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Old 03-16-2008, 12:26 PM   #1
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Just bought my first 97 wrangler yesterday with 57000 miles on it for $4k. I think i got a pretty good deal....its completely stock and the first thing i would like to do is get some off road tires.... i could care less about how they look. I live in northern Nevada and want a tire designed for rocky steep desert mountains. It would be better if i didn't have to buy new rims for the best off road tire but if you guys recommend it, i will take your word on it. Just let me know what you all recommend thanks!

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Old 03-16-2008, 01:54 PM   #2
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for off-road tires that LAST without wworrying alot about tire plugs/patches... I recommend MickeyThompson Bias Baja Claws (competition variety if you can afford it otherwise the regular bias works great)... Maxxis Creepy (also bias and very expensive)... Interco TSL/SX (bias of course).

I run the rocky trails in arizona and these three tires are very popular out here

the interco probably has the largest variety of sizes

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Old 03-16-2008, 02:36 PM   #3
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Is your jeep a daily driver? If it is i would skip bias tires and go for a radial. If it's not a daily driver then a bias tire would hold up better than most radials.

I'd definitely go with a 31x10.5 size tire, that way you get the biggest usable tire you can fit on a stock jeep and if you decide to put on a lift later on down the road the 31's will still work fine, especially if its 2" of lift or less.

I dont have much experience with any bias tire so im gonna leave those recomendations up to those like ygohome who have experience with them.

The goodyear MT/R is a good choice if you were going to be going with a radial tire. They were specifically made for rocks and the sidewalls are strong and puncture resistant. If your jeep is a daily driver then i would put this tire on the top of your list because not only is it strong and made for rocks, but it gives a good ride for being an aggressive tire.

I just put a set of rubicon wheels with MT/R's on my jeep yesterday and i went to test them out in a bunch of different conditions and i can say im quite pleased. They give great traction and a pretty good ride. The ride is louder and a bit stiffer than what my bfg at's were like, but for an aggressive open tread design they're pretty tame on the road.

Also you dont need new rims as long as you're keeping the tire size at 31x10.5 or under which is the biggest you should run on a stock tj anyway.
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Old 03-16-2008, 02:44 PM   #4
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MTRs are awesome for a daily driver. When you take them on the trails, I wouldn't air them down more than 10psi though. Even though they are advertised as puncture resistent with "Duralast" technonology (LOL) they actualy cut really easily if aired down to <7 psi.

ANother very good radial is the Mickey Thompson Radial Baja Claw. Jack (1blkjp) uses them and he runs 4.5 - 5.0 rated trails most weekends in the sharp AZ rocks
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MTRs are awesome for a daily driver. When you take them on the trails, I wouldn't air them down more than 10psi though. Even though they are advertised as puncture resistent with "Duralast" technonology (LOL) they actualy cut really easily if aired down to <7 psi.

Good point ygohome...i never feel the need to air down much past 15 psi anyway for the kind of offroading i do. No tire is puncture proof, i guess thats why they advertise them as puncture resistant. I know a few guys who have really beat the hell out of their MT/R's on the rocks and have yet to slash a sidewall, but its always possible.

Leave airing down to 4 or 5 psi to those with beadlocks and bias tires...you should be fine at about 10-15 psi
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yeah my jeep is going to be a daily driver so i will most likely go with the good year mt/r's 31x10.5. These are 3 ply correct? I have just gotten into this off roading thing since i bought my jeep last weekend, and people say i should get at least an 8 ply tire to avoid getting punctures in the sharp rocks. Also, some people tell me to get the thinnest aggressive tire vs the wider aggressive tire. Any more advice would be helpful...thanks
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Yes the mt/r's are 3 ply. You really dont NEED an 8 ply tire...most of the tires with 8 plys are dedicated off road tires and wont wear and ride well on the street for daily driving use.

For a stock jeep i think the mt/r in 31x10.5 will be fine. You're not going to be doing anything too extreme at stock height so you really dont need a super aggressive 8 ply bias off road tire. The mt/r's have proven themselves very well on the rocks, even a lot of professional rock crawlers use mt/r's. With the mt/r you'll get a great off road tire, especially for the rocks, and a good daily driving tire.

