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Old 11-24-2013, 10:41 PM   #151
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My Lift...

LIFT: Rubicon Express 5.5" LA kit
SHOCKS: Bilstien 5150's
SYE/CVD: Advance Adapters HD SYE Kit & RE drive shaft
TIRES/WHEELS: 35x12.5x15 MT MTZ's / 15x10 MT classic locks

Likes: Whats not to like? Great quality, Its suppose to RTi big numbers (I wouldn't know. I have not found anyone with a ramp yet) It rides better than a stock TJ, and hey it looks freakin cool. Oh and for me.. My lift matches my jeep in color.

Dis-Likes: none? maybe the multi adjustments of this complex kit in that it is neccesary for adjustment purposes it also allows for more points that you have to check periodicly. same with grease fittings but again would you want it any other way?

Would You Recommend: YES! Absolutley. I was almost talked into the 4.5" kit and trimming for 35's Im glad I went full 5.5" because Now I wish it was even bigger. I also highly recommend the Bilstiens. you will loose a little flex compared to the rubicon shocks due to the mounting adapters but I pull a boat with my jeep and it sees more pavement than anything and the bilstiens are very stable and ride GREAT.



So update.

I moved to Colorado since the OP. I live 2hrs from Moab now. Lift has been on for almost 5 years now, and "Thorn" has had the pleasure of doing some cool trails. I have logged around 38,000 miles since install.

First the bad:
1. Those damn bushings. Supposedly RE has resolved the issue but mine were junk. Daystar replacements installed after only 20,000 miles. However easy fix.
2. The drop down belly pan. The thing is IED proof and its a good thing too because its gonna drag.

Really thats it. Otherwise I've found that going long arm really was worth every penny. The RE lift is solid, reliable, rides excellent on pavement, flexes, and feels extremely stable in the rocks.

would I buy it again? .... No.
I would have had M40 build a custom 4 link with coilovers..
Would I recommend this kit? Absolutely.

Trail accomplishments.

Holy Cross
Schofield Pass
Pearl Pass
Lead King Basin
Crystal City
Grizzly Jeep Trail
Transfer Trail
Shrine Pass
California Gultch
Corkscrew Gultch
Hurricane Pass

Hells Revenge
Fines n Things
Poison Spider Mesa
Golden Spike
Gold Bar Rim
Metal Masher
Flat Iron Mesa

Lets have a bachlor party. with chics and booze and guns and fire trucks..
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:38 PM   #152
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My Lift...

SHOCKS: Bilstein 5100's
TIRES/WHEELS: BFG All-Terrain 30x9.50x15"

Likes: Rides much better than stock, Doesn't bottom out when jumping. Very complete kit. Very high quality parts.

Dis-Likes: 3" coils don't seem like quite 3" but I could be wrong. No disconnects included, but that's not a deal breaker. The instructions were kind of oddly worded but were good enough.

Would You Recommend: YES! This kit rides exceptionally well, and is very high quality. Took the abuse of sand dunes and jumps very well. I would recommend this kit for anyone who wants good offroad performance without sacrificing ride quality.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:02 PM   #153
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Lift : Rubicon Express SuperFlex - adjustable upper and lower control arms - front and rear adjustable track bars. Prothane 1" body lift.
Springs : RE 3.5"
SYE/DS : Advanced Adapters SYE , Tom Woods CV drive shaft
Shocks : Fox Remote Reservoir 2.0
Tires: 35" General Grabbers

PROS - Complete kit, includes everything needed for a smooth install. Everything bolted up nicely and seems quality built. The lift is height is perfect and really lands you over 4". I paired this with the 1" body lift to insure tire clearance and for additional upgrades down the road. Very happy with the flex, it articulates very well and has proved more than capable for my offroad needs.

CONS - Only one to speak of. As others have stated these are some very stiff springs. I feel evry nook and cranny in the road. I hope with time they will break in.
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Old 04-06-2014, 12:35 PM   #154
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Smile 2.5" RC Lift Kit Review 2006 Sport

Rough Country 2.5" Lift Kit. The kit included new coil springs, 2.2 performance shocks, 2.2 steering stabilizer, and a rear track bar relocation bracket. I am not a mechanic so I am learning as I complete these projects. This was a challenge for me.
03/ 10/2014-Post Mortem on the lift install: I got my Jeep back from the alignment shop today. They told me the front axle is 1/2 inch off center, but they were able to align the front end. This took care of the vibration I was experiencing. Mostly an adjustment to the tow of the front tires, no new parts needed. Rough Country told me this would not damage my vehicle. It goes down the road straight with no vibration at 65 MPH. After the install I put two new u joints in the rear drive shaft and that took care of the "feel it in your seat" vibration. I did not have to drop the transfer case. The RC 2.5" Lift Sway Bar Quick Discos, at the factory suggested 10.25" length, do not line up with the supplied disconnected storage brackets, they do however supply better cornering and a more stable ride on pavement than the factory ones. They come with two different mounting options and neither lined up. No big deal.
The RC 2.2 Steering Stabilizer is considerably better than the factory equipment.
General Assessment: The vehicle rides much different, I like it, it is a much stiffer suspension, but may relax over time. The lift also did something I didn't even think about. The lift allows more air to pass under the vehicle on the highway. This creates "buffeting" wind resistance and on windy days it can be a little squirrelly. I have not had the opportunity to test the articulation of the front axle as we still have 5 feet of snow covering everything. I would recommend this kit to others with the suggestions below. Link to you tube vid below.
A) I hope you have friends. I don't have any friends that are into this Jeep thing so I did it alone. Trying to set the springs and hold the axles down was very difficult.
B) Get the adjustable front track bar.
C) Properly prep your vehicle, power wash the undercarriage and soak the living shit out of every bolt your going to touch with BP Blaster or Liquid Wrench at least overnight.
D) If your new at this like me, invest in good tools, the impact wrench I bought got me through this.

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Old 04-22-2014, 10:35 PM   #155
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Lift: 2" BDS
4 Springs & 4 5500 Shocks
Price: 394.90 w/ Free Shipping

Kit was an easy install. I fallowed the directions except for un bolting the upper control arms. dprings went in eady after track bars were unbolted. Except for one bent shock and a couple stripped bolts but apparently thats a normal thing. And Pb Blaster works miracles.

CONS: None so far.

PROS: Easy install. So far the ride is smoother than stock even though the springs are new.

I would recomend this kit any day of the week. And I'll give an update a few months from now.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:08 PM   #156
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I have had my 4 inch short arm lift kit on for almost 10k and have loved every second of it!

My rigs setup now:
-4 Inch Pro Comp Short Arm Lift Kit
-ES3000 Shocks
-35x12.50 Pro Comp MT2's
-JB conversions super short SYE
-Tom Woods rear shaft
-Currie rear upper adjustable control arms
-Currie heavy duty Johnny joint front track bar

Pros- lift kit comes with almost everything you need from tubular lower control arms, front and rear sway bar links, rear track bar bracket and all related hardware as well as front and rear shocks. Also, has hardware needed for t case drop but recommend getting SYE and rear shaft all in one shot and be done with it. Driving with t case drop was a pain in the arse popping out of gear sometimes.

Cons- ES3000 shocks are not the best but will do for now.

I highly recommend this lift kit to anyone who isn't trying to spend a grand or more for a four inch lift. It's not the smoothest ride but hey some ppl like it a little rough

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Old 10-10-2014, 01:39 AM   #157

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Currie 3in Lift

Currie Lift (only saw one other in the thread to date)
LIFT: Currie 3 in progressive springs, Upr &Lwr Currie arms, front/rear Currie track bars,
SHOCKS: Bilstein 5100s
SYE/CVD: Advanced Adapters SYE Kit, Tom Woods CV driveshaft
TIRES/WHEELS: Wrangler Armortrac 265/70-R16 (31 x 10.5), Pro Comp 1069-6865 16x8

Likes: The ride- both on and off road.Soft enough to smooth out the rough bumpy road yet firm enough to handle the trails I play on.To me my TJ now flows over rough road sections rather than shake over them as it did stock.

Dis-likes: Zerk fittings on the arms- had to replace some that leaked. Tires are really great for the road but if I had to do it over again, they’d be a bit bigger with more aggressive tread.So far no problem off road, but not a lot of confidence.

Definitely recommended! - It’s a bit pricey but my experience has been you get what you pay for.I did when I got my Currie lift.No disappointments.
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Tonka Toy, 2004 Wrangler X, 3in Currie lift, arms track bars, AA SYE, Tom Woods CV Shaft, Warn Zeon 10-S. Eaton TrueTrac front and rear.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:24 AM   #158
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LIFT: Clayton Pro Series 4-link rear, 3- link front. Rear axle truss and front axle bridge and Johnny Joints on all ends. 3.5" Metalcloak dual rate coils rear and Fox coilovers front for ~4" of total lift.
SHOCKS: 10" Fox coilovers on the front, 12" Fox remote reservoirs in the rear, outboarded.
SYE/CVD: Rubicon, so no SYE. Tom Woods driveshaft, cut to fit.
TIRES/WHEELS: 35" MTR/K tires, Hutchinson Rock Monster 15" beadlock wheels.

Likes: All the articulation I can throw at it. Definitely room in the long control arms to grow in to larger tires. Comfortable ride on-road and off-road. Excellent climbing and descent off-road

Dis-Likes: Lower control arms dragged on an obstacle. Has only happened twice in nearly 2 yrs though. Installation required cutting off stock mounts and clearancing transfer case skid to weld new frame side control arm brackets.

Would You Recommend: Yes, for 35 inch tires or larger.


Here's a shot of the full kit installed

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Old 01-07-2015, 09:59 AM   #159
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I also have the rough country 2.5" lift that came with progressive rate springs, shocks and skid plate drop. I upgraded to jks disconnects and adjustable front track bar. After I did the track bar there was a bit more. Articulation off-road and. Little better ride quality. Would recommend anti-rock sway bar from currie

Pros: has a great ride very smooth off-road fairly easy to install had good directions for install and great customer service.

Cons: don't like the shocks I have replaced the shocks at least 3 times because of failures. Ride quality from the shocks isn't the greatest would go with rancho adjustable. Skid plate drop cause the transfer case lever to squeak so got rid of it put a MML 1" lift in from browndog.
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Old 01-09-2015, 06:42 PM   #160
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I purchased a ProComp 2inch lift with shocks and springs about four months ago. This lift kit comes with Es3000 shocks. After installation I ended up with a little over 3 inches in the back and had to add a .75 spacer in the front to try and level it out. What I thought would be a budget minded small lift was not cheap. The shocks that come with it (Es3000) are sh*^ and three inches of lift caused drive line vibration and I had to buy a 1in TC drop fro Teraflex to get buy until I can afford an SYE. I returned the es3000 shocks to 4WP and bought Pro-runner shocks. Unfortunately 5100s were on back order. I am now very pleased with the ride of my jeep as it is comfortable enough to drive every day. Tires are 32x11.5r15 bfgs.

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Old 01-16-2015, 02:49 PM   #161
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Lift: 2" coil spacers
Shocks: Rancho RS9000XL
Tires/Wheels: BFG All-Terrain 31x10.5x15 on Generic Matte Black Alloy Wheels (15xnot sure)

Likes: I am the 6th (gasp!) owner of my Jeep. The 4th owner built it up a bit. There were Pro Comp ES3000 shocks on the front and either stock or some brand that I am not aware of on the back. 2 days ago, I upgraded the shocks to the Rancho RS9000XL's. Oh, Dear, Lord. Hard to explain the improvement in ride. All driving has been on road, but I've been telling people that I've gone from a bucking bronco to a civilized ride. Best money I've ever spent.

Dis-likes: The previous owner put on the coil spacers, which is not ideal. I'd like to get some 2" OME springs sometime in the near future.

Would You Recommend: Um, hell yes. There is a magazine called "Overland Journal" that did a comparison test of the big players in off-road aftermarket shocks including my Rancho's, Old Man Emu, Bilstein, and Fox as well as a couple others that escape me at the moment. The Rancho's were the hands down winner of the test having won nearly ever category measured. That's what sold me on these shocks as well as their adjustability. By the way, I have them set at 5, the middle setting, per the Overland Journal recommendation. I have not been off-road with them yet, but if the on-road quality is any indication, I'm sure they will do splendidly.
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Old 04-03-2015, 06:28 AM   #162
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Lift: 2 inch OME coils
Shocks: Bilstein 5100's
Tires: Mastercraft courser AXT on Raceline rims

Likes: Ride is very smooth and has almost no bounce. Glad I took the advice of many here on the forum and went with the OME set up

Dis-likes: It was pricey, but hopefully it will not need to be replaced for a long time

Would I recommend: Yes, as others have mentioned, save the money and go with a good lift the first time and you will be happy and save money in the long run.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:55 AM   #163
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2004 TJ Rubicon

3 inch BDS
1 inch Day Star Body Lift
1 inch Brown Dog MM Lift
Tom Woods DS Front and Rear
Metalcloak rear upper and lower control Arms

BDS came with front and rear adjustable track bars and fixed lower front control arms.

Pros. BDS Lift. Price, Ride, Easy Install, Warranty
Pros. Day star lift, completely new pucs

Con. Major vibrations after lift. Pinion in rear was completely off. Had to buy adjustable control arms in rear to get pinion in line. Same issue in front. Stock caster angle creates too much vibrations. Planning to purchase adjustable front arms soon.

The BDS parts seem to be very high quality. They also have a tech shop that answers the phone which is nice.

Overall very happy. Just know that when you lift your Jeep plan on fixing the problems the lift creates. Part of life.
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:38 PM   #164
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Update to Post #122. The RE 2" BB lift with RE monoshocks and RE replacement steering stabilizer has run VERY well for 3 years. Then we put 33/12.5 tires and new wheels on it several months ago just to see how it would go even though we already purchased a yet to be installed 3.5" lift. We ran for months with these tires and wheels on just a 2" lift. No rubs, drove great, no issues! HIGHLY RECOMMEND and if you have the same set-up don't worry about running 33'.
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:24 AM   #165
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Since this thread helped me so much, least I can do is give my two cents. I bought a slightly modified version of the OME Ultimate Kit from DPG Offroad where, if you haven't heard, Dirk is the man. Knows his stuff, is patient, and only has your best interest in mind. I was running the stock suspension and had 104xxx miles on it, so it was utterly whooped. I currently have heavy springs in rear and medium to heavy in the front. I wanted it more like a pickup since I have an LJ and tow/haul often. It rides like a pickup, which is ideal for me, but is 10000% better than stock. The suspension over bumps is just coil-rebound, no second or third bounce so it feels far more controlled. I installed Black Magic Brakes, and though the brakes are stronger, the Jeep doesn't dive like it used to under braking. It took me 6 hours to install on my own, so it shouldn't be tough for a shade-tree mechanic with some beer and half-decent tools. Overall, it's a phenomenal kit and well worth the money. If you have the extra coin to do so, or can wait and save up for it, I highly recommend it. You can do it right once, or spend extra time and money down the road fixing any issues that may arise. Do what's safe first and budget-friendly second.

EDIT: pics show stock vs OME, stock ride height, then lifted ride height.
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Old 07-31-2015, 11:09 AM   #166
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3.5" RE Superflex PLUS

Lift Round 2 (First lift documented in posts #122 and updated in #166)

2005 TJ X Rocky Mountain Edition
33x12.5 tires on Procomp alloy wheels

3.5" RE Superflex (about $920 at QT)
After reading reviews here and elsewhere I was concerned about this set-up by itself and added:
upper front/rear adj control arms
JKS front/rear adj track arms
Advanced Adapters SYE
Tom Woods driveshaft
(previously installed) RE monotube shocks

At this point, the install was going to be far beyond my skill level so I had a mechanic install all the parts. Even so, we had the following problems:

-QT ordered wrong driveshaft even though we verified my rear end using VIN. Had to return and get the right one.
-Not knowing I was going to add the SYE/DS combo the "straight" bracket for the rear track bar was included in the original RE lift kit. Had to order the "angled" bracket separately for better fit-up.
-I got a pair of rear struts with one 10" long and the other 8" long. RE sent me a pair of replacement 8".

Had to do this in two rounds due to parts issues. The lift was installed without the new SYE/DS, transfer case drop kit and angled bracket. I drove it home to await new parts. Wow what a trip that was. At 10mph I thought it was going to shake itself apart. Death wobble at 10mph! Drove ok at 40-45mph. Second round took care of everything but he missed the speedometer gear somehow working on the SYE so I had to go back and have him get my speedometer working again.

This combo got me up higher than expected. These pictures show the front and rear fender heights with no lift and 31" tires, 2" RE BB spacer lift with monotube shocks, and this last "3.5" lift with 33" tires. So I went from 32.5" in front to 38 1/4" (about 5.5" overall) and 32.5" rear to 38 3/4" (about 6" overall). Looks like I got my rake back. Assuming tires account for 1" of that, this ended up being a 4.5" lift. I think I've seen others experience this as well.

- Ended up getting more height out of the lift.
- Good quality parts
- Ride on road is "OK", could be worse
- No vibrations, wobble, hum through all gears and speeds up to 65mph

- RE install instructions are notoriously bad. Look on-line there are a lot of great write-up with photos.
- Wrong parts. Get everything out and verify every step before you dig into it.
- Pricey.
- Ride on road is only "OK". It's more bouncy and you can feel the bumps in the road more than before.

Would I do it again? At this point I would have known the RE 2" BB spacer kit with monotube shocks would run 33/12.5 tires as well as it did I would not have installed this lift because of the price to get just 3 more inches. It drove very well with that set-up. But I had already purchased the lift before I found that out and just decided to go for it.

Last picture is from the previous lift.
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Old 09-04-2015, 03:20 PM   #167
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Sky jacker 4" economy lift kit

Shocks:Hydro 7000

the goods: as the name states its an economy lift so it totaled with shipping around $600. so VERY cheap. it comes with new lower control arms front and back new sway bars and a rear track bar relocating bracket (front requires a new hole drilled) new front and rear coil springs and four hydro shock, also a transfer case lowering bracket. it was an intermediate install, hit a couple hitches and overall took 16 hours -_- but wasnt too bad.
on-road: a bit bumpy at higher speeds although does well on large dips and holes.
off-road: ive only taken it on a short little test so far but it handled...surprisingly well ( for being an economy kit) decent compression decent return and great clearance with 33" tires.

The bad: terrible instructions and a somewhat arduous install. bumpy on road

Recommend? YES. if you want a lift and dont want to spend a ton of money, this is surprisingly worth it. not for serious off roading ut is a nice in between.



Did you reuse the factory track bar or get an adjustable?
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