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Old 07-15-2013, 09:05 AM   #1
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I have a 2004 Rocky Mountain Edition Jeep Wrangler with 33x12.5x15 w/a 2 inch body lift. I have room for 35's without getting into to much of a twist, but will the jeep be able to handle the 35's without wearing the transmission or motor??

Question I guess I'm asking is, I already have 33's, would 35's make that much of a difference??

Thank you so much and I'm SO new to the Jeep world and the experience it brings.. I had a blast on my first ride yesterday but it showed me a lot about my jeep and what mods I'm going to have to have if I'm going to ride the trails and rocks..

Thanks so much!

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Unless its a 4banger I don't see a problem other than maybe a little rubbing. Nothing a cheap $500 rustys susp lift wouldnt fix.

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no, you wont have enough room for 35's...especially if you want to flex at all (i would doubt you could flex with your current 33's on this setup).

The one good thing for you is you've got a d44 rear axle so you should be ok there but your front axle should be upgraded and you'll also need new heavy duty tie rods and drag links at the very least for steering.

i'm running 35's and have about 5" of lift and flat fenders...along with a new 8.8 rear axle, chromoly axle shafts in front, 4.88 gears, and an iron rock steering system.
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I have a 2004 Rocky Mountain Edition Jeep Wrangler with 33x12.5x15 w/a 2 inch body lift. I have room for 35's without getting into to much of a twist, but will the jeep be able to handle the 35's without wearing the transmission or motor??

Question I guess I'm asking is, I already have 33's, would 35's make that much of a difference??

Thank you so much and I'm SO new to the Jeep world and the experience it brings.. I had a blast on my first ride yesterday but it showed me a lot about my jeep and what mods I'm going to have to have if I'm going to ride the trails and rocks..

Thanks so much!
Well if you really want to do serious offroading, you should get a suspension lift first off. Your jeep won't flex with 35s and that body lift. My wrangler has 31s and 3.73s. If I put 35s on there it won't have enough power to go into 4th gear lol.

If I were you I'd stick with the 33s, and get a suspension lift. Your not going to get a stock wrangler into a situation where 35s are required. A wrangler with 33s will go the same places if you know what your doing.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:23 AM   #5
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Yea I'm riding with someone who has an Unlimited X with 3 1/4, w/disconnects and 35'sx17's.. The only time I struggled yesterday with rubbing, was when I slide off front end first into a rut, the back left tire scrubbed the fender flare a little but that was all.. I need to measure my body lift to make sure it's a 2 or 3 to be more accurate.. Right now it looks like I'll be riding easy until I get the money for a more appropriate susp. lift, disconnects and all the goodies.. Lol.. Thank you so much Jeep Guy and Owen!
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Yea I def. found that out yesterday Teague on my first trail ride.. The 35's in front of me did a little better but like you said, I had to find the "right" line so to speak. We are saving but first, we have to get some rims/tires as the ones that are on it, are A/T 33's and they are worn out; which was some problem yesterday, I had no bite..
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A 2 inch body lift is not sufficient to run 35's. You do not mention what you have for gearing either and that makes a big difference when you put big tires on along with a bunch of other things necessary. What you are running now is not enough to properly run 33 inch tires as mentioned above and most people will tell you to get rid of the 2 inch body lift. There is a lot of information on this forum to help you achieve what you are after.
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A 2 inch body lift is not sufficient to run 35's. You do not mention what you have for gearing either and that makes a big difference when you put big tires on along with a bunch of other things necessary. What you are running now is not enough to properly run 33 inch tires as mentioned above and most people will tell you to get rid of the 2 inch body lift. There is a lot of information on this forum to help you achieve what you are after.
I'm sorry 530, as far as I know the specs are Dana 44 axles and 3.73 gears.. We bought the jeep as a repo from a local credit union for a great deal so...the unknown..
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I'm sorry 530, as far as I know the specs are Dana 44 axles and 3.73 gears.. We bought the jeep as a repo from a local credit union for a great deal so...the unknown..
To properly run 35's you would want 4.88 gearing if you have the 5 speed manual trans. Not sure what type of wheeling you intend for this but it takes a lot of $ to set up a Jeep to run 35's the right way. It takes $ to set up a Jeep to run 33's properly but it is easier on the wallet.
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To properly run 35's you would want 4.88 gearing if you have the 5 speed manual trans. Not sure what type of wheeling you intend for this but it takes a lot of $ to set up a Jeep to run 35's the right way. It takes $ to set up a Jeep to run 33's properly but it is easier on the wallet.
Thanks 530KTM.. I went and measured my body lift and I actually have a 3 inch body lift.. I'm going to try the 35's since I already have 33's and they do fine on the highway.. I'm hoping to get a 2 or 3 suspension lift in the future as well as possibly changing my gears.. I believe I currently have 3.73 with Dana 44 axles.. I won't be able to flex much right now but I'll look good and be a whole lot safer than I am now on almost bald A/T's.. Thank you guys so much for all the input and I have written it down for future reference..
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Thanks 530KTM.. I went and measured my body lift and I actually have a 3 inch body lift.. I'm going to try the 35's since I already have 33's and they do fine on the highway.. I'm hoping to get a 2 or 3 suspension lift in the future as well as possibly changing my gears.. I believe I currently have 3.73 with Dana 44 axles.. I won't be able to flex much right now but I'll look good and be a whole lot safer than I am now on almost bald A/T's.. Thank you guys so much for all the input and I have written it down for future reference..
So your basically saying "I don't care about your advice, I'm doing it anyway". OK then. Let us know how the 35's work out with a massive body lift, stock brakes, stock gears, etc, etc... Dont forget to post pics!
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dont kill a nice jeep. you made a statement about saving for a lift, 1st thing any jeeper should learn is not to waste money on poor decisions. there are two ways to learn that, one is to research and learn about what works and what doesnt, the other is breaking out the visa several times for the same parts and still not having a well built rig

