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Old 07-24-2013, 12:11 PM   #1
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TJ Jeep Wrangler reliability - better info

I wanted more up-to-date car reliability information that made the differences between cars clearer. So a few years ago I started getting people together to make this possible. TrueDelta updates actual repair frequencies, not just vague dots, four times a year, to track cars closely as they age.

We've been providing reliability stats for the JK for a few years. For some model years we have a decent number of participants, for others we don't. The more owners get involved, the more precise the information we can provide.

Participants simply report repairs the month after they occur on a one-page survey. When there are no repairs, they simply report an approximate odometer reading four times a year, following the end of each quarter.

To encourage participation, participants receive full access to all results, not just those for the Wrangler, for free. I'll share results for the TJ in this thread after each update.

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Old 07-24-2013, 12:13 PM   #2
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We've updated our reliability stats for the Wrangler to include owner experiences through March 31, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2006 Wrangler: 41, low, very small sample size
2005 Wrangler: 38, low, very small sample size

We'll have further updates in August and in November. As implied above, additional participants would be very helpful--we'd love to have as many participants for the TJ as we do for the JK.

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Old 07-24-2013, 12:43 PM   #3
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I wanted more up-to-date car reliability information that made the differences between cars clearer. So a few years ago I started getting people together to make this possible. TrueDelta updates actual repair frequencies, not just vague dots, four times a year, to track cars closely as they age.


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That's cool and all but how about doing this for Jeeps? In this forum we don't care about "CARS" so much.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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Well, there's only one Jeep, so no comparisons are possible!
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:10 PM   #5
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I've been providing updates on my vehicles to Mike for years.
Thanks for keeping the data Mike !
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Old 07-28-2013, 12:43 PM   #6
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You're certainly welcome, Lynn! Thanks for helping out, and putting a good word in here.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:45 PM   #7
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First I want to say that I really appreciate what your doing.

But I have a question. See Jeeps don’t typically see the same life conditions as say a commuter car. Whereas say a Honda Accord is pretty much just driven in similar conditions all over the world, these Jeeps may not be driven in similar conditions. For instance a Jeep in the NE is mostly used in damp conditions on nasty, overgrown old roads, where as Jeeps in the SW are used in dusty dry conditions in washes and on granite.
Quite often breakage and repairs to these Jeeps arent reliability issues but stress and overload issues that the typical Daily Driver doesnt see. For instance lets say that you take someone who runs 35 inch tires on a dana 35 rear axle, in the rocks. And breaks his axle.
Lets say that you get 500-600 peolpe who report that they broke their axle and report that. That report would look like Jeep has a problem with axles breaking. Whereas someone who wanted to drive a Jeep mostly unmodified would in all likelihood never have a problem with that axle.

So I guess my question is do you have a way of filtering out all the repairs that would incur from extreme use/ abuse? And how about the vast difference of conditions that these vehicles are driven in?

Please, Like I said I not Knocking you, and like I said I Really appreciate what your doing (the more knowledge the better when buying a vehicle). I am just concerned that and info I would give you about my Jeep (4.5" lift, lockers, 35" tires, 4.88 gears, stroked 4.0) would be totally inaccurate to anyone except to someone who wants to buy a Jeep exactly like mine and drive it exactly like I do.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:56 PM   #8
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First I want to say that I really appreciate what your doing.

But I have a question. See Jeeps donít typically see the same life conditions as say a commuter car. Whereas say a Honda Accord is pretty much just driven in similar conditions all over the world, these Jeeps may not be driven in similar conditions. For instance a Jeep in the NE is mostly used in damp conditions on nasty, overgrown old roads, where as Jeeps in the SW are used in dusty dry conditions in washes and on granite.

So I guess my question is do you have a way of filtering out all the repairs that would incur from extreme use/ abuse? And how about the vast difference of conditions that these vehicles are driven in?
Solid questions, as there truly is nothing like a Jeep Wrangler and where it'll take you.

I just signed up. Easy. In the survey portion, it actually asked questions about my Jeep, like if it was raised or lowered more than an inch from OEM specs, tires 2 inches larger or smaller or engine mods that increased power more than 15%, etc. So fill it out and see if your questions might already be answered.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:56 AM   #9
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Sorry for not responding to this sooner, I just saw the questions.

We exclude repairs due to contact with other objects, including the ground. We also exclude repairs that were very likely (or definitely) due to mods.

We ask about mods in case it at some point seems necessary to separately analyze or exclude vehicles with major mods. So far this hasn't seemed necessary.

Beyond this, I include a note on models often used for off-roading that they are often used for off-roading.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:58 AM   #10
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We've updated our reliability stats for the Wrangler to include owner experiences through June 30, 2013. (Another source is about 14 months behind.)

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2006 Wrangler: 17, low, very small sample size
2005 Wrangler: 52, low, very small sample size

We'll have further updates in November and February.

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Old 01-03-2014, 01:44 PM   #11
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We've updated our reliability stats for the Wrangler to include owner experiences through September 30, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2005 Wrangler: 66, moderate, very small sample size

We'll have further updates in February and in May. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be (including more model years).

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Old 03-27-2014, 11:14 AM   #12
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We've updated our reliability stats for the Wrangler to include owner experiences through December 31, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2006 Wrangler: 34, low, very small sample size
2005 Wrangler: 57, moderate, very small sample size

We'll have further updates in May and in August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

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Old 06-23-2014, 12:34 PM   #13
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Our reliability stats for the Wrangler now include owner experiences through March 31, 2014, making them nearly a year ahead of other sources.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2006 Wrangler: 54, low, very small sample size
2005 Wrangler: 69, moderate, very small sample size

Thank you, once again, everyone who has been helping. Next update in August.

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Old 09-29-2014, 12:14 PM   #14
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We've updated our reliability stats for the Wrangler to include owner experiences through June 30, 2014 (making them about 14 months ahead of some others).

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2006 Wrangler: 51, low, very small sample size
2005 Wrangler: 69, moderate, very small sample size

Next updates in November and in February. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be. (I'd love to get rid of the sample size disclaimers.)

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Old 12-28-2014, 02:45 PM   #15
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We've updated our reliability stats for the Wrangler to include owner experiences through September 30, 2014.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2006 Wrangler: 47, low, very small sample size
2005 Wrangler: 53, low, very small sample size

Additional participants would be very helpful. (I'd love to be able to drop the disclaimers and cover all model years.)

To view the repairs behind these numbers, check the stats for other cars, and sign up to help improve this information (next update in February):

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Old 12-28-2014, 03:13 PM   #16
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Is there a mobile app for thus? Otherwise I would probably forget to log all my repairs.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:16 PM   #17
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No mobile app, but mobile-friendly pages (for parts of the site so far, more coming).

We send an email with a direct link to the survey following the end of each quarter--next round soon.
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I have to say, truedelta.com is a fantastic website. It does the best job by far of providing unbiased opinions of vehicles. I'm proud to be a long time member of the site. I hope they keep up the tireless effort!!

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