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Old 01-02-2014, 07:10 AM   #1
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Thumbs up TJ pulls stuck dumpster truck!

In the I "can't believe it worked" category - I had a dumpster load of firewood logs delivered. The truck got stuck in the soft dirt/mud while dumping the wood. It wouldn't budge, and we tried all the usual stuff (boards under wheels, rocking, etc.) After wasting time trying all this stuff I decided to try pulling with my Jeep. We hooked up with a nylon tow strap to the front tow hooks. I prefer pulling in reverse when possible so I can see what I'm doing. I put her in 4L and started pulling. No luck, as I was also on grass over soft dirt and was just spinning the tires. I then tried snatching with a running start. It didn't work the first several tries, but then the truck driver and I got the snatching coordinated with rocking the truck and viola, out it came. The only downside is I didn't get pictures.

A couple of the neighbors had seen what was happening and stopped me later on to tell me they wanted a Jeep. I told them to go for it!

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That's a great story! Everyone should have a Jeep!
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Wow. Impressive... Too bad about the pictures
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Just can't stop a Jeep!
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Great story!
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Old 01-03-2014, 08:53 AM   #8
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Good job getting it unstuck but try a recovery strap next time for better results.
Tow straps are for towing and recovery straps are designed for recovery. There is a big difference in the 2 and NEVER use tow straps with metal hooks.
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We had about an inch of freezing rain a few weeks ago here. I had to go over to my brother's place for awhile and had to cross train tracks on the way home. When I got to the tracks a lady had slid off the crossing in a little car and was high centered on active tracks. I used my snatch strap and 4wd and was able to pull the car off. Luckily she didn't tear anything up when she slid off.
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I've always been told it's not good for your gears when you pull in reverse. I supposed it's due to way the gears make contact - more surface contact between the ring and pinion when going forward, less when the opposite direction. Reverse may result in the ring flexing excessively and damaging tooth.
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I've always been told it's not good for your gears when you pull in reverse. I supposed it's due to way the gears make contact - more surface contact between the ring and pinion when going forward, less when the opposite direction. Reverse may result in the ring flexing excessively and damaging tooth.
Yup, that's what I was thinking but didn't know exactly the reason why. I do remember reading in the past that pulling in reverse it a very bad idea for your tranny.
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Yup, that's what I was thinking but didn't know exactly the reason why. I do remember reading in the past that pulling in reverse it a very bad idea for your tranny.
Depends on whether it is a low or high pinion front. Low pinion front is being driven on the coast side which is good in reverse, bad going forward. Opposite is true for High Pinion.

The only really bad thing about pulling in reverse is when you encounter high traction situations like pulling someone with your winch, stall the winch and then decide to back up to get some more movement. That will highly load the front axle and break stock axles and u-joints faster than you can spit.
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Depends on whether it is a low or high pinion front. Low pinion front is being driven on the coast side which is good in reverse, bad going forward. Opposite is true for High Pinion.

The only really bad thing about pulling in reverse is when you encounter high traction situations like pulling someone with your winch, stall the winch and then decide to back up to get some more movement. That will highly load the front axle and break stock axles and u-joints faster than you can spit.
What about the way the gears are "ramped' on the ring gear? I ask because a shop my buddy works out,a customer did a reverse burnout(dumb) and stripped the gears du to the way the gears are ramped.Id imagine the same can happen when pulling in rev,no??
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What about the way the gears are "ramped' on the ring gear? I ask because a shop my buddy works out,a customer did a reverse burnout(dumb) and stripped the gears du to the way the gears are ramped.Id imagine the same can happen when pulling in rev,no??
The "ramp" side changes between high and low pinion. In a low pinion front application, the angled side of the gear tooth is being used to turn the axle going forward.

In a high pinion front, the straight side of the gear tooth is being used to turn the axle going forward. Opposite is true for both in a rear application.
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In the I "can't believe it worked" category - I had a dumpster load of firewood logs delivered. The truck got stuck in the soft dirt/mud while dumping the wood. It wouldn't budge, and we tried all the usual stuff (boards under wheels, rocking, etc.) After wasting time trying all this stuff I decided to try pulling with my Jeep. We hooked up with a nylon tow strap to the front tow hooks. I prefer pulling in reverse when possible so I can see what I'm doing. I put her in 4L and started pulling. No luck, as I was also on grass over soft dirt and was just spinning the tires. I then tried snatching with a running start. It didn't work the first several tries, but then the truck driver and I got the snatching coordinated with rocking the truck and viola, out it came. The only downside is I didn't get pictures.

A couple of the neighbors had seen what was happening and stopped me later on to tell me they wanted a Jeep. I told them to go for it!
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A couple of comments about my pull: First off I didn't have a recovery strap. Believe me, I am well aware of the dangers of nylon breaking. I had the right stuff around but couldn't put my hands on it. SO, with that in mind my hook-up had the nylon wrapped around the pulling points. The hooks weren't under a lot of stress. Also, and to address the possible issues with both throwing a hook through my windshield and stressing the gears, I didn't just drop it in gear and keep pulling and pulling until I felt something give. As I said I was on grass so I had an automatic traction limiter. I never built up much of a load on the drivetrain, at least not like if I'd been on pavement. Also, when snatching on the truck with a running start I immediately let off the gas when the strap tightened, thus letting the weight of my Jeep do the snatching instead of the drivetrain.

I hope I eased the minds of those who commented. I'm glad you all are still reading this older post and took the time to offer the comments. I admit to not being fully prepared with the exact right equipment, but hey, sometimes you have to just go ahead with what you have to get the job done. Also, I had often thought about the pros and cons of pulling in forward or reverse. Over the years I've done both with no problems. Even in my younger days I've always used common sense and care for my vehicles when putting them under the stress of pulling. With that said there appears to be no bottom line on which direction you should pull, forward or reverse. This is an interesting question and deserves a post of its own!
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I agree.... you use what you have at the time to accomplish the task.

We pulled into a camping area awhile back in our 38' class A diesel RV and sunk up over the axles (front and rear) in the soft sand.

The 'correct' way may have been to call in a specialized tow truck and hand over the next months worth of paychecks.... but instead we hooked up a couple of Jeeps and pulled it right out.


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