Tire change - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 01-02-2012, 07:39 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
ILL_state's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 107
Tire change

I am relatively new to a jeep having bought it in september and i was thinking about if i ever get a flat or something happens where i need to change a tire. should i look into getting a hi-lift jack? right now i have 31's without any lift and i thought it may be difficult to change with an ordinary jack.

ILL_state is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-02-2012, 07:46 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
XJ Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Walking The Plank
Posts: 16,640
High lifts arent the most stable things in the world for lifting a vehlicle.. But if your careful with how you place it and get a jack stand under your axle asap they are a good option as they can be nicely mounted on the outside of the Jeep. Look into a high lift jack offroad base to help with the jacks stability..

__________________
-XJ- 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Gone
1999 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Party Hard


-InfernoGirl- "They are the most fun you can have with your pants on..."

"Selfless over Selfish" RIP Brian "96_XJ" Perrine
XJ Knight is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-02-2012, 08:21 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
DeFazio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 246
x2 with the jack stands. hi lifts are great for offload jacking other than that a standard car jack should suffice. I'm pretty sure the stock jack can change a tire up to 35"? not positive though
DeFazio is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-02-2012, 11:42 PM   #4
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 30,852
Images: 2
Hi-Lift jacks are inherently unstable and are definitely not the preferred tool for a simple tire change. I even stopped carrying my Hi-Lift years ago since they are simply extra weight without me ever having much need to use them on the trail. In fact, I've only used mine twice in 15 years of offroading and neither time was it required or the safest way to have jacked up my Jeep. My Hi-Lift now lives permanently in a backyard shed.

Besides, the OE factory jack works fine for changing 35" tires, and even 37" in a pinch, no matter how tall the suspension lift is since you lift from the axle. Only tire height affects axle height.

Here's my factory jack lifting my axle with 35" tires, you can see it does so with room to spare.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	35OnOEjack.jpg
Views:	85
Size:	47.7 KB
ID:	87155  
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:47 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
ILL_state's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 107
would quadratec sell the factory jacks? if not do you know where i can get one?
ILL_state is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:56 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
XJ Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Walking The Plank
Posts: 16,640
if you don't have your stock jack perhaps this is a good option as it is compact enough to not take up to much space 2 Ton Compact Trolley Jack
__________________
-XJ- 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Gone
1999 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Party Hard


-InfernoGirl- "They are the most fun you can have with your pants on..."

"Selfless over Selfish" RIP Brian "96_XJ" Perrine
XJ Knight is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 03:57 PM   #7
Upside-down Disorder
 
InvertChaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NoVa
Posts: 7,879
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILL_state
would quadratec sell the factory jacks? if not do you know where i can get one?
You've checked under your passenger seat right? Just checking. I've heard that if you can find a land rover in the junkyard, their bottle jacks make a great replacement.
__________________
|2004 Jeep TJ "Green Machine"|4.0L 5 speed Dana44|33x12.50x15 Goodyear Duratracs|2.5" RC coils + 1.25" body lift|OME NitroSport shocks|4.56 gears|Skid Row Engine Skid|BCC Sliders|Currie AntiRock|
InvertChaos is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 04:08 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
XJ Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Walking The Plank
Posts: 16,640
XJ's and ZJ's arent' the most difficult vehlicles to find in the yards. Im guessing if you found one that still had a stock jack in it those would work as well if not be the same ones used in the YJ's and TJ's durring there respective time frames
__________________
-XJ- 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Gone
1999 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Party Hard


-InfernoGirl- "They are the most fun you can have with your pants on..."

"Selfless over Selfish" RIP Brian "96_XJ" Perrine
XJ Knight is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 05:01 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
WaterDR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,332
If I get a flat, two words: Tow Truck.
WaterDR is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 05:05 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
XJ Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Walking The Plank
Posts: 16,640
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterDR View Post
If I get a flat, two words: Tow Truck.
__________________
-XJ- 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Gone
1999 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Party Hard


-InfernoGirl- "They are the most fun you can have with your pants on..."

