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Old 02-11-2013, 05:04 AM   #871
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But that's not good that the milage is stored there. That's not going to fly with the inspection shop when my jeep lost milage.
Might gain. Again it will read whatever the vehicle it came out of was at.

Don't know what state you are in. They do record the mileage but there is no reason they would care how much the mileage changed.

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I'm in PA they care about the milage for emissions crap. I'm pretty sure its illegal here to tamper with your odometer. It'd be pretty obvious something was done if I lost milage haha. Are you talking about the digital readout odometers or the oldschool ones? Or does it not matter. I have the digital ones.

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That just doesn't make sense to me. You would think being a newer OBD-2 compliant vehicle, the mileage would be stored somewhere in the system.

If this is the case maybe there is a way to reset the odometer and read what is stored in the computer.

It just seems like that data should be stored somewhere else too, as swapping out the gauge cluster is a popular mod in a lot of different vehicles.

Has anybody tried pulling whatever fuse the gauge cluster runs through, or disconnecting the battery for a while and seeing if the mileage reading changes? I'm just thinking there has to be some way to make the cluster reset, and when it gets it's power back, read the correct mileage off the computer somewhere.

I know these sound like dumb questions but I just don't understand how the cluster is the only place that stores that data, there has to be some way to make a new cluster read the correct mileage.
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^ I'm with ya i don't think they would make it that easy to change to milage. Mean it literally takes about 5mins to get the gauge cluster out. If this was the case every shifty dealership would be buying gauge clusters off wrecked jeeps to lower the milage.
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:30 PM   #875
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That just doesn't make sense to me. You would think being a newer OBD-2 compliant vehicle, the mileage would be stored somewhere in the system.

If this is the case maybe there is a way to reset the odometer and read what is stored in the computer.

It just seems like that data should be stored somewhere else too, as swapping out the gauge cluster is a popular mod in a lot of different vehicles.

Has anybody tried pulling whatever fuse the gauge cluster runs through, or disconnecting the battery for a while and seeing if the mileage reading changes? I'm just thinking there has to be some way to make the cluster reset, and when it gets it's power back, read the correct mileage off the computer somewhere.

I know these sound like dumb questions but I just don't understand how the cluster is the only place that stores that data, there has to be some way to make a new cluster read the correct mileage.
Ah again, the mileage displayed IS stored in the cluster. If you do not believe, do a search.

It's not the only place The PCM has mileage stored in it but it is not displayed. It can oly be read with an DRB or other scan tool.
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Well at least the true mileage can be proven then at least, even if it doesn't display it correctly in the cluster.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:01 AM   #877
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Yeah mileage i will confirm that the mileage is stored in the cluster. I had a 91 accord that was the same. Cluster had burnt out and I gained 20 thousand miles on the readout when I found a replacement one at a scrap yard.
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Unless it's just the camera image, it looks like there is a dark area in the middle. Is that bulb on?
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:18 AM   #880
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How would all of you keep the bulb in the auto transmission indicator in place once you dremel out the hole to fit the led in? I'm assuming electrical tape but then wouldn't it jiggle around constantly?
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I did not have to enlarge any hole. I used a 4 or 5 blue 194/T10/168 bulb from ebay

The transmission numbers/letters have an aqua colored film under it. The blue led will still look aqua and not match the dash. I tore out the film (in pieces) with needle nose pliers. Note the number are now clear. The led I used faced straight up and shown into my eyes. I dabbed some black paint on the top. A bulb with side facing leds or smds would be better and just black out the top facing one if it has one.
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I did not have to enlarge any hole. I used a 4 or 5 blue 194/T10/168 bulb from ebay

The transmission numbers/letters have an aqua colored film under it. The blue led will still look aqua and not match the dash. I tore out the film (in pieces) with needle nose pliers. Note the number are now clear. The led I used faced straight up and shown into my eyes. I dabbed some black paint on the top. A bulb with side facing leds or smds would be better and just black out the top facing one if it has one.
Would you be able to go out and take a picture of it on for me real quick so I can see if I wanna pull out the films too?
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Take a picture of what?
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Auto trans indicator light turned on to see how it illuminates after you removed the films inside it
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About the hvac controls and o/d, hardtop defrost, hardtop wiper buttons, someone said they did cool white in them instead of blue but did blue in auto trans indicator, do they match very well or should I just get blue bulbs for those as well to match? As for the axle lock one I have it's already got what looks like an orange film on it so and I wanted to go red but I'm guessing I should just go cool white to make it more of a bright orange? Any input would help!
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Can I get an amber pic of guage light! (REQUEST) Got and orange jeep
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Can I get an amber pic of guage light! (REQUEST) Got and orange jeep
Got these in my yellow jeep. Cell phone pic so not great, they're a little lighter than in the pic. I think they look great. Plus its a solid color, not spotty like it looks.
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I haven't messed with the cluster but is there a way to change the green color of the mileage to another color?
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:15 AM   #890
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The display is a circuit board.
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Just bought my blue lights. First mod that didn't require my soul, hahaha.
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Unless it's just the camera image, it looks like there is a dark area in the middle. Is that bulb on?
It is the camera image. All bulbs are on
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Thanks for this thread. I did the blue and absolutely love it.
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the blue looks great
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I have a '97 TJ. I did the bright white leds for the gauges, and the transmission temperature gauge that I installed in the console. Looks great with the clear needles the '97 has. The aftermarket CD player is mainly blue so I put the bright whites in the hvac controls as well, and its a nice blue now. I also did the automatic shifter blue, and the factory fog light switch in blue as well. I ended up getting the T3 and T4 neo wedge led bulbs on eBay for the factory switch...
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I just finished up my dash lights last weekend, and I loooooooove em. Brings the interior to life. I went for the blue ones, but they almost look a bit purple. Anyway, here's some pictures, even though plenty have been posted.





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I just finished up my dash lights last weekend, and I loooooooove em. Brings the interior to life. I went for the blue ones, but they almost look a bit purple. Anyway, here's some pictures, even though plenty have been posted.
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I just finished up my dash lights last weekend, and I loooooooove em. Brings the interior to life. I went for the blue ones, but they almost look a bit purple. Anyway, here's some pictures, even though plenty have been posted.





Looks great, I initially bought the bulbs that werent the brightest, and some areas were brighter then other areas. So I ordered the brightest ones and just like yours, it looked more purple then blue, and since my shifter light was a legitimate blue, I had to send the gauge lights back.

Question for you though, How did you get your needles to stick out like you did? That looks great!
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Looks great, I initially bought the bulbs that werent the brightest, and some areas were brighter then other areas. So I ordered the brightest ones and just like yours, it looked more purple then blue, and since my shifter light was a legitimate blue, I had to send the gauge lights back.

Question for you though, How did you get your needles to stick out like you did? That looks great!
97-01 gauges have white needles...
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Looks great, I initially bought the bulbs that werent the brightest, and some areas were brighter then other areas. So I ordered the brightest ones and just like yours, it looked more purple then blue, and since my shifter light was a legitimate blue, I had to send the gauge lights back.

Question for you though, How did you get your needles to stick out like you did? That looks great!
Thank you! If you had darker areas, all ya had do was switch the bulb around, since they're polarized. As for the shifter, you could've gotten a blue LED for that as well

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