there are a few threads about what is needed for 35's
steering is a must, i thought i could get by, first trail ride with 35's bent the tie rod into a boomerang. and i was simply coming off a rock, nothing jarring or any hard hits.
brakes are a second, black magic will do the trick. until you feel what quality brakes are, you really cant tell how bad stock ones are with over-sized tires

right there you are around 300 if you go with a zj tie rod, adequate, but not great
you dont need to regear, but that just limits what your trans can do. regear will cost between 1200-1500. add another $300 for mid level axle shafts

so we'll stay on the low end and say 1800 so far, add another $500 for a basic lift kit and you're at $2300 for an entry level rig that can handle 35's, oh ya, then the cost of the rubber

slow down my friend, there is more to running big tires than slapping 35's on and calling it a day. luckily for you, you are already running a d44 rear. If you need new tires and now you want to go 35's in the future, search the classifieds for a bit and get some lightly used 33's for cheap until the rest of your rig can handle 35's
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dont kill a nice jeep. you made a statement about saving for a lift, 1st thing any jeeper should learn is not to waste money on poor decisions. there are two ways to learn that, one is to research and learn about what works and what doesnt, the other is breaking out the visa several times for the same parts and still not having a well built rig

there are a few threads about what is needed for 35's
steering is a must, i thought i could get by, first trail ride with 35's bent the tie rod into a boomerang. and i was simply coming off a rock, nothing jarring or any hard hits.
brakes are a second, black magic will do the trick. until you feel what quality brakes are, you really cant tell how bad stock ones are with over-sized tires

right there you are around 300 if you go with a zj tie rod, adequate, but not great
you dont need to regear, but that just limits what your trans can do. regear will cost between 1200-1500. add another $300 for mid level axle shafts

so we'll stay on the low end and say 1800 so far, add another $500 for a basic lift kit and you're at $2300 for an entry level rig that can handle 35's, oh ya, then the cost of the rubber

slow down my friend, there is more to running big tires than slapping 35's on and calling it a day. luckily for you, you are already running a d44 rear. If you need new tires and now you want to go 35's in the future, search the classifieds for a bit and get some lightly used 33's for cheap until the rest of your rig can handle 35's
Thank you Ironhead.. I wasn't going against any advice or whatever, the guys I have began to ride with, has apparently done this before and suggested the 35's.. However, we are now looking at all of it after reading the forums, listening to you guys and doing a LOT of research.. Kinda like putting 28's on an Oldsmobile and never changing rotors-death trap.. Hadn't thought about the tie rods, axle shafts etc..

I'll add these suggestions to my list of things to research and consider. I WANT to do it the right way and I want to make sure I do things correctly so I feel safe on the trail. Kinda stuck between rock and a hard place as far as tires.. I have 33's and I don't have the $$ to buy a set now and another set maybe 3-6 months down the road.. So I think like you said, I'm gonna slow down and look at the big picture..after all, most of the jeepers I'm around in this group, have newer jeeps, (JK's) etc. and have already dialed theirs in.. Kinda...

Thank you guys for the information and things to consider, I truly appreciate it..
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So your basically saying "I don't care about your advice, I'm doing it anyway". OK then. Let us know how the 35's work out with a massive body lift, stock brakes, stock gears, etc, etc... Dont forget to post pics!
No Pink Percy, I'm not saying "I'm going to do it anyway," I was just saying I was thinking about going ahead with it and not do a lot of off road riding.. I'm considering all the forum information I'm receiving and taking it into deep consideration.. Thank you for your concern and I hope to have pictures of what she looks like now and along the build.. Have a wonderful day and week!
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no, you wont have enough room for 35's...especially if you want to flex at all (i would doubt you could flex with your current 33's on this setup).

The one good thing for you is you've got a d44 rear axle so you should be ok there but your front axle should be upgraded and you'll also need new heavy duty tie rods and drag links at the very least for steering.

i'm running 35's and have about 5" of lift and flat fenders...along with a new 8.8 rear axle, chromoly axle shafts in front, 4.88 gears, and an iron rock steering system.
Yeah...this guy didnt tell you youd need front axle shafts, tie rods, or drag links at all.

As stated...terrible idea to run 35's with a 3" body lift...you should focus your efforts and drop the body lift down to a 1 of 1.25" then pair it with a suspension lift and a few other add ons and then prepare for 35's with all the necessary add ons

I'm getting out cheap on Friday with my stuff...as stated, I'm gettin new front and rear gears/8.8 axle/chromoly axle shafts/and an iron rock steering system all for 2450 out the door (including install). If you'd like, I can post or send you a pic of my 99 sitting on 35's to show the clearance I have for them.
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Yeah...this guy didnt tell you youd need front axle shafts, tie rods, or drag links at all.

As stated...terrible idea to run 35's with a 3" body lift...you should focus your efforts and drop the body lift down to a 1 of 1.25" then pair it with a suspension lift and a few other add ons and then prepare for 35's with all the necessary add ons

I'm getting out cheap on Friday with my stuff...as stated, I'm gettin new front and rear gears/8.8 axle/chromoly axle shafts/and an iron rock steering system all for 2450 out the door (including install). If you'd like, I can post or send you a pic of my 99 sitting on 35's to show the clearance I have for them.
That would be great Owen... Yea I'm stuck w/the 3 inch Body Lift right now but I plan to pair it with a 2.5 suspension or 3 to run everything properly.. Then I'm starting my "Plan of Action" to purchase what I need to do everything the right way.. Money is an issue obviously as with everyone, but with my family of 4, it's pretty tight..
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I'll post a few pics of mine at the end of this reply...i still think you should drop the body lift down to a 1 or 1.25 then add a 3" suspension lift to make it easier on the wallet since you wouldnt "need" a slip yoke and cv shaft (you could get a zone 4.25" kit for like 450-500 shipped). That way you'd keep the body lower to the frame and also get rid of that huge gap. You'd then need to run some tube fenders and flat flares to gain some clearance going with that kit but it would work. After that its just the axle upgrades, steering, and brakes...then voila...should reliably be running 35's lol

The thread posted above with "i want to run 35's" on the jeepforum site is a great write up for what you'd need in order to run them...

Here is how i currently sit on 35's





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I'll post a few pics of mine at the end of this reply...i still think you should drop the body lift down to a 1 or 1.25 then add a 3" suspension lift to make it easier on the wallet since you wouldnt "need" a slip yoke and cv shaft (you could get a zone 4.25" kit for like 450-500 shipped). That way you'd keep the body lower to the frame and also get rid of that huge gap. You'd then need to run some tube fenders and flat flares to gain some clearance going with that kit but it would work. After that its just the axle upgrades, steering, and brakes...then voila...should reliably be running 35's lol

The thread posted above with "i want to run 35's" on the jeepforum site is a great write up for what you'd need in order to run them...

Here is how i currently sit on 35's





Thanks Owen.. I'm about to upload some pictures of mine in various states..clean/dirty and hopefully you'll have an idea.. I do have a Plan of Action I'm going to implement after I get my tires and wheels and the very next thing is the suspension lift.. I"m thinking of leaving the BL just for giggles but like you said, I may drop it down to 1-1/2 at least it'll give me some stability.. The only issue is I don't have 2300 for a suspension and so with that...I'm going to work slowly at getting what I need based on yours and the other suggestions..

When I get the tires/wheels, I'll def. upload a new picture..

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