"Selfless over Selfish" RIP Brian "96_XJ" Perrine
XJ Knight is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 07:36 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterDR View Post
If I get a flat, two words: Tow Truck.
Why is that?
tangofox007 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 08:40 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
XJ Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Walking The Plank
Posts: 16,640
Quote:
Originally Posted by tangofox007 View Post
Why is that?
my guess is he doesn't carry a spare.. That isn't uncommon for Wrangler owners especially if they are running larger tires and don't have a aftermarket tire carrier as the stock tire carrier has it's limits
__________________
-XJ- 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Gone
1999 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Party Hard


-InfernoGirl- "They are the most fun you can have with your pants on..."

"Selfless over Selfish" RIP Brian "96_XJ" Perrine
XJ Knight is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 09:40 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
WaterDR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,332
No. I have a spare and it is the correct size too.

Unless I am out in the bush, flat tire results in phone call. That's why God created road side assistance. That and the fact that I have a wife.
WaterDR is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 10:49 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
TJNewbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Robertsdale,AL (Lower Alabama)
Posts: 1,793
Hope you've got AAA.
TJNewbie is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 10:53 PM   #15
Dont forget a Jack strap

WF Supporting Member
 
jkaufman_95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: On the Road,
Posts: 30,846
I carry my stock jack, but there is a bottle jack in my garage that would be just as good as a replacement for $25...
__________________
Do I look like a cat to you boy? Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? DO YOU SEE ME EATING MICE?
jkaufman_95 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2012, 11:08 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterDR View Post

Unless I am out in the bush, flat tire results in phone call. That's why God created road side assistance. That and the fact that I have a wife.
That's a fantastic way to turn a minor inconvenience into a major hassle.

Just a couple of weeks ago, a middle-aged, able-bodied man had a flat tire in front of my house. I offered to change it for him. No way, said he. Called AAA. Three hours later, he was on his way.
tangofox007 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 01:14 AM   #17
Jeeper
 
WaterDR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,332
Not a problem here. I live in a town of 12k with a major interstate passing through and probably 3 tow truck services within a mile from my house. Sometimes it is best to NOT do something just because you can. If I had to be somewhere, I'll do what it takes. I don't use AAA. I use USAA and they allow me to call the service directly and then re-imburse me. This means the service gets paid pull price and not some discounted rate.

Missed three days of work last winter installing a battery in my wife's car....f-ed my back up. Could have had the local auto parts store do it for free.

I don't rotate tires, I don't do brakes, and I don't change oil even though I can and have many times. These services are just too cheap and the places need the business.
WaterDR is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 03:18 AM   #18
Show Me Your 8008135!

WF Supporting Member
 
s3nt3nc3d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Piqua, OH
Posts: 3,642
Send a message via AIM to s3nt3nc3d
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterDR View Post
I don't rotate tires, I don't do brakes, and I don't change oil even though I can and have many times. These services are just too cheap and the places need the business.
I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....
__________________
"We don't build great brakes because we think you don't know how to drive, we build them for the guy on the road in front of you that doesn't." - Black Magic Brakes
s3nt3nc3d is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 05:51 AM   #19
Dont forget a Jack strap

WF Supporting Member
 
jkaufman_95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: On the Road,
Posts: 30,846
Quote:
Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d

I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....
Agreed. Last time I took a company truck to walmart I told them to use mobil one and they said they didn't have it and had valvoline that was "just the same" uh huh... Goodbye.
__________________
Do I look like a cat to you boy? Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? DO YOU SEE ME EATING MICE?
jkaufman_95 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 06:42 AM   #20
Jeeper
 
Rubicondon53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: pennsylvania
Posts: 1,588
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
Hi-Lift jacks are inherently unstable and are definitely not the preferred tool for a simple tire change. I even stopped carrying my Hi-Lift years ago since they are simply extra weight without me ever having much need to use them on the trail. In fact, I've only used mine twice in 15 years of offroading and neither time was it required or the safest way to have jacked up my Jeep. My Hi-Lift now lives permanently in a backyard shed.