About narrow vs wide, it depends what you are wheeling in. Sometimes you want that small contact path to put more weight in a smaller area like for snow, but sometimes you want a wide contact path for better floatation.

A 31x10.5 isnt too skinny and isnt too wide either. You'll be fine with a 31x10.5, anything bigger would be too big for offroad use on a stock tj.
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Thanks for your help! Im still curious about the 8 ply + tires...i wont be driving a whole lot in town...just to school and the store and back maybe 20-30 miles a day. How would 8 ply tires ride vs the 3 ply mt/r's if the 8 ply + had an off road tred? Also, this past weekend i got two flats on my jeep....its still way up on the side of a mountain...luckily i had someone else with me to take me back to civilization....but i dont want this to happen again, and even though it is a stock jeep i will be taking it in some rocky steep trails just exploring.
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The Interco Ground Hawg tires are nice.

Here is the link for the radial version.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/92611_25X_PG.htm
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The Interco Ground Hawg tires are nice.

Here is the link for the radial version.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/92611_25X_PG.htm

The smallest size is 32x11.5, thats no good for a stock jeep, especially offroad because you'll have no flex at all.

I really dont know much about ply construction vs durability but mt/r's are pretty hard to puncture. IMO just get a set of mt/r's, air them down for the rocks, and bring a few plugs and patches with you just in case. I'm sure there are a few guys here who can tell you that their mt/r's have been great in the rocks seeing as thats what they were primarily made for. I haven't had the chance to use my mt/r's in the rocks yet seeing as theres still about 3 feet of snow on all of our trails, but i can tell you that the sidewalls are stiff as hell.

Many of the interco tires are very strong, but the trade off is that they dont wear well, dont balance well, and many are not available in a 31x10.5.

Also do a little research on this topic. You can find alot of good reviews and articles for off road tires online
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:33 AM   #11
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trxus is available in 31x10.50 and they are one of the better swampers for a DD
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:37 AM   #12
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I would definately get some wheels with more spacing..
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:38 PM   #13
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Well i went with the goodyear MT/R 31/10.5 tires. They make a huge difference in the rocks they ride completely different than the toyo's that were on before....I paid $1200 for 5 of them and so far i love em...the tire guy did say that a lot of people were coming in with their Rubicons and the tires were not doing very well on the streets because pieces of the tires were coming off and not wearing evenly. I bought them at les schwab and the guy told me they are 6 ply tires...i thought they were three? Anyways, i did notice when i turn really sharp they rub on the inside...what can i do about this? Its not a big deal but i would rather not have that happen. THANKS
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Cool man thanks!
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hey ebp123, i live in reno and am basicly in the same situation you were in. just bought a stock 95 wrangler.

how are those tires workin out for you? what areas do you usually go mobbin in?
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #17
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Hey jag, the tires make a huge difference....i have been going up in the mountains near pyramid lake as of late....i use google earth to find routes. I went up quail canyon road about two hrs ago....really rugged road a lot of spots which have been washed out....when you get closer to the top of the mountain range, there are snow drifts covering the roads....these tires pulled me right through....really worth the money spent.
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I always say it depends on what part of the country you live in
a tire that performs good in new york wont perform very good in Cali.

but the MTR is a good tire but doesn't seem to last very well on road
out here in Nevada they do get sliced up very easily and for them to perform good off road you need to be running about 10-12 psi

the BFG mud out here does not do to well out here the sidewalls slice up just as fast as the maxxis bighorns do
I bought a set of bfg's and lost all four tires with in three trail runs (lost two tires in one day)these are 3+ trails

the best tires for off road out here is the bias ply tires they just don't last 50,000 miles like a passenger tire does




after you make up your mind on the tire you are going to run find someone in your area that does the same type of trail you do running that tire
that is your best review of a tire
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my rubi still has the stock mtr's, just passed 45,000 miles today. still a decent amount of tread left,
they have been good pavement pounders, but for our terrain up here they sucked in snow and werent too bad in the rain. good thing all it does here in AK is snow and rain.
they were great though for the week it didnt =)

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