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Old 03-03-2014, 07:14 PM   #1
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Tire carrier question

I just got my 2" lift last week but won't be able to get my 33s till summer. My question is, am I gonna have to get a bigger tire carrier for those? It's stock right now with a 31x10.5 and I plan on going up to the pro comp Xtreme at2 33x12.5.

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Lots of people use the stock fire carrier, but it puts a lot of stress on the tailgate and it would definitely be better to get a new tire carrier
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Lots of people use the stock fire carrier, but it puts a lot of stress on the tailgate and it would definitely be better to get a new tire carrier
Any suggestions on tire carriers? I wasn't counting on that cost but what's a decent carrier? Nothing crappy but nothing overboard either
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Dirtworx is an excellent carrier/bumper, and very inexpensive. Robert at thedirtworx will certainly make to order a bumper / carrier that will hold up to anything you can put it through.

Also there is the "Barricade" I have no personal experiance with it, but for the price it might be worth checking out.
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I use Poison Spyder tire carrier very solid, no rattles and it hold up to a 40" tire!
There's a thread call "Show us your back??? It's an entire thread on the back of Jeeps so you'll see options, something may stand out...
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Original owner of my Jeep carried a 33x12.5 on the stock carrier for six years without any problems. I only carry the spare when headed off road but haven't had any issues in the 2 years I've owned it. Not saying it won't trash your tailgate but I haven't experienced it on mine.
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Dirtworx is an excellent carrier/bumper, and very inexpensive. Robert at thedirtworx will certainly make to order a bumper / carrier that will hold up to anything you can put it through. Also there is the "Barricade" I have no personal experiance with it, but for the price it might be worth checking out.
So going with a new tire carrier you have to go with a new rear bumper as well? How concerned should I be with putting a 33 on the stock carrier? I'm already not looking forward to the $1200 for just tires and I was planning on a rear bumper being one of the last things I did.
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Bestop makes a beefed up carrier (rated for 200 lb) that allows your tailgate to work exactly the same way and doesn't require a whole new bumper. $350 at Quadratec. It does require some drilling in your tailgate and right rear corner and unbolting the roll cage to put a reinforcing plate in.
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So going with a new tire carrier you have to go with a new rear bumper as well? How concerned should I be with putting a 33 on the stock carrier? I'm already not looking forward to the $1200 for just tires and I was planning on a rear bumper being one of the last things I did.
Not necessarily...for the my PS there's a bumper strip I'll call it that bolts to the frame then the carrier hooks to that...
Watch CL, I got mine brand new $300!
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You could always throw the tire in the back until you save up for a carrier…just a thought.
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I've been using one of these HyLine OffRoad 300200100 - HyLine OffRoad Oversized Spare Tire Adaptor Bracket for 97-06 JeepĀ® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec to carry a 33 on my tailgate for the past three years. It raises it about +/-3" higher than the stock carrier. Just make sure to have the right size tire bumps installed on the tailgate so the spare is tight against them.
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I use Poison Spyder tire carrier very solid, no rattles and it hold up to a 40" tire! There's a thread call "Show us your back??? It's an entire thread on the back of Jeeps so you'll see options, something may stand out...
Thanks for the suggestion! Nice looking rig you got there as well!

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Original owner of my Jeep carried a 33x12.5 on the stock carrier for six years without any problems. I only carry the spare when headed off road but haven't had any issues in the 2 years I've owned it. Not saying it won't trash your tailgate but I haven't experienced it on mine.
Makes me feel better knowing yours has held up good. I'd really prefer to hold off on the bumper and carrier till I get a few more things off the to do list
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OK I'm really i interested in this i am in about the same situation although I do want to replace my rear bumper and get a tire carrier but I would also feel better carrying my spare and I can't put the spare in the back as my son rides back there and he loves the jeep so I can't tell him no to riding in it. My question though is there a tire carrier that I can use with the stock bumper and move over to a new bumper when I choose a new bumper?
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Fill the spare with helium instead of air to lighten the load, that way, no added stress on tailgate.
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I've been using one of these HyLine OffRoad 300200100 - HyLine OffRoad Oversized Spare Tire Adaptor Bracket for 97-06 JeepĀ® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec to carry a 33 on my tailgate for the past three years. It raises it about +/-3" higher than the stock carrier. Just make sure to have the right size tire bumps installed on the tailgate so the spare is tight against them.
I really like that! If I find that I can't go 33 on the stock carrier that's probably what I'll go with. Thanks for the post!

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Fill the spare with helium instead of air to lighten the load, that way, no added stress on tailgate.
Any idea on the weight difference between just air and helium? And god forbid I ever have to use the spare, would it be safe to run it with helium?
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lol, I was totally kidding, please don't do that. In all honesty, i used my tailgate to hold a 33x12.50 for years on my 97 TJ and never noticed any problems.
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lol, I was totally kidding, please don't do that. In all honesty, i used my tailgate to hold a 33x12.50 for years on my 97 TJ and never noticed any problems.
Haha it sounded believable! I got access to a helium tank as well. It sounds like I should be fine with just going with the stock carrier until I'm ready for the new bumper and carrier
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lol, I was totally kidding, please don't do that. In all honesty, i used my tailgate to hold a 33x12.50 for years on my 97 TJ and never noticed any problems.
did it take any adjustments or additional items like a spacer or anything like that to get it to go on? or were you able to just put it on there and call it a day.
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did it take any adjustments or additional items like a spacer or anything like that to get it to go on? or were you able to just put it on there and call it a day.
I ran something like this to give it the extra room it needed, easy peasy.

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Old 03-03-2014, 10:15 PM   #21
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Well I'll definitely look into getting that as a temporary use till I get the $ to get the bumper and tire carrier I want
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you might be able to carry it for a while with the stock one, but the extra weight will put a hurtin on the hinges and mount points
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I'm looking into the BFG KOs for when I lift my jeep. I did a bit of research and came up with some interesting results. Let's say the rim is of equal weight, just some random 15" wheel. A 31x10.50 weights 44lbs plus the weight of a 15" wheel. Compare that to a 33x12.50 that weighs 53lbs. Cmon, that's not a big difference. A jeep tailgate will hold a 33x12.50 tire without an issue. Unless 9lbs is going to all of the sudden make it fall off, lol. I'll save the $1500 (at least) that I would spend on a tire carrier and go have myself a good time. Now if I was lifting the crap out of my jeep and was going Dana 60s with 37s then yes, get an aftermarket tire carrier. But on 33s, keep it simple.
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I'm looking into the BFG KOs for when I lift my jeep. I did a bit of research and came up with some interesting results. Let's say the rim is of equal weight, just some random 15" wheel. A 31x10.50 weights 44lbs plus the weight of a 15" wheel. Compare that to a 33x12.50 that weighs 53lbs. Cmon, that's not a big difference. A jeep tailgate will hold a 33x12.50 tire without an issue. Unless 9lbs is going to all of the sudden make it fall off, lol. I'll save the $1500 (at least) that I would spend on a tire carrier and go have myself a good time. Now if I was lifting the crap out of my jeep and was going Dana 60s with 37s then yes, get an aftermarket tire carrier. But on 33s, keep it simple.
That's the kind of info that I've been for. Like you said, 9lbs isn't gonna make a difference. No need to go spending a few hundred bucks for 9lbs more of tire
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My OE carrier cracked on top 3-4 months after mounting a 33x12.50 spare tire on an aluminum wheel. That was in spite of having also installed taller rubber tire snubbers to prevent tire movement.
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My OE carrier cracked on top 3-4 months after mounting a 33x12.50 spare tire on an aluminum wheel. That was in spite of having also installed taller rubber tire snubbers to prevent tire movement.
Alternatively, I ran it for years on a 97 with not a single issue. Like I said, 9 pounds.
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Any suggestions on tire carriers? I wasn't counting on that cost but what's a decent carrier? Nothing crappy but nothing overboard either
The Barricade Trail Force HD Rear Bumper and Tire Carrier have been selling really well and people are really happy with them. They are a great quality bumper and carrier for a great price. PM me for a quote!

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The Barricade Trail Force HD Rear Bumper and Tire Carrier have been selling really well and people are really happy with them. They are a great quality bumper and carrier for a great price. PM me for a quote! -Ryan
does that swing with tail gate or opens separately
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Looks like it swings seperate
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I'm looking into the BFG KOs for when I lift my jeep. I did a bit of research and came up with some interesting results. Let's say the rim is of equal weight, just some random 15" wheel. A 31x10.50 weights 44lbs plus the weight of a 15" wheel. Compare that to a 33x12.50 that weighs 53lbs. Cmon, that's not a big difference. A jeep tailgate will hold a 33x12.50 tire without an issue. Unless 9lbs is going to all of the sudden make it fall off, lol. I'll save the $1500 (at least) that I would spend on a tire carrier and go have myself a good time. Now if I was lifting the crap out of my jeep and was going Dana 60s with 37s then yes, get an aftermarket tire carrier. But on 33s, keep it simple.
I agree with this, but I'm pretty sure the wrangler comes stock with 29" wheels, so it would be more than 9lbs heavier, maybe closer to 20lbs? I'm not sure, but I believe it would be more than that, and people have definitely had problems with 33" tires on the stock carrier.

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