Besides, the OE factory jack works fine for changing 35" tires, and even 37" in a pinch, no matter how tall the suspension lift is since you lift from the axle. Only tire height affects axle height.

Here's my factory jack lifting my axle with 35" tires, you can see it does so with room to spare.
Agree x3. I've had mine since 98, and used it only three times Once on the trail, as a hand winch, before we got the electric 8k winch, to pull a fence post, and to lift the corner of my back porch for foundation work. My hi lift lives in the barn.
__________________
04' Rubi, with all the gizmos we need for long range excursions, / home modified excursion trailer;

96' Lexus 450, locked, loaded and ready to roll..
'12 VW New Beetle
Rubicondon53 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 07:22 AM   #21
Jeeper
 
WaterDR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,332
Quote:
Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d View Post
I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....
I don't use Walmart or a Sears types of place. To have tires rotated and balanced, I use a tire place. Oil changes? The dealer or a Valvoline shop. All places where I can see everything myself and walk back and take a look. Everyones gotta find what works for them.

I also prefer to eat at places with exposed kitchens.
WaterDR is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 09:07 AM   #22
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d View Post
I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....
I did a brake job last week for a neighbor who had just gotten a free tire rotation from a chain tire store. Right side lug nuts were torqued so tight I had trouble getting them loose with a 25" breaker bar. (The stock lug wrench would not have worked.) Left side lug nuts were so undertorqued they would have come off with a 1/4" ratchet wrench.
tangofox007 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 09:34 AM   #23
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 30,852
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkaufman_95 View Post
Agreed. Last time I took a company truck to walmart I told them to use mobil one and they said they didn't have it and had valvoline that was "just the same" uh huh... Goodbye.
Valvoline is one of the best quality oils in the world, I'd place their lubricants on the same level as any other top quality lubricant made, including Mobil or Mobil-1. Personally, I have preferred and used Valvoline for over 40 years.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 10:59 AM   #24
Dont forget a Jack strap

WF Supporting Member
 
jkaufman_95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: On the Road,
Posts: 30,846
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
Valvoline is one of the best quality oils in the world, I'd place their lubricants on the same level as any other top quality lubricant made, including Mobil or Mobil-1. Personally, I have preferred and used Valvoline for over 40 years.
That's fine, it's a personal preference thing, for my engines I run mobil one full synthetic, my dads car (1999 crown vic) has 198,000 with maybe an oil change every 10-12k and the only problem it's had is I replaced the battery a few months ago.. Not saying the same results couldn't be found using valvoline , I just tend to find what I like and stick with it forever
__________________
Do I look like a cat to you boy? Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree? Am I drinking milk from a saucer? DO YOU SEE ME EATING MICE?
jkaufman_95 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 02:35 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
ILL_state's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 107
my neighbor's getting rid of the jack for his JK, would that work?
ILL_state is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 02:52 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
XJ Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Walking The Plank
Posts: 16,640
yerp
__________________
-XJ- 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Gone
1999 Jeep XJ Cherokee - Party Hard


-InfernoGirl- "They are the most fun you can have with your pants on..."

"Selfless over Selfish" RIP Brian "96_XJ" Perrine
XJ Knight is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-04-2012, 08:55 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
WaterDR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,332
I know everyone is full of horror stories from "chain" places....wanna hear some from mom and pop places?

WaterDR is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Poison Spyder Rear Stinger Tire Carrier DTS Vendor Spotlight! Great Deals for Members. 36 05-02-2014 06:28 AM
Need help with tires TX95YJ YJ Tech Forum 15 11-19-2011 05:32 PM
Max tire size w/o lift or gear change Frog JK General Discussion Forum 1 09-28-2011 06:22 PM
New tire question an help 97Sahara1325 TJ General Discussion Forum 32 09-10-2011 12:19 PM
Custom Rear Tire Carrier (Broken) Briangr TJ General Discussion Forum 4 08-22-2011 08:25 AM


» Rates
Get low rates on auto insurance in Canada!

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC