a jeep does nothing for me. I don't think you'll go wrong with either, so drive both and decide which you prefer.
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i havent heard a single person say automatic yet
If you want to have a max speed of 60, get an auto. I don't think they came with lockup converters so they never directly sent the power from the engine to the trans. There was always a significant loss of power, where if you've got a clutch, once it stops slipping, you're getting all of that power directed to your transmission.
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I have an automatic and I like it. I had a cj7 with a stick I liked it to !!!!!
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If you want to have a max speed of 60, get an auto. I don't think they came with lockup converters so they never directly sent the power from the engine to the trans. There was always a significant loss of power, where if you've got a clutch, once it stops slipping, you're getting all of that power directed to your transmission.
thats exactly what i needed to hear
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If you want to have a max speed of 60, get an auto. I don't think they came with lockup converters so they never directly sent the power from the engine to the trans.
Eh? 32RH has a lockup torque converter. I've had my TJ for a week, but it does 75-80 just fine.
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Also as far as highway goes the 5 speed gets better mileage! He'll even at like 55 rpms are way lower because u can make then lower and the 5 speed is a little peppier. Ask me how I know I've had both! Also 4 low on a 5 speed is mega mega low gearing!
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I'd recommend manual. Its not hard to learn and once you've got that down it makes driving so much more fun. My last vehicle was an automatic but I learned to drive stick a long time ago. For other cars automatic is nice, but I much prefer the manual trans in the Jeep.
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In my search I looked for the best jeep for the money. Mine happens to be an auto. I will say manual sucks in traffic my company F 150 is a 5 speed and it gets old at times but also fun to drive a manual. So if your commute involves traffic you my lean towards auto.
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If you want to have a max speed of 60, get an auto.

Huh? I've had mine up to a bit over 90 and routinely over 70. So not sure where that came from.

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