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Old 04-29-2013, 09:50 AM   #1
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Where I go there isn't any rocks just dirt mud and clay. I'm lookin for a tire that is good on the road and good in mud. I was looking at thornbird tsl and I was wondering how good they are or what I need advice and opinions on what tires to look at

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I personally wouldn't even consider the TSL. A very good wearing/quiet all-around street & mud tire is the BFG Mud Terrain KM2. It'll do fine offroad & in mud while lasting at least 50k miles and being one of the quieter tires around.

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Where I go there isn't any rocks just dirt mud and clay. I'm lookin for a tire that is good on the road and good in mud. I was looking at thornbird tsl and I was wondering how good they are or what I need advice and opinions on what tires to look at
Thornbirds are neither good on the road, or in the mud, if magazine reviews that I've read are true...

Another option would be Wrangler Dura-Tracs by Goodyear.

I run Dunlop Mud-Rovers because they were cheap at the time, I'd used them before with good results, and I only drive my Jeep in the Summer months...

Tires are a personal choice, but I agree with Jerry - Thornbirds are not the answer!

My .02 worth as always.
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I need something aggressive or semi aggressive because there's some pretty nasty stuff back there
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X2 on duratrac found them online for 150 a piece. Discount tire price matched and I as out the door under 700. Best tire I've ever had. been 3000 miles and the traction gets better and better I can't spin them if I try anymore. No off road yet but heard great things. Just be cautious for the sidewalls
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If you're not rock climbing I would agree that Duratracs are very good. I've used them on dirt, mud, sand, snow and wicked rain storms. I have no complaints and they're quiet on the highway.
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Couldn't really ask for a better tire than the Duratrac, I've ran them on my TJ since November and put about 3500 miles on them, no wear at all yet and I've wheeled them hard, way harder than I should lol they perform great in the rain, snow, dirt, dry, heck even rocks and mud. However, I only have two complaints with them, the thin sidewall, and if its extremely muddy on the trails, your gonna slip and slid all over the place, they don't really clean themselves to well unless you get a little speed, or spin them out. As far as the sidewalls, I've barely grazed the side of a rock and put a 4" long gash down the sidewall completely through. Would I recommend the tire? Yes, but for use with alot of mud and/or rocks? No.
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Couldn't really ask for a better tire than the Duratrac, I've ran them on my TJ since November and put about 3500 miles on them, no wear at all yet and I've wheeled them hard, way harder than I should lol they perform great in the rain, snow, dirt, dry, heck even rocks and mud. However, I only have two complaints with them, the thin sidewall, and if its extremely muddy on the trails, your gonna slip and slid all over the place, they don't really clean themselves to well unless you get a little speed, or spin them out. As far as the sidewalls, I've barely grazed the side of a rock and put a 4" long gash down the sidewall completely through. Would I recommend the tire? Yes, but for use with alot of mud and/or rocks? No.
I need some for just mud and clay
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TSL is a big no no for street.. You could look into a BF goodrich KM2 perfect for street and off-road.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:02 PM   #10
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Thornbirds=thornturds.. JUNK Tire
KM2, MTR, most M/T tires, Duratracs, Treadwright retread tires MTR look-a-like (surprisingly a very good tire both on and off road). There are tons of different tires to look at.
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I run the firestone destination a/t
great all season tire for the road. no mud testing yet. I hear great thinks about the km2, the tko2, and the mtr2. I was going to buy a set of mtr2.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:36 PM   #12
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What about simex or silverstone tires
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:44 PM   #13
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Just put on a set of Nitto Trail Grapplers. The salesman said they were excellent tires. Actually I like the look of them and the price wasn't that bad, but we will have to wait and see.
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I need some for just mud and clay
Maybe look into the Super Swamper IROK Radials, or Pitbull Rockers Radials (which will definitely be my next set when i move up to 35"s). I have a friend that is running a set of 36.5" IROK Radials and i have never seen him get hung with them. They get him where ever he wants to go (along with his lockers lol). Only down side to the tires i listed just now is price, so it all depends on how much you plan to spend.
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How do the super swampers do on the road
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How do the super swampers do on the road
That is probably the last tire I'd want to drive with on the road unless I was already deaf & their noise wouldn't be noticed.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:20 PM   #17
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Just put on a set of Nitto Trail Grapplers. The salesman said they were excellent tires. Actually I like the look of them and the price wasn't that bad, but we will have to wait and see.
Listening to a salesman and buying a tire based on how they look is not the best approach IMO. I research them and ask friends and more experienced off-roaders and see what they have and get all the pros and cons and only then will I buy a tire. Shoot the Thornbirds look really cool with their big lugs hanging over the sidewalls but they are just another semi all terrain tire with no grip and no traction wet or dry.
I've been running different tires on my Jeeps for close to 30 years now and they have changed quite a bit over the years and the tire makers have different compounds, tread designs, sidewall construction, load ratings, sizes and will you be running mud, sand, rocks or trails are some things you need to consider. Most don't even think of checking the load rating when they buy new tires and that's very important when you are airing down your tires.

Bigchris think about all that is involved before you plop $500 to $2000 down on tires and do more research on the subject then make an educated decision based on that.
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Do they make maxxis mudzila anymore?
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I personally wouldn't even consider the TSL. A very good wearing/quiet all-around street & mud tire is the BFG Mud Terrain KM2. It'll do fine offroad & in mud while lasting at least 50k miles and being one of the quieter tires around.
2X, just put a set on two weeks ago and I am pleasantly please with how quiet they are.
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I need something aggressive or semi aggressive because there's some pretty nasty stuff back there
i run firestone destination m/ts on my TJ 4k miles and still no signs of wear altho i run 40 lbs in em (rides like a D8 CAT haha) the tread looks brand new and i love the self cleaning aspect of them. where i run is either desert sand or solid clay and the clay cleans out really well
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my jeep has an aftermarket exhaust (not too loud) with the hard top on you cant really hear the destination m/t top off its noticable but i like tire whine but hey thats just me
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[QUOTE=idiot magnet;3710888]Listening to a salesman and buying a tire based on how they look is not the best approach IMO.

Yeah I know, I was joking when I said that. Of course they are going to talk their product up, but I do like the tires.
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"Friends don't let friends buy Thornbirds"
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I'm prob gona get super swampers tsl radials
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Sounds like you've about decided but I thought id throw my pennies in too... I am a land surveyor in Utah. I drive in just about every condition there is it seems. I know wheeling in a jeep is different than my work pick up but I have had great success with the duratracs. Like others said though the sidewalls are a little week. I am running cooper discover at max right now and so far they are shaping up to be pretty good too.
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I'm prob gona get super swampers tsl radials
Your neighbors are going to love you and not in a good way.

You'd be better off with the Trxus MT if you go with an interco tire.
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I had TSL radials on a Toyota p/u. Had lockers front and rear. The tires were decent in the dirt and good in the mud. However they were terrible in the rain and snow on the road. Traction was marginal at best in those conditions.
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I want something aggressive with alot of bite my work is bout 5 miles from my house where I hunt is bout 10 all red dirt roads and thick and sometimes soupy mud back there my jeep is a daily driver but I don't drive on the road for alot of miles just once and a while
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Your story sounds exactly like mine. I live close to work and go hunting in Iowa where mud gets really bad. KM2 were my choice. I would buy them again. Excellent in the mud and I have never had any issues with snow or rain on the road.
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Your story sounds exactly like mine. I live close to work and go hunting in Iowa where mud gets really bad. KM2 were my choice. I would buy them again. Excellent in the mud and I have never had any issues with snow or rain on the road.
Are they that good cuz some places where I go are straight up bogs

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