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Old 03-27-2011, 07:36 PM   #1
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Ticking noise at startup

My Jeep has this ticking noise at cold startup only. It does it for about 5 to 10 seconds then stops. I never hear it any other time. I found this on youtube that sounds exactly like mine. Thanks for any help.

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Probably just the lifters or something until the oil pressure builds and coats everything good. Cold oil runs a lot slower that warm oil, thus the only when its cold thing.

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Old 03-27-2011, 07:50 PM   #3
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If so how can I fix it. It sounds bad.
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Mine does the same thing only it's intermittent and only does it after it's been sitting overnight. I know what you mean, it sounds awful but I doubt anything can be done about it if you have the right amount of oil in the engine.
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What oil filter are you running?
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For myself, I use Purolator, that's all my local auto store has besides Fram.
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K&N and Castrol Full Synthetic. I use this on both my jeeps. Additional note, I just went out and checked my oil level and it's a little low. Also, I looked underneath and there is a thin layer of oil on the oil pan starting at the drain plug going towards the rear of the jeep. I could even see a little drop on the tip of the drain plug bolt.
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Most likely your lifters making noise until they're pumped up.

The K&N should have a decent anti-drainback valve in it. It's basically the same as the M1 filter.

How many miles on it?

What weight oil?

The oil on the pan is most likely from the rear main seal.
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:46 PM   #9
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114K and 10W-30.
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Maybe you just got a filter with a bad anti-drainback valve. Has it just started to do it?

Should be fine with that oil and your mileage isn't really that high.
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i get the same noise!
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It started a few weeks ago on and off. Now it's just about everytime I start it. Sometimes it last one second with just a few clicks, and other times is last almost ten seconds. I changed the oil last at 110K.
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Your oil filter may have a leaky check valve that is allowing the oil to drain down out of the engine's top end which causes a "dry start" in the cam and tappet area. It couldn't hurt to change your oil filter to see if that helps.
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Hopefully not a silly question. Will I have to drain any of the oil to change the filter?
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I'd try an oil and filter change just to see if it's the filter.
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No you can just pull the filter off, you'll only lose what's in the filter.
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Yes, the top-end oil will drain out when you remove the filter.
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also check your exhaust manifold bolts. Mine was loose enough that it leaked (very loud click sound) for a few seconds till the manifold warmed up and expanded.
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Jerry's right, what I meant, is that you don't have to drain any of the oil out of the pan.

You'll lose what's in the filter and whatever's above the anti-drainback valve, assuming it hasn't leaked down into the pan already. Same amount that comes out when you unscrew the filter when changing the oil.
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I'm confused about the check valve. Is there a diagram of an oil filter that would explain that?
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I'll change filter asap.
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The ROF forum has some great pics of dissected oil filters:

Rubicon Owners Forum - View topic - Oil filters
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I hope is something simple. I just dropped $1200 on Trutracing the front, JKS disconnects and an adjustable front track bar. Then, two days later I hear this noise.
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Hope it's just the filter. I run either the M1, or the K&N, on both of mine and haven't had any drainback issues.
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The ROF forum has some great pics of dissected oil filters:

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Thanks for posting that link. I've always thought a filter was just that, I didn't know it held oil for the top end of the engine! I assume Purolator filters are probably junk as well, even though they weren't mentioned in that write up. Educated once again!
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:36 PM   #26
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He did cut open a PureOne, their premium filter.
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I have had engines doing this for YEARS. If the filter does not cure it, try using an additive (STP, etc.) to retain coatings when dry starting. It could also be lifters leaking down or becoming faulty, but that is a whole other situation.

If you cannot CURE it, you may have to live with it. It is NOT the end of the world....
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I've had 3 different jeep 4.0s for a combined 500k miles, and every single one of them had lifters chatter once they clock over 75k miles. My current 02 just started chattering on cold starts about 2 oil changes ago, a bit early (right at 75k). Never had a problem actually caused by the noise; just annoying till the oil gets warmed up. I've run Lucas, and other oil treatments, and even switched to synthetics, but the noise always comes back by the next winter and really doesn't seem to be a real issue. I will say full synthetic does seem to have the most noticeable effect on noise reduction, I just don't drive my current rig enough to make it worthwhile.

Not to start a flamefest, but to be honest the most effective thing I ever did was run ATF through it for a couple hundred miles, but CAUTION: it was a 93, and was a last-ditch effort. I know some old-time respected guys on here will torch me for saying that, all I can tell you is my own experience on an old, abused jeep that I brought back from the brink using ATF.
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Go pick up a bottle of Rislone, follow the directions on it (I think you replace one quart of oil with 1 quart of Rislone), and see if that helps...I've never done it, but my friend's dad runs a car dealership and he swears by it. My friend swears by Lucas oil additive to curing noisy lifters...but I tried that with no luck on mine.

Mine does is every now and then as well...sometimes it'll start up and you'll hear the lifters bang bang bang bang for about 3 seconds...and other times it'll just have a noticeable tick until the oil warms up after a few minutes. Cold days it can tick for 15 minutes or so at times.
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Thanks for posting that link. I've always thought a filter was just that, I didn't know it held oil for the top end of the engine! I assume Purolator filters are probably junk as well, even though they weren't mentioned in that write up. Educated once again!
Purolator's PureOne oil filter is actually a very good filter and is one of my two favored oil filters that I try to run when I can find them. The other being the AC-Delco Duraguard